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It’s refreshing to hear a manager be frank about a sporting forgone conclusion, as Ronny did yesterday, “we are definitely going to win the league”. More importantly, he added “The goal is the treble”.
For reasons which have never been evident, apart from Jock Stein’s first five seasons, and a gloriously sunny day in 1957, Celtic have underachieved on a massive scale in the League Cup, a trophy we haven’t won in the last five seasons.
It’s maybe been seen as too much of a poor-relation when the team have higher targets in mind, but it’s more accurate to say we have been an ill-prepared soft touch since Jock’s five-in-a-row came to an end. Superior performances in the Scottish Cup suggest there is more than the randomness of cup football at play in the League trophy.
I never understood the criticisms of Neil Lennon for his ‘failure’ to win the treble. We achieved this feat only three times in our history. Even when we won the league, the vast majority of times we failed to win both cups was as a result of defeat to someone other than Rangers, so their liquidation in 2012 should not affect the trend.
Ronny is three games away from his first trophy as a Celtic manager; he will be hot favourite for each of them. On paper, the Scottish Cup will present no more danger, but winning two cups takes a level of consistency that even the great [and consistent]Celtic teams struggled to achieve.
Before we consider the treble we need to find consistency in the league and Europa League, starting with wins and clean sheets against St Mirren and Dinamo Zagreb. If we can do this, this could yet be a memorable season.
Remember the survey closes tonight!
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ElDiegoBhoy
17:57 on
26 September, 2014
TT
I remember Gilroy and Big Jake. Have I missed anyone?
*Big Jake was the “other” PE teacher I mentioned……Jacky Gallagher was a great Celtic mhan tae…..Jaffa had a season at Celtic Park.
I watched John Divers play in the early sixties.
His ability to come out of a ruck of tackles with the ball was amazing.
When I found out when talking to John Hughes at the Wimbledon CSC event in June, that John Divers had the problems with his legs as described in the Herald article, that ability moves up a peg from amazing to miraculous.
I have a distant me memory of him scoring a hat trick in a 4-3 Scottish Cup tie victory at Tynecastle when Celtic came from behind, but whilst I’m sure of the game I’m not sure of the facts but I do know John Divers played a significant part.
Going back to the conversation with Big Yogi what was very obvious was the love and affection the Bear had for John Divers that lasted 58 years and I know the Bear will be hurting along with John Divers family.
I’m glad I saw both of them play.
jobo baldie
16:20 on 26 September, 2014
I hope you don’t take an interest on swimming that’s on the telly
So but a ticket for the Hamilton game and get another free, when you produce your st at the ticket office will they give me a free ticket?
Wouldn’t have thought so csc
Davidopoulos
15:57 on 26 September, 2014
Lou Macari as manager btw – I’m just a whipper snapper in comparison to you lot ;)
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Lou Macari would have stopped the huns daein 9 in a row. imho
Tommy Burns(RIP) wisny devious enough. imho
HH
CQN Coupon picks for Saturday 27th September:
Pog – Crystal Palace
GL2 – Aberdeen
BT – Swansea
TTT – Bristol Rovers
LB – Nottingham Forest
AWATR – Arsenal
Jobo – Dundee Utd.
PF – Middlesbrough
Good luck to one and all.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
roy croppie
Thanks for sharing the Michael Tierney article about John Divers.
Lovely stuff and beautifully written too.
nctim if you’re on, still didn’t get your email but got the story :o)
HH
Kevin
Macari was a big disappointment to me -I thought he would have brought up some decent experienced pros who would do a job for us
Perhaps the old board wouldn’t spend the money but it was really poor fare on offer!
HH
Anybody tell me what’s happening on weekend of 15th November w.r.t. Celtic – is it an international weekend?
Very enjoybale read about the late John Divers. He sounds like the type of guy, going by the comments of former pupils, you would enjoy having as a teacher.
Cracking stories of him as a player.
Bawsman, small world. I was down in St Annes between 1996 & 1997. Marvellous place.
Was the Paul you mentioned, Paul ‘podger’ McGrane & the Jim, Jim McGahon?
