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I am not a great believer in conspiracy theories because conspiracies are very difficult to maintain.  If two or three people know about what you are up to, you have a chance of keeping a lid on it, if the number rises to 20 or 30, your conspiracy will eventually be outed.

This is why Newco staff and players attending a party on Saturday night were exposed and why other partygoers from the same club were caught earlier in the season.  It is also why Newco were caught in July, when they played a friendly against Dundee United despite their test results (all negative) not being available until after the game.

Football is afforded discretionary status to continue to operate without normal social distancing requirements on condition rigorous testing is maintained.  This has had consequences for Celtic, who lost a significant portion of their squads in October and January when players had been in the vicinity of positive team-mates (international and domestic).

So if Newco have a lax attitude to testing, can we extrapolate that they would subvert competitions by pretending that in October a positive player who had contact with dozens of other Newco players did not happen?  Throughout their 8 year history, they have always respected the rules and spirit of the game, so it is unlikely.

If they did, the facts will out when players move on.  Several are already out on loan, more will leave soon.

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  1. If I knew what cult rules were I’d have a go at responding.

     

    As far as I am aware I’ve never been in a cult but maybe if I was I wouldn’t know.

     

    Its a hard one, so in the meantime I’ll await one of the fine upstanding gentlemen on here to explain where I’ve been going wrong.

     

     

    For now I have way more important things to do than entertain bored yoons on line.

  2. AN TEARMANN…

     

     

    The governmental parallels with the nazi and peel,trevelyan et al are there.

     

     

    100% correct. Thank you.

     

     

    For the most part I ignore Madmitch – but when he spouts racist trash like calling Ireland a ‘potato republic’ I simply can’t scroll by.

     

     

    /p

  3. P8 @ 6.03

     

     

    Correct — You are too posh to be a Tartan Tory.

     

    Too much volume — you want to be something special — uber Trot / Micro Marxist.

     

    Oh well — I will leave it there — no use offering volume to an attention seeker.

  4. Disappointing that this “make sure the Catholics don’t win 10 in a row.” post past without comment , imo the hun trolls first objective is to portray two clubs as ying and yang and that lie should allways be challenged , maybe not the posters intention but still poor imo .

  5. Tiny Trumper agrees with Uber Trot / Micro marxist.

     

    CQN — Dating agency for the loud and the stupid.

  6. Timmy 7

     

     

    “For now I have way more important things to do than entertain bored yoons on line.”

     

     

    Unconvincing defence since you trooubled yourself to reply, in error, to my joke post.

     

     

    Can I assume that you have NO views on why Nicola is acting this way but you will come in to defend her every time you feel she is being atttacked?

     

     

    Everyone’saUnionistit’sjusttheboundariesoftheunionthatdiffer CSC

  7. MADMITCH…

     

     

    Really poor quality stuff.

     

     

    Why? What’s poor about it? Quote me. Rebut my points. I’ll wait.

     

     

    I was expecting better from you.

     

     

    Let’s be clear here – I note your attempt at being patronising – but I care not a single jot what your opinion of me is.

     

     

    However an improvement on earlier where you would seem to be trying to embarrass me with some sort of cutting / comedy analysis of an earlier post to someone else.

     

     

    Why would I ‘try’ and embarrass you? You’re doing a much better job at that than I ever could. Keep digging.

     

     

    Really poor show on your part.

     

     

    What part? The part where I called out your racist remark? Or the part where I addresser post pretty much line by line rebutting your trolling?

     

     

    I fear your inner keyboard warrior is coming to the fore.

     

     

    I’m angry, but there’s only one of us dismissing stuff and making racist comments. Given your rich insight into society and its ills I’d have thought it would be clear to you that saying racist stuff, especially to someone from an immigrant family would make them angry.

     

     

    To be clear again, because I’ll keep repeating it – my issue today with you is your use of the racist epithet ‘potato republic’ to describe Ireland. And your attempts afterward to hide from it/excuse it.

     

     

    However something to keep you occupied …

     

    British state policy to Ireland 1845 ‘ish.

     

    Another number to add to the list 1832 — and 1841.

     

     

    The history of Ireland has nothing to do with our argument just.

     

     

    Let me repeat – we are *not* having a historical debate or disagreement here. The issue is:

     

     

    Your use of the racist phrase ‘POTATO REPUBLIC’ to describe Ireland.

