The commercial consequences of Sunday’s Ramsdens’ Cup Final result didn’t occur to me until Celtic released season ticket news yesterday. Over the years, when possible, Celtic and Rangers released season ticket renewal notices on the back of a favourable result.
As well as a party at Ibrox on Sunday night, the wheels would have been ready to roll with photographs of newly acquired silverware and a plea from the most expensive failed-yet-retained manager in history to renew early. There may even have been a price increase this year, slipped in amid the feel-good factor.
There has been a lot of talk about how critical season ticket sales are to Newco Rangers but we are no different. The circa 40,000 people who commit to support Celtic each season are the rock bed upon which all plans are made. Sure, Champions League money is critical, but without this volume of season ticket sales there would be no Champions League money. The season ticket is the Badge of Honour in Scottish football, during these critical years more than any other time.
In 2012 when we campaigned to deny a new club access to an elevated position in Scottish football we did so in the knowledge that competition in the league would be different going forward. This was our preference. While actual attendances have often been below season ticket levels I know that to a man, woman and child, everyone who pitches up to watch Celtic appreciates being apart from the scourge which afflicted us for so many years. This is the way I like my football, long may it last.
Seville – The Celtic Movement
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Richie – Glad you liked it.
My favourite was Merson saying
“It’s not a red or yellow card. He’s been given a black card. He must have been sentenced to death or something. That’s a bit harsh!”
Richie – aye. This is much more serious than Windows going unsupported. It potentially affects any “https://” url
Rioskorrie
I heard briefly on the news at the weekend about a Scottish oil worker from Montrose being shot dead in Brazil/Brasil.
Had you heard anything about that?
PETETHEBEAT
Saved for later. I noticed it when you posted it,ffs,even I struggle to figure out the scoring.
Sober.
Imagine asking what’s the score?
Feck knows,got an abacus?
mullet and co 2 13:50
Paul 67, got to disagree with your take on the Griffiths saga. We should not be dictated to by the Daily Record that is correct.
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The Daily Record is completely irrelevant and basically a red herring. I imagine the reference to it was used to try to get us to unite behind a “common enemy”.
It would be equally wrong to NOT do something just because the DR had said we should do it. The club should (and I am sure will) look at the issue independent of external voices.
Ernie,
Unlike your Marxist friends, the SNP have not murdered priests and other Catholics. Nor have they sent Catholics to asylums for having the audacity to believe in God. Nor have they closed down churches.
Scullybhoy
Apologies. Too lazy to read back and look what happens.
RWE
Ole Dougie Fraser pulled a right few punches in that piece. It’s written more for those who know than those who don’t. For those who don’t, it comes across as a rather ordinary story of the sort of thing that happens every day. the contrary is true. The scale of this business failure has few comparisons. It’s quite the corporate disaster.
The emphasis of matter statement in the accounts could accurately read: “There is no material uncertainty. The group will cease to trade as a going concern in ordinary course.”
Hard on the heels of Rangers going down with £100M creditor losses, MIH is going down leaving c£500M outstanding, almost all of it owed to part-nationalised LBG, the remainder to the company’s pensioners.
The Murray family have a great deal to thank the UK tax payer for, our benevolence primarily.
Well said Paul, we can’t shout to get them kicked out and then complain that season books aren’t worth buying cos they’re not in the league anymore. I want to watch Celtic, and my ticket is to watch Celtic, and that does me fine.
John O’Neil
14:31 on 8 April, 2014
I take it you’re not able to tell us why the SNP have never had a Catholic cabinet minister?
Do you think perhaps that the English are to blame?
http://t.answers.com/answers/#!/entry/can-you-have-a-roman-catholic-prime-minister-of-great,4fb6cfd74b672622b8f362d3/1
tonydonnelly67
14:43 on 8 April, 2014
Or you could just check Hansard.
The irony is that it was Roseanna Cunningham who got the definitive statement on the matter in response to a question in Parliament.
Doesn’t of course stop the nats repeatedly trotting out their pigheaded nonsense.
I see some old Proddy/Unionist trying to stir up some poo re. GAA shirts worn by students!
http://bit.ly/PKUBMD
petethebeat
14:20 on 8 April, 2014
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Brillant, thanks for that
arranmore
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Think more people are probably fed up with the police/steward haressment than missing the huns.
Also celtics lack of standing up for the fans doesnt help things.
Id give anything to get to a game these days but cant criticize people who stay away due to the above.
And lets not forget re re scheldued games causing alot of fans to miss out but also putting fans off booking in first place.
So are we saying that the situation where it’s constitutionally awkward for a RC to become PM is a reason to the The Union?
Or is that a good reason to break away and put a new form of politics in place?
weeminger
Or to stay and put a new form of politics in place.
Anybody got any views on likely scores for the CL games?
Other than Champions League games who are likeliest opposition to have Celtic Park packed to capacity next season
Celtic would do well to devote a section of the stadium to pay at the gate.
