I remember Scotland-England games being huge events. They were proper derby games, fired up by a balance – a vastly more resourceful England were in the ascendancy, but Scotland had more wins in the history books. Despite the odd hiding we thought we could take them.
The Home International Championships probably ended at the right time, just before Scotland lunged into mediocrity. No derby remains attractive if one side dreads the game coming round, while the other considers it a formality, but our former manager has given us reason for hope.
Gordon Strachan took time off from the game to invest in his stock of knowledge before becoming Celtic manager. Despite an, erm, memorable opening week, Gordon blitzed Scottish football as Celtic manager. He filled the boots of legend Martin O’Neill, and within 18 months eclipsed him by reaching what we used to refer to as ‘the next level in the Champions League’.
Despite going on to reach the knock-out stage of the Champions League again, and becoming our third manager to win three-in-a-row, Gordon stopped progressing. His time at Celtic petered out, while the entire Middlesbrough episode was a nightmare.
Gordon, like Martin before him, looked as though the game had passed him by. His resurgence at Scotland is evidence of his outstanding attribute – he’s a student of the game who continually learns.
Roy Hodgson has by far the better players, but never bet against Gordon.
Shaun’s goal on Friday
31 years ago in Sarawak, Malaysia, a midwife, Beatrice Lo, assisted in the delivery of a boy born to a Scottish family who lived in her community. Beatrice got in touch with a common friend after wee Shaun’s goal on Friday, very proud of the kid she brought into the world.
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LiviBhoy
12:40 on
18 November, 2014
Plus the ASA is not a legal body. It primarily acts as an arbiter of public opinion. I think it’s the case (understandably so) that most people outwith Scottish football, and most people are, don’t really care and will consider them the same club. The ASA ruling reflects that.
I know I bring this up every time they are mentioned, but I was an investigator there, I know how they work.
Will big Mick walk?
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Big Mike’s big decision
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It is never a nice feeling when you realise that you are not as well informed as you thought you were.
I suspect that is how Mr Ashley is feeling right now.
His guys are looking under the hood and it isn’t pretty.
Mr Llambias and Mr Leach have found pretty much what Graham Wallace and Philip Nash discovered a year ago.
There have already been redundancies at Ibrox although, for now, the Murray Park staffing establishment has escaped the Ashley axe.
For now.
One long serving staff member at Ibrox stated to Mr Llambias that the football department seemed to be off limits.
He said this as he was told that he was being let go.
Mr Ashley’s trusted lieutenant replied that nowhere was safe from cuts and that this was only the start.
Deloitte has communicated via the embattled NOMAD Daniel Stewart & company that the dripping down on monthly quantities of life support serum is not acceptable.
Quite simply Mr Ashley will have to write a cheque for £12 million in order for the auditors to be satisfied that this is a going concern until June 2015.
That’s twelve million pounds and he would have to lodge it in the RIFC/TRFC bank account.
Only then will Deloitte sign off on the accounts.
The world renowned firm of auditors are still sore at the aftermath of the deal they thought they had for the accounts last year.
The £2.5 million credit line from shareholders (including Ashley) disappeared during the twelve month period that it was meant to be in place.
Despite the rather small size of the company Deloitte have a top team in place working on this because they know of the potential reputational damage if lots of bad stuff comes down the pipe.
If there are no accounts then there will be no AGM and for a publicly listed company that could mean a hefty fine from the Stock Exchange chaps.
I have been advised that these can be in the region of £200,000 to £300,000.
However as was pointed out to me by an Ibrox insider a fine of £50,000 would present a problem at the moment.
The last £ 1 million from Mr Ashley gets the operation to the middle of December and no further.
Further external assistance will be required to make payroll next month.
I understand that other bills are mounting up including one for Wi-Fi services.
Sources inform me that the overall bad news for the internet bill is compounded by an onerous add on.
The simple truth is that there is not money there to pay it.
Moreover I would not be surprised if the AIM chaps have served notice on the NOMAD that their clients RIFC are in the frame for share suspension.
Of course, that is merely speculation on my part.
I understand that the Sports Direct magnate is currently rather miffed with some of his close associates in the Blue Room.
I think it would be a fair characterisation to say that he feels that they did not fully apprise him of the severity of the financial situation at Ibrox.
Of course if Mr Ashley decides to Do Walking Away then that really is a game changer.
Oops sorry, the above post from Phills Blog.
Wee Shaun Maloney is 31?
Oh my life I’m getting old!
HH jamesgang
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
I think the ASA see it as a matter of opinion. If you beleive they are the same it is fine. If not then that is also fine. It’s pretty much appeasing everyone.
In football terms according to the SFA are they the same club?
I would say no because the membership was transfered. You do not transfer membership to the same club.
In the media eyes they are clearly the same club because it suits their agenda. They want it to be so and they also strive for the big game that provides them so many news stories and newspaper sales.
In my eyes they are different and nobody will ever convince me otherwise. I don;t even begin to care what the Huns think.
LB
That would be funny tony….if you just started lifting stuff from other sites and plonked it on here as your own!!!