     

     

    That’s all. No history debate, no disagreement on British policy. Stop trying to deflect. You used the phrase.

     

     

    Might be a good place to start — ask yer ma for some help.

     

     

    Obvious troll is obvious.

     

     

    As a 17 year old playing football a grizzled veteran asked me ‘You got any nudes of yer maw’…. me thinking I was smart replied ‘Don’t be stupid’. His response was ‘Do you want some?’. I got sent off. Lesson learned. 2/10, must try harder.

     

     

    Just a hunch but the moons start to align.

     

     

    That’ll explain the howling coming from your house presumably.

     

     

    /p

  8. MADMITCH…

     

     

    Correct — You are too posh to be a Tartan Tory.

     

     

    You’re doing it again Madmitch – Imagining what I am and running with it. You’re wrong! It’s actually hilarious the way you’re shouting at clouds and hoping something, anything lands. You’re so hopelessly out of tune.

     

     

    Your strategy is failing – here’s an idea, embrace fact and lost the god complex. Whilst your at it, stop with the racism too. Then maybe I’ll go back to ignoring you.

     

     

    Too much volume — you want to be something special — uber Trot / Micro Marxist.

     

     

    All I want to be just now is the guy shining the light on the racist.

     

     

    It was you who described Ireland using the racist term ‘Potato republic’. And I’m going to keep on keeping on as far as you’re concerned. Unless there’s a withdrawal on your part and apology for using racist terminology.

     

     

    Oh well — I will leave it there — no use offering volume to an attention seeker.

     

     

    See – here’s the problem Mitch. You don’t have a ‘block’ button any more than I do. And I’m keeping coming after you. ‘Blow that out yer erse’ you racist.

     

     

    /p

  9. I can’t help thinking that in the context of Sottish independence we might be better considering the Dunning- Kruger effect rather than the Pygmalion effect.

     

     

    Seems to me it would be more relevant.

  10. ERNIE LYNCH

     

     

    I can’t help thinking that in the context of Sottish independence we might be better considering the Dunning- Kruger effect rather than the Pygmalion effect.

     

     

    If we apply that to both sides then it becomes a moot point. In the context of these debates, I don’t think demonising the other side, or belittling it will win any debate. It’ll just serve to make people double down. I don’t think driving people toward being fundamentalist is heathy.

     

     

    It’s fair to say you and I disagree on independence, but I don’t think you’re stupid. And I think we’ll be be needed to help drive Scotland forward on whatever course we take.

     

     

    For me it’s simple – the right of people to self determination, same as in Ireland. The inalienable right of people to have their voice heard and to be represented. I see no way for that to happen at Westminster. Equally, I am not a fan of the current SNP politics. (Or Scottish Labour. (We’ll take the Tories as ‘I’d rather die than vote for them’). Equally, I understand there are opposing views that are no less important than mine.

     

     

    Seems to me it would be more relevant.

     

     

    Possibly at the const of being utterly self defeating.

     

     

    /p

  11. P8 @ 6.47

     

     

    You are coming after me ….

     

     

    What language is this you muppet?

     

    Some sort of keyboard vendetta?

     

     

    Cut the crap — you are making a fool of yourself.

  12. EUROCHAMPS67 on 16TH FEBRUARY 2021 12:16 PM

     

    Their own testing system.

     

     

     

     

    No Covid scares.

     

     

     

     

    Their own “investigations “.

     

     

     

     

    No audited accounts.

     

     

     

     

    Trading insolvent.

     

     

     

     

    No apologies for historical abuse cases.

     

     

     

     

    Survival myth.

     

     

     

     

    Same club myth.

     

     

     

     

    Relegated to four tier myth.

     

     

     

     

    Going for 55 myth.

     

     

     

     

    Most penalties for, no penalties against.

     

     

     

     

    Most ordering offs for opponents, none for them.

     

     

     

     

    And on and on.

     

     

     

     

    Not a word said by SFA, SPFL, Scottish Government, Police Scotland , Celtic PLC board.

  13. Madmitch

     

     

    Can you explain your ‘hang up’ or issue with St Als ?

     

     

    You suggested a poster went there as if it was a really bad thing. you suggested our new CEO recruitment was lazy as if there was some kind of old boys network at play…..yet no other ex St Als person has even been a director of the club in 20 years…and none as CEO. Neither DD or the other leading shareholder’s kids went there.