I don’t see an appetite to part with large sums of cash where the highlights of your league season are likely to be the visits ofAberdeen and Dundee Utd
mickbhoy1888
15:06 on 8 April, 2014
Doooooooohhhh……
MICKYBHOY1888
I see your point,but IMO,a large part of the day is looking forward to a guid day wi like-minded people,a few drinks before and after.
As such,the price of the ticket isn’t so important,and neither tbh is the opposition.
It’s all about enjoying the occasion.
cadizzy 14:29
Aye, happened last Wednesday. Quite sad and a genuine case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I didn’t know the guy myself, but a few of us here did.
Report here:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/10746455/British-oil-worker-shot-dead-in-Brazil-carjacking.html
TBB
Understated yet scathing piece – factual, sarcastic and dissembled.
“We’re told the discussions between the new family firm and the firm controlled by the family were protracted.”
Hilarious sentence and very clever.
BMCUW
That may be true in some cases however with more and more people now not working to a traditional working week a lot of supporters who do invest in a season ticket are unable to devote a whole day to enjoy the matchday experience you describe
scullybhoy Sting in the tail all right.
Oh and Douglas Fraser was talking him up until last year, telling us MIH were doing fine.
He is just over a quarter of a century behind Alf Young in noticing Murray’s house of cards. But Young spoke of it and Murray tried to get him sacked from the Herald and never spoke to him again.
Did any of the Scots MSM come to the aid of Alf? No danger all too busy taking succulent lamb with Dave.
Even now they don’t come right out with it. I think its down to this: http://www.pglrpss.co.uk/masonicetiquette.pdf
You must come to the aid of a brother in distress.
Murray demanded my sacking for telling the truth about MIH in 1988!
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2012/02/20/scottish-journalist-alf-young-reveals-former-rangers-chairman-sir-david-murray
MICKYBHOY1888
I totally agree with that. It’s difficult for someone to spend a tenner on transport and another twenty on the ticket,on average,then hell knows how much on the rest of the day if the wife and kids go without.
Equally,that is why our ST sales are falling in the first place. Everyone has priorities,and family have to come first.
Bournesouperecipe.
Didn’t the last super coach of thems get FIRED.
BIG NAN
One of my mates told me about that,and I could hardly believe it.
Till I thought about it.
RWE
Yip, some nice lines, although it ought to have been pointed out that Murray has less than 5% of the MIH equity, having been diluted to dishwater by the repeated debt-equity swaps the bank used.
The final tote will show north of £650M losses to shareholders, most of which swallowed by the bank.
It was all a charade.
Rioskorrrie
thanks for the reply. Terrible tragedy.
onny the Tim
14:55 on
8 April, 2014
I see some old Proddy/Unionist trying to stir up some poo re. GAA shirts worn by students!
http://bit.ly/PKUBMD
Funny that, as us Nationalist’s just love a good fleg protest.
“Rangers, with Murray, is a one-party state and the man in power has an allergy to any form of personal criticism. But he’s not a businessman in the long-term sense of planning and prudence, he’s more of an impresario.”
Hugh Adam for Rangers Director
mer
Although you wouldn’t expect much else from Jim Alister as he is the same man that said the Pope wouldn’t be welcome in Belfast & if Catholics wished to see him, then they should go down south.
Sad little man who’s living in the 19th century.
Hugh Adam wasn’t wrong, nor was Alf Young but you can’t say that the Emperor is naked in Scotland. Even if it is plain to see that he is.
Enter the bankers, Gavin Masterton, Fred Goodwin, Angus Grossart are there to tell everyone that David is fully dressed and looking good.
While Douglas Fraser and the rest of the financial gurus and journalists sit and praise Sir David, while accepting crumbs from his table.
Sports journalists were worse. They kept schtum or praised him for an insided story of a major signing jetting in on the private plane or an exclusive on the latest plans for a super-casino or hotel complex with retractable pitch at Ibrox.
You know the sort of thing they won’t believe now with the brothers Grimm was lapped up by David, Craig (briefly) and Chaals, for a bit.
BMCUW
A member of my own family has already stated he is not renewing his season ticket and it will be away games only
Me….. I would probably have binned my season ticket as well if it hadn’t been for yesterday’s announcement pegging the prices and hopefully participation in the group stages
Although I have a season ticket I missed a few games this season and it wasn’t down to finance or weather. You couldn’t give away a free season tickets on occasions this season
If finance was no object I would gladly pick travelling to the Camp Nou or Allianz stadium every weekend over watching the St Johnstones Motherwells and Inverness Caley Thistles displaying their silky skills at Celtic Park
Re Catholic PM…
Not long ago the three leaders of the main British political parties were Catholic or neo-Catholic. An amazing situation given the political/religious history of the country.
Ian Duncan Smith, Conservative
Charles Kennedy, Liberal Democrat
Tony Blair, New Labour
It is not remotely plausible that IDS or CK would have been prevented from being PM due to their faith.
Minty has been skint for several years now.
Or is he?
HH!!