;-)
HH jamesgang
Kitalba
Not entirely. I’ll tell you about it some time, preferably over a pint.
Kitalba
I was making a point about what we focus on.
Nothing more nothing less.
It’s a choice we make often unconsciously.
Bringing it up is not to threaten or force anyone away.
Neither was I disputing the view that there are matters to complain about although allowing for the business context Celtic operate in does bring some balance to the debate.
It was the fairly regular calling other supporters sheep that I was referring to. Apart from being inaccurate and insulting it serves no purpose other than eliciting a response.
I am well aware what I said. I said it to the SLO as well as here and it referred to changes at the SFA.
It’s a slow process but I’m feeling more confident it is inevitable now given what is keeping the full narrative underground will gradually be blown away.
Kitalba
Re your comments about Kev J. I have no problem with him offering his opinion on club policy etc, much of it I agree with. It’s the continual disparaging comments about fellow supporters that pisses me off.
If my memory serves me right MON gave Maloney his Celtic debut as a 17 year old against the now deid club.
kitalba
12:35 on 18 November, 2014
Oops, someone’s hit a nerve there, eh!! ……..everyone’s opinion is, indeed, valid .(even when always negative only)….you think some are naive fools, they might think you’re an unrealistic fool …..onward and upward, as Celtic Supporters, one and all……HH
TD67
And here was me thinking you had gone digging :)
Thanks for posting. None of that surprises me.
It’s keeping things secret that kills you.
Even Keith Jackson on Twitter used the term it could go thermo nuclear much to the amusement of Barcabhoy who got pilloried a few years back for using the term nuclear.
It will all come out. UEFA licence, LNS Commission misleading.
The methane gas build up under the manhole cover that has been keeping the lid on it will blow the lid off.
Now that our Craig can’t be found ,allegedly does that mean he is officially of the radar?
auldheid
12:59 on 18 November, 2014
So, it was your good self Kitala was slagging ( he, foolishly, didn’t say who he was addressing, and I hadn’t read back)
Kitala,
More fool you…..
Ginger
I think they are still Lucan for him.
(Hope that’s not prophetic.)
I’m surprised that Deloitte ever took on the job of auditing Sevco’s books.
That job was always fraught with the risk of bringing reputational damage and other grief to Deloitte’s door.
A level of risk and hassle that isn’t worth what they get paid to act as auditors for Sevco especially when as phil suggests they have to have a much larger team than is normal working on it because of its “unique” challenges.
As i say, I don’t understand why Deloitte took it on in the first place.
Auldheid 13:08
As much as the cover up after cover up has got to me at times,I have a belief that one day those responsible will be exposed as this has leaked outside the usual hampden Ipox ludge blanket.
Keep shining the light on them.
till later all
Very appropriate that the leader is acknowledging the considerable effect Gordon made to our fortunes “on and off the balance sheet.”
He brought success to the team and considerable knowledge and science into our training, scouting and medical methodologies.
History will be kinder to him than the present.
Just spent my dinner break reading the link posted by Auldhied @ 11.01.
When you scroll down to other links it blows apart the myth around Craig Whyte being responsible for RFC popping their clogs.
I’ve read most of it before, however, it is a reminder of to the internet bampots ,especially the Alf Young piece that Sir David Murray was indeed up to his neck in the whole outcome.
Why to this day , with this information aavailable do we still have to live with the propaganda ? It stinks.
the glorious balance sheet..
The Sevco audit account was taken on by Deloitte’s Manchester office as they had some historical connections to some of the spiv, sorry, investors. Deloitte Scotland partners are appalled at the reputational risk dumped on their patch.
Tamrabam
You are correct sir.
Wee Shaun came on as a sub at the Bigotdome on the day Lubo scored 2 and Henrik scored his 50th of the season.
A most satisfying afternoon to make your debut
67Heaven:
Nobody hit a nerve with me and if they want to consider me an unrealistic fool that be their prerogative and guess what mate… I’ll live with it. I’d prefer it if they appreciated that all I want to contribute to is what is best for the club and the support… end of – no agenda beyond that. I know that what he, and others post is often repetively ‘negative’ (for the want of a better word, I also know that a lot of what he posts is true and behind is posts and the responses they attract are truisms that merit comparisons with others we endlessly denigrate. What I don’t question is that he has concerns, passions, opinions, scepticisms, pessimisms, cynicisms, emotions, stigmas, and they are all cooked with integrity whether you share them or not. Often I share some of his feelings and more so, more often, his concerns, but because he unflinchingly holds his ground should not in itself be reason to berate him. I could say that all the board ass licking that goes on gets me worried because we are in the state we are in and I can’t see the board doing anything pro-active to rise us above parochial mediocrity. That concerns me a lot more than somebody having a daily bitch.
So he calls Celtic supporters sheep now and again, for the love of god if that is the worst he does then all I can say in response is toughen the eff up because you’ve endured worse and not too long from now you’ll maybe be exposed to the most toxic effluence society has ever witnessed.