     

     

    Granted Willie Maley went there for daily mass most days.

     

     

    You seem to have a misplaced obsession about what I thought was a decent results driven catholic educational establishment which some folk were lucky enough to go to.

  14. BGFC

     

     

    Haven’t forgotten I owe a reply re my views about vaccines and why I have no intention of engaging. I have been incredibly busy the past few days.

  15. B78 @ 7.00

     

     

    Generalised dislike of private schools made local.

     

    Quite a little network when you scratch the surface of the free pie seats.

     

    Bit like Oxbridge down south.

  16. P8DDY on 16TH FEBRUARY 2021 6:51 PM

     

     

     

    ‘If we apply that to both sides then it becomes a moot point’

     

     

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    Hardly relevant though when you are comparing the reality (the here and now) with some putative, Big Rock Candy Mountain version of an independent Scotland.

     

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    ‘the right of people to self determination, same as in Ireland.’

     

     

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    Well the right to self determination is available. Last time it was exercised we (the Scottish people) determined to remain as members of the UK. Only 38% of those eligible to vote wanted to leave the UK.

  17. MADMITCH…

     

     

    You are coming after me ….

     

     

    In order to make it less dramatic, lets put it in context, shall we? Just to address your attempted mischaracterisation.

     

     

    I’m coming after you for using the racist term ‘Potato republic’ to describe Ireland. That was your doing. And I also stated that if you choose to apologise for it, or withdraw it, the matter will be done with. until that time, I’m not letting your racism pass. You might want to move on, but withdraw your racist garbage and it’ll facilitate it. Simple.

     

     

    What language is this you muppet?

     

     

    You’re sounding rattled Mitch. What the matter? Don’t like being taken to task for the garbage you write on here? Did you think racism would be met with a nonchalant shrug and and a ‘It’s Madmitch, he’s just drunk, let him sleep it off’?

     

     

    Some sort of keyboard vendetta?

     

     

    No. Not a ‘keyboard’ vendetta, whatever that is. To be blunt – I don’t like you. I don’t like racists, and I’m not letting it pass. You might think you’re troll king on here, but you’re not. You’re just some guy, and racism isn’t going to be tolerated, not by you, not by anyone.

     

     

    Cut the crap — you are making a fool of yourself.

     

     

    Only one of us used the term ‘Potato republic’ to describe Ireland. It’s racist. You’re the one making a fool out of yourself by trying to deflect from it.

     

     

    You missed my Christy Moore reference btw. Shame, I’ll never figure out how you stay on CQN after 14 pints of stout. ;)

     

     

    /p

  18. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56089329

     

     

    This is another case pursued by the Scottish Police and CPS which has been found to have had no merit.

     

     

    Another man arrested and prosecuted without cause.

     

     

    So far malicious prosecution has not been established but that could be the final outcome.

     

     

    More cost and serious reputational damage to Scotland’s legal system.

     

     

    On several occasions I have urged people to contact their MSP to request a public inquiry.

     

     

    Nobody has ever posted if they have or haven’t done so.

     

     

    Certainly it is everyone’s right to do something or do nothing about this situation but, am I wasting my time bringing this issue to CQN?

     

     

    If so, I will refrain from future posts on this topic.

  19. MADMITCH…

     

     

    P8 @ numpty central

     

     

    How very cutting of you. Funny how you become less edgy the more people engage with you. The repeat insults, the feigned outrage, calling people ‘muppets’ and ‘rockets’, but unable at any juncture to actually rebut points.

     

     

    You just keep shouting. And it gets less and less relevant.

     

     

    26 counties — 1922 to 1973 — Potato republic ?

     

     

    For anyone just tuning in – Madmitch used the phrase ‘Potato republic’ to describe Ireland. Mitch is now trying to obfuscate that point in an attempt to not look racist, but also not look weak by apologising.

     

     

    You referred to current day Ireland by the term ‘Potato republic’. Let’s have a deep dive – the Brit myth is that there was a potato famine. The huns indeed have a song ‘The famine is over, why don’t you home’. It’s also ‘trendy’ currently to shout ‘potato’ at Irish people. For example, Keith Lemon. Ireland is associated with ‘Potato’ and potatoes only through the prism of the potato famine myth. And Brits shouting it are being racist. Some might not realise it, but the only association Ireland has with potatoes is the famine myth.