I worked in the same building as Paul. I got to know him in the early eighties as we had a few mutual acquaintances plus he and his brother, Sean, were members of the Lisbon Lions CSC, the supporters bus I used to go on. Paul’s a great laugh.
It was terrible Shug McWilliams passing away so young. I went to his funeral at St Michael’s. Shug was unique and the biggest Celtic fan I have ever met. Great guy.
We were playing midweek against Dunfermline and Shug travelled up and the game was postponed while he was en route.
When it was rearranged, he travelled up again and the game was called off late this time. The following day when he came back, no word of complaint from him other his disappointment at not getting to the hoops play.
croppybhoy
18:21 on 26 September, 2014
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At the time of Macari’s stint in the dug-out…we sold
top scorer Gerry Creaney for – £600k and gave LM
£100k to replace him?!?
The fans were – to be honest – dragging their erses
re: organizing a bhoycott to get rid of the old ‘bored’
so, for me, LM’s signing of Wayne Biggins should
have been a red-rag to the fans to get their erses into
gear and get bhoycotting. imho
HH
Auldheid @ 18:02…
Like you I saw John Divers play in the early sixties.
We pronounced the name Divers (as in Davie Wilson, Jurgen Klinsman etc) but Mr Murphy (one of my teachers at Holyrood) who read the teams out at Celtic Park, always pronouned the Di as in divot.
I was at that 4-3 Scottish Cup tie at Tynecastle to which you referred and John scored twice putting Celtic 1 up and then equalising to make 2-2. Willie Wallace played for Hearts that day.
Dear me, it was in February 1962!
A miracle happened that day too.
With the game tied at 3-3, Celtic were awarded a penalty at the Gorgie Road end with 4 minutes left.
Paddy (Crerand) stepped up and (father)Gordon Marshall saved it. However, the sharp eyed referee spotted the goalkeeper’s movement prior to the kick and awarded a re-take.
Paddy duly dispathed his second attempt and we were through to the quarter finals.
The name of the referee?
Mr R H Davidson (Airdrie)!
My earliest memories of watching the Celtic always fondly include John, with his languid style, wearing any number from 7 to 11 on his shorts (it was the way in those days) and hooped socks (a proper Celtic strip).
102 goals in 232 appearances makes him a proper Celtic hero.
Anyway…….5 years before an increase
in the minimum wage can be afforded…
…..5 minutes to decide to blow billions on
bombing Iraq ?!?!?!
To all those who voted NO – GIRFUY
Bye.
Blantyre further to your post at 10.31 in the last thread re guys you worked with who moved to Lytham St Annes.
The Ross you mentioned, was his surname McKenna?
DD
It is.
His wife Pauline (Rip) died far too young. I played football with her young brother Stephen. He went on to play for Aberdeen..
Tontine Tim
Great post and thanks for sharing.
When I was younger I didn’t know any better and used to pronounce his name as ……Johnny Dyevers
Wished I had met him.
John Divers CSC
Appreciate the advice fellas.
Hail Hail CQNers
Gordon 18:35
I too was at that 4-3 victory at Tynecastle and I was right behind the goal where Paddy Crerand scored the re-taken penalty.
I’m pretty sure that we played Hearts in a league game at Parkhead the following midweek and they played in a flash candy striped shirt. Looked really nice (?) We whupped them again…..I think.
Great days. I was young then!!!!
Hail Hail
Blantyre,thanks.
Our paths only crossed briefly, he was where I work for a short time and then St Annes, when we both were there on detached duty but he worked in a different part of the site.
I occasionally bumped into him when any of our midweek games were on sky. We watched them in the Our Lady Star of the Sea church hall.
I don’t think Ross recovered from his wife’s passing away and he left the civil service around ten years ago, if not longer.
The hall had pictures of the pope and the queen as you went into the bar area. Something you would never see here.
Hail Hail
Oops……….just checked Celtic Wiki. No surprise but my memory failed me.
We did indeed play Hearts again the following midweek and Johnny Divers put the Celts 1-0 up in 4 minutes but the game ended 2-2.