Or is this a forum for lap-dogs without a pulse who bitch – and allow to bitch – on their terms only… is it really that narrow of mind?
Auld heid
I hope that the lid does blow off and all the shennigans are revealed however, it seems that everytime we predict the death of the hun some other eejit comes along
The taxman has so far failed to nail them on EBTs
The LNS farce went in their favour
The SFA/UEFA have no desire to nail them
The MSM are firmly on their side
Even the Advertising Standards Agency claimed they are still the same club
Our own club are amongst the most silent on the issue
I wish it wasnt so, but it looks like they will be playing in the SPFL in 2015 and there is very little we can do to stop the alleged old firm game taking place, which will go a long way to helping them back onto their knees again
While we wait for North Britain v South Britain, this is fascinating.
Go to
https://yougov.co.uk/find-solutions/profiles/
Select ‘Launch Profiler’ and I had fun comparing typical Celtic fans attributes such as politics, entertainment, personalities and lifestyles etc with a certain new team’s.
Very interesting.
It also suggests Better Together voters tend to watch a lot of Porn
Tony Donnelly, Ashley is in it for the money. Pretty soon Tiny Tim and the glass half full merchants Will be telling us Ashley will build the hover pitch while Celtic choke on the fumes from Ashley’s bentley.
If there are any crumbs of comfort from financial ground zero its that the British playboys can no longer fund largess using other people’s money.
If I remember ASA asked THE rangers if they were the same club! The same as LNS asked SFA if they had done anything wrong. F*** knows how HMRC said EBT were loans and not wages
Apologies for my laziness in advance…
Can anyone point me in the direction of the text of the proposed ad to be run in The Herald in the lead up to the LC semi final?
I saw on facebook a request for funding, however there’s no reference, or link, to the wording.
Cheers
tbdJ
Maloney also missed a great chance in said game
Taig Whyte and his Pape Recorder, still at large.
gordon_j backing neil lennon
No – the previous ruling was on the basis that it wasn’t misleading as the audience would know what they mean. They never said one way or other but fudged the matter contrary in my opinion to their clearly stated guidelines.
The new ad is a statement from Celtic supporters. We are getting the wording watertight so this is where it gets interesting.
The last time the wording – and the ad – was theirs and we complained.
However we are much more wordy in our text and will have gone through all proper regulatory, legal and editorial channels before publishing.
It is therefore open to anyone who thinks our ad is misleading in some way to object to ASA.
The ASA will then investigate our ad and the specific and detailed claims and reach a decision. Given we will have pre-appoval….
thebhoydavejapan
Email david@cqnmagazine.com
https://twitter.com/FoundationCFC/status/534701862319304704
The good work of THE INVISIBLES having a light shone on it.
Well done
:-)
HH
Auldheid
So you are saying that the scavengers pitch sits above the same oil,gas and precious metals field under Celtic Park that we were gifted the rights to by GCC :-)
This game tonight resulting in excellent coverage for Celtic Park,earlier on R5 they were interviewing a number of journos and low level stars,all were of one mind that on a Eurpoean night there was no better place to be.Zombies will be raging.
My friends in Celtic,
I think it is clear from this morning’s posts that if things are not clear, as in black and white ( No whyte pun intended ) then it will always be open to individual interpretation.
Ambiguity encourages speculation.
If Celtic had to act on information that is not deemed suitable for the public domain then I absolutely appreciate that. However what should then be appreciated is the supporters reaction to Celtic’s actions.
Ref the reaction from the fans down Greyskull way. Wow. Deluded is not even close. We need clarity which we will not get from the SFA. That is why we need the club to define our position prior to the LC semi.
Our supporters position is clear and thanks to admirable work of the CQN admin team, will soon become transparent to all. I realise that this will be contentious for some, but I feel in light of recent events it is inescapable for our club.
One simple way of achieving this is to ask a straight question at the AGM.
HH to all.
PS : Interesting terminology earlier. “Pet Posters” . Is this code for clique :-)
kitalba
13:24 on 18 November, 2014
Is KevJ your sister…..only joking, honest !!…….like the rest of us, you are passionate about all things Celtic……. There are only 3 certainties in all of this debate…
1) KevJ loves being slagged, and slagging the likes of me … !!!!
2) When all the circumstances are taken into account, the Celtic Board are doing a FANTASTIC job……. but they are not perfect, far from it…… Their silence since the 2012 demise of derhun is becoming ‘suspect’, for example ……!!!!
3) sevco are fecked……hahahahahahahahahahahahaha….
Hail Hail to you, sir
winning captains
13:41 on
18 November, 2014
I’m sorry there’s no such thing as pre-approval. The Committee of Advertising Practice will offer pre-publication advice but it does not constitute pre-approval nor would it prevent the ASA finding against an ad.
Provided everything you state it fact, backed by a high quality reliable source you’ll be fine. Anything that’s an opinion should be a quote and make clear where it is from.
Timmy7
Aye, I thought the amount of mentions celtic park was getting was due to the Scotland/Ireland/Mon/wgs malarkey.
Oor wee grund is still getting many mentions.