I am not a great believer in conspiracy theories because conspiracies are very difficult to maintain. If two or three people know about what you are up to, you have a chance of keeping a lid on it, if the number rises to 20 or 30, your conspiracy will eventually be outed.
This is why Newco staff and players attending a party on Saturday night were exposed and why other partygoers from the same club were caught earlier in the season. It is also why Newco were caught in July, when they played a friendly against Dundee United despite their test results (all negative) not being available until after the game.
Football is afforded discretionary status to continue to operate without normal social distancing requirements on condition rigorous testing is maintained. This has had consequences for Celtic, who lost a significant portion of their squads in October and January when players had been in the vicinity of positive team-mates (international and domestic).
So if Newco have a lax attitude to testing, can we extrapolate that they would subvert competitions by pretending that in October a positive player who had contact with dozens of other Newco players did not happen? Throughout their 8 year history, they have always respected the rules and spirit of the game, so it is unlikely.
If they did, the facts will out when players move on. Several are already out on loan, more will leave soon.
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Hello, hell
Arguments, no matter how well founded seem to fly over the heads of the huns and their poodles. It is far too easy letting them switch from new club to 55 narrative.
What really gets to them is the simplicity of the poor bumped face painter.
That simple fact seems to really bug them and they struggle to give a coherent answer.
Justice for the face painter.
HH.
Fourstonecoppi
Thanks.
ST @ 9.12
Was the mythical £60K figure involved.
Bit of an urban myth but that number keeps coming up.
Fans measure success in different ways.
For some, 9iar has been adequate and they argue, even mock other posters who have an alternative view. ‘never seen your critique during 9iar!…….’you obviously know how to run a football club’ etc.
And that’s fine, its a blog and everyone is entitled to their opinion, as should be.
See for me, success isn’t measuered in winning 9iar within a one horse race in the 6-7 seasons prior and losing the title on 2nd season of credible (although financially doped) competitor.
Success for me would have been the growth of annual revenue to circa 140-150m by end of last decade. This would have been facilitated by club having a strategic plan/vision that aspires for club to be a regular competitor within last 16 CL participants or regular qualification to quarter/semi final in the EL.
It would have been about maximising player development through elite coaching to make ourselves more competitive in Europe. Then using transfer income to reinvest into higher calibre of player that would ultimately make Celtic more competitive in European football and thereby increasing club revenues to new heights. Domestic success would have been a near given in turn.
Success would have been to acknowledge our disadvantaged position within Scotland on domestic TV income and strive to find ways to narrow the competitive advantage of other clubs/nations. Invest on the coaching, analytical, scouting network and football operations structure to ensure we have maximise all possible advantages within our budget.
Nothing I have read or listened to this past decade encourages me that Celtic are striving to be the best they possible can be within their budget and limitations.
Again it comes down to how both the PLC and supporters measure success. The PLC defends itself vigoursly on this. I disagree, they have been both negligent and complacent in their duties to grow the business and maximise its potential this past decade.
Their appointment of NL in May 2019 was a symptom of this complacency. Lazy without doing admitted due diligence or aligning the manager appointment to any sort of communicated long term strategic vision or objectives of the club.
The supporters have been sold short by the PLC this past decade. The 9iar or quadruple treble achievements do not offer a defence for me. We are simply not run as well as we can or should be.
Fans have the right to objectively review the PLCs record and criticise accordingly.
Managers may have a say on signing players but in this day and age they are not making the final decisions. Signing a player on a pre- contact is not a sign the manager will be here next season, it’s normal practice.
Thankfully this season is coming to an end very soon and we can hopefully look forward to some positive changes throughout the club.
P.s people seem to get very annoyed when the club thank and show appreciation to former employees such as Peter L. Cant think of many organisations that would destroy employees to the wider public.
Anyone else wish the blog had a virtual sparring room where individuals could be sent to work out their grievances without everyone else having to watch it blow by blow?
BHOY FROM THE BOYNE
Very good post.
It’s the bigger picture and not about winning 9, 10 or 11 in a row
BFTB – thanks for the article, it was a good read.
BFTB @ 9.25
You don’t miss what you have never had.
We have had 18 years stagnation that has turned us into a selling club.
No pitchforks / no burning torches — just sullen acceptance that we have mucked it up
DENIABHOY on 17TH FEBRUARY 2021 9:28 AM
Anyone else wish the blog had a virtual sparring room where individuals could be sent to work out their grievances without everyone else having to watch it blow by blow?
Good idea. Microsoft teams have ‘Breakout rooms’, that might be a solution.
AIPPLE on 16TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:53 PM
And here’s one in return (and for anyone else interested in the real thinking behind Brexit)
https://alastaircampbell.org/2020/12/the-brexit-revolutionaries-have-barely-begun-britain-needs-to-wake-up-fast/
BHOY FROM THE BOYNE – good post.