Also no mention in report of flash candy striped shirts. That’s probably a figment as well!!!
Hail Hail
In last night’s tv drama ‘Marvellous’ hoops legend Lou Macari came over quite well.
Tomtheleedstim -NY is great, but very expensive!
Also the ‘tipping’ culture can get a bit wearing…
Tomtheleedstim, do the helicopter over Manhattan if possible.
It’s a tremedous experience and will be expensive but well worth it.
DD
I used to play fives with Ross and Frank who bawsman mentioned.
Still see 1 or 2 of the guys I worked with from 84 till 04…
Dontbrattbakinanger,
the tipping thing really got on my tips, the only downside of visiting New York city.
Good Evening Timland
Quiet on here tonight. is everyone in Blackpool fur the
September weekend (remember those days)..caught the end
of the golf, great sporting drama…….anyways Kevj I voted no,
are we still pal’s?
dontbomdanyoneCSC.
And the suggested tip is 10- 15%; you wonder if the locals tip at that rate, or just the ole tourists.
jobo baldie
16:20 on 26 September, 2014
When I watch Celtic on TV I’m always resplendent in some sort of Celtic jersey.
When I watch golf on TV I’m always resplendent in some sort of Golf polo top.
I need to grow up at some point.
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1million%FatherDougalMcguireCSC!
Love it!
;-)
HH jamesgang
DBBIA – “Also the ‘tipping’ culture can get a bit wearing”
Only if you care what they think!!!
Dallas, Dallas….. I’ve heard you can get that from JFK to Manhattan and it sounds like a nice surprise. Might check it out.
I’ve been waiting to see this town for a long time.
Lymmbhoy –
Special thanks to your good self for pointing me in the direction of Molly Malone’s in Liverpool.
They had Celtic v Hearts on giant screen plus 5 TVs. Watched with my missus and about 20 Tims.
Going to Anfield tomorrow for the big derby. Got hospitality from 10am.
Thanks again Lymmbhoy.
Hail Hail.
Blantyre, I can’t remember meeting a Frank during my year in St Annes but the site was so large, it was difficult to get to meet some colleagues there.
Did he have black hair, as Ross came into the church hall the night we beat the defunct club 2 nil in the cup, with a chap I didn’t recognise.
Ross was well chuffed as he had a tenner on Celtic to win 2 nil with Di Canio to score at 15/1.
Its good to keep in touch with old colleagues. Hopefully they don’t give you a hard time for being on the ‘other side’ now. Lol
tomtheleedstim
New York is a fantastic experience,do the bus tours, upper and
lower Manhattan,book them on line before you go that why you will
get the best deals.
DD
Could have been Frank.My former colleagues now ask me questions…o))
Tomtheleedstim, I was there over twenty years ago and the helicopter excursions were from a heliport at the end of east 42nd or east 49th street in Manhattan.
Don’t get a hangover, looking up at all those sjyscrapers made mine worse along with 94 degree heat.
The portions of nosh are huge. The steak sandwiches were magic.
Taxi drivers do take the pee saying they are lost. North of Washington Square at Greenwich Village, every street is numbered and every alternate avenue is numbered.
The streets run east to west & the avenues north to south.
I hope it lives up to expectations.
Tomtheleedstim – my daughter is now working in York, and Sweetheart’s daughter is starting work in Leeds soon, so chances are I’ ll be down in Yorkshire regularly, maybe we could catch up ?
Heading down to deepest darkest Moffat internet is patchy.
Hail hail.
Great article about John Divers.
Get onto CQN and complete your education!
Some chat about RD’s penchant for the old pressing game and an almost implicit acceptance that it will leave us vulnerable to a) being overrun in midfield and b) being left light at the back……
Surely not if…….a) you a brain and some semblance of peripheral vision so you don’t overcommit numbers and b) bl00dy well run back and cover if the bad guys play the ball upfield!!!
Simples? Yes, no, maybe so?
HH jamesgang
Mickybhoy @1727
It’s the same as what happens at champions league group stage games.