     

     

    Madmitch – you might think it’s hilarious or edgy to refer to Ireland as the ‘potato republic’, but i don’t. Belittling the deaths of 1 million Irish men, women and children – a number of whom will have been distant or not so distant relatives of posters on here is beyond the pale.

     

     

    You should be booted from CQN. You should have been booted year ago, but for this you should be history.

     

     

    If you have a problem with any of that – quote me, rebut my point. Try doing so without using insults. As you’ll have noticed, I either infer or accuse you of being an alcoholic every time you offer an ad hominem insult directed at me. I’m not going to stop doing that. You’re in control of the terms of engagement, but until you apologise for the racist slur, I’m not letting it go.

     

     

    You Madmitch, are the sum of your prejudices – unspecified issues with ‘St Als’, with any politics you don’t agree with (accusing me from one post to another of being a ‘Tartan Tory’ and then a ‘Micro Marxist’ (hint, I’m not very micro about it) and now using intolerant, racist language like ‘Potato republic’. You’re a pathetic bigot.

     

     

    /p

     

     

    /p

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Discuss

  20. HRVATSKI JIM…

     

     

    I’ve emailed my MP about this very matter. There is something very suspect here.

     

     

    That said, my MP and the leader of GCC stopped engaging with me after first promising not to privatise Glasgow services and then doing just that with Glasgow IT function – which as a result is now 3 times more expensive than it was.

     

     

    The masterplan was forced through by Labour’s Frank McAveety *after* he knew Labour would be in the minority, but the SNP backtracked hugely on undertakings to unpick the deal.

     

     

    /p

  21. DAVID66…

     

     

    What is a “yoon”?

     

     

    Slang for unionist in the context of Scottish independence.

     

     

    Keep seeing it used and never heard of it.

     

     

    The phrase is a bit like the Peugeot RCZ – You’ve never heard of it, but after seeing a youtube clip you can’t help seeing loads of the on the road.

     

     

    /p

  22. HRVATSKI JIM on 16TH FEBRUARY 2021 7:25 PM

     

     

    I appreciate what you’re doing and need to give myself a kick up the arse!

  23. P8DDY

     

     

    thanks for your interest in this.

     

     

    Police and Justice are fully devolved matters to Hollyrood so the contract person should be your Member of the Scottish Parliament not your Westminster MP.

     

     

    At least I am not a voice in the wilderness.

  24. ERNIE LYNCH…

     

     

    Hardly relevant though when you are comparing the reality (the here and now) with some putative, Big Rock Candy Mountain version of an independent Scotland.

     

     

    Being objective, both sides accentuate the positives. Have you ever heard a fishmonger shouting ‘rotten fish’?

     

     

    I’m not an adherent to the ‘everything will be amazing’ school of thought for Scottish independence, but I do believe it would be better than the Westminster apocalypse. When Westminster imposes things like poll tax on Scotland (I’m old enough to not only remember, but not pay it) – It’s hard to frame Westminster as anything other than the enemy of Scotland. I think that drives at least some of the people espousing independence to offer a ‘best case’ scenario. I’m not that optimistic, but I’d hope at least it would be better, and offer more representation to smaller groups. We don’t have democracy in the UK. At best we live under an oligarchy of sorts – that will *never* sort itself out, so what are the alternatives? I realise that’s maybe a debate for another day, but I don’t think it’s realistic to accuse only one side of making that pasture seem greener.

     

     

    Well the right to self determination is available. Last time it was exercised we (the Scottish people) determined to remain as members of the UK. Only 38% of those eligible to vote wanted to leave the UK.

     

     

    The problem there is it was based on a lie, by and large – ‘If you want to stay in the EU vote remain’ and we were shafted. The Brexit vote was a cheat on an industrial scale. Breaking of purdah, of funding rules, telling outright lies… the last vote was a con. In the context of the UK that’s not a shock but it’s wrong.

     

     

    I appreciate the numbers, but these things are ephemeral. People change their minds, and seeing perma-austerity and the lunacy of Brexit I think we need to revisit options.

     

     

    The hardest part will not be independence, but will be how we might shape our society afterward. Like in Ireland, the winds are changing. But that’s a debate for another day!

     

     

    /p