No team has a God-given right to success, however the financial gulf that has existed between Celtic and the other domestic teams has been massive for most of the last decade. 100 million vs 10 million turnover type of gulf. A team stuffed full of highly paid international players with a similarly paid mngmt team and with 60,000 roaring them on should be expected to beat the opposition most weeks. Slip ups, off days, injuries etc can mean there are occasional upsets, but not many.
That does not come from a sense of entitlement, that comes from the fact that money is the biggest differentiator in world football. It is not a level playing field. Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen and the like can no longer even get close to buying the required quality of players to compete with us.
We have had no competition to speak of, to measure ourselves against for 10+ years. Only European football can provide that. And we come up short most of the time. Why? Because we are not run as well as we should be. We do not have the required big vision for the Club to be the best it can be.
Now newco are closing the gap we have something to compare against again. It doesn’t look good. A rookie manager with a team full of journeymen has taught us a valuable lesson this season. Income does not guarantee success if it is mismanaged, even against clubs like St Mirren or Livingston that cannot afford to spend anything on transfers.
Word of the Day;
“ultracrepidarian,”(19th century):
a presumptious critic; one who loves to give opinions on matters they know very little about.
Who waants tae start a list?
1.
List
No 1…..TheBhoyfromU.N.C.L.E
Spin doctors and conspiracy theories given as fact.
Its allowed, by the man who gave us weapons of mass destruction.
Seriously????????
Deluded : deceived by false beliefs.
Narcissistic.
Logged in now logging out ,had enough of the nonsense going on in here
Sometimes I read some fantastic posts on here and think I’m not clever enough to get into this debate, just read and enjoy.
Then sometimes I read stuff like last night’s contributions and I think maybe I am the clevererer one, log off time.
;-)
“ultracrepidarian,” excellent choice of word for the day.
Bring back The Good Old Days!
No messing about by Bristol City ,8 straight defeats manger sacked on the spot.We have a manager in Neil Lennon who has caused us to lose Millions in the Champions League and The Europa League as well as 10 league titles etc ,yet he is still at the club ,work that one out ,I read this morning that things happened at the club which he can’t divulge, Why not a lot of us are part of the club Season Tickets Holders for yrs ,or is that him telling us it wasn’t his fault but others that we are in this state off all seasons to have this to happen,I get the feeling he is sure he is going to still be the Manager next season (hope he isn’t) if he is you can bet your bottom dollar the club will lose about 12 Thousand Season Tickets .
Timbhoy2
7 managers in 10 years would indicate they’re not very good at picking a good one.
So Lenny reveals there’s been a reason behind our failings this season – but it’s to be kept secret.
Where do you start with that.
TIMBHOY2
The old ” mitigating circumstances “
It has been said by others long before me but our PR Department must be one of the worst out there and that’s quite a feat when we consider what Sevco have put out in the past few years! Lenny again putting out there some piece of information in the public domain and again insisting that he can’t tell us what it is! This may well be true but can he for at least one press conference not feel the need (and the PR Department support him in this) talk off topic, he should be discussing forthcoming games, tactics, opponents etc. nothing out with his remit.
Our PR Department needs to go as well as others in the great brave new world we’re promised for next season.
Gene – it’s those Masons again . . .
At least in his interview he didn’t say that we have been outstanding in the majority of games
James Tavernier faces Rangers ‘injury sweat’ as skipper a doubt for crunch Antwerp showdown.
Daily Rancid
HUGGIEBHOY67 on 17TH FEBRUARY 2021 10:10 AM
Word of the Day;
“ultracrepidarian,”(19th century):
a presumptious critic; one who loves to give opinions on matters they know very little about.
Who waants tae start a list?
1. Loads of folk :-))) !!!!
DAVID66…
Are you going to hospital TODAY for your Vaccine…I thought it was due to be on the 24th February ?
You will be fine mate, its Painless.
HH.
Fingers Crossed for Tonight…
Celtic- 6 v Aberdeen- 0.
HH
Gene,
Is this the first step in the propaganda to keep him in situ?
BIG JIMMY on 17TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:12 AM
Fingers Crossed for Tonight…
Celtic- 6 v Aberdeen- 0.
HH
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Great Post Jimmy Bhoy…ya auld handsome Tim ye.
HH.
Tavernier? Covid perhaps? por cierto
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 17TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:02 AM
James Tavernier faces Rangers ‘injury sweat’ as skipper a doubt for crunch Antwerp showdown.
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Did he drop a COVID test kit on his toe?
Check their team sheet tomorrow and those absent are the COVID brigade.
Will Our Fearless Media ask their idol about “the thinking in your selection O Might And Great One”?
Sometimes it’s a mistake to read the overnight posts… :-)
See we are being linked with David Marshall ,Robbie Brady ,no thanks been enough journeymen at Celtic,If that’s the best that the worldwide scouts and Nicky Hammond can do then heaven help us next season.