I remember Scotland-England games being huge events. They were proper derby games, fired up by a balance – a vastly more resourceful England were in the ascendancy, but Scotland had more wins in the history books. Despite the odd hiding we thought we could take them.
The Home International Championships probably ended at the right time, just before Scotland lunged into mediocrity. No derby remains attractive if one side dreads the game coming round, while the other considers it a formality, but our former manager has given us reason for hope.
Gordon Strachan took time off from the game to invest in his stock of knowledge before becoming Celtic manager. Despite an, erm, memorable opening week, Gordon blitzed Scottish football as Celtic manager. He filled the boots of legend Martin O’Neill, and within 18 months eclipsed him by reaching what we used to refer to as ‘the next level in the Champions League’.
Despite going on to reach the knock-out stage of the Champions League again, and becoming our third manager to win three-in-a-row, Gordon stopped progressing. His time at Celtic petered out, while the entire Middlesbrough episode was a nightmare.
Gordon, like Martin before him, looked as though the game had passed him by. His resurgence at Scotland is evidence of his outstanding attribute – he’s a student of the game who continually learns.
Roy Hodgson has by far the better players, but never bet against Gordon.
Shaun’s goal on Friday
31 years ago in Sarawak, Malaysia, a midwife, Beatrice Lo, assisted in the delivery of a boy born to a Scottish family who lived in her community. Beatrice got in touch with a common friend after wee Shaun’s goal on Friday, very proud of the kid she brought into the world.
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Amidst all the sleekit pop-up, pig – wrasslin’………………
…thank-guidness
for Barcabhoy’s contribution earlier.
HH.
GM
Now now sir :-)
As I have said before…..
A Celtic fan, trolling other Celtic fans, on a Celtic website is the sump of the modern football Celtic supporting world.
Any news on Lustigs injury? Cheers.
KevJ
Just trying to get my head around what your daily ranting achieves. At least make the move and draft up a letter. You may just be surprised by the response from Celtic. I think some of your grievances are merited and some are misguided but geting answers on some or explanations may just give yourself some closure.
I don;t know what you are getting out of constant ranting. If it makes you feel better then fair play but continual ranting about the same issues on here is achieving nothing. Just a thought.
LB
bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers
10:31 on 19 November, 2014
TONYDONNELLY
Feet up,pint in hand,enjoy the show. It’s gonna make mud-wrestling look like Swan Lake once the blame game gets started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That is what I’m looking forward to, I hope I’m not let down, .
but right now I I have to start phase one of my bowel screening test kit,
Brb.
Gordon
“Those of us who voted No did so because we judged being in the union as best for Scotland”
There are myriad reasons why individuals voted one way or the other. On the No side, the spectrum moves from a deep connection to the idea of Union, to a sense of shared history and life experience, to lack of confidence in Scotland as an economic entity, to more tangible criteria such as personal job security, pensions uncertainty, savings security, business outlook and whatnot.
Some who voted no did so because Scotland being in the Union was in the best interests of the United Kingdom.
Some who voted no did so because Scotland being in the Union was in the best interests of self.
Some who voted no closely considered voting Yes, may even have been emotionally inclined to vote Yes, but were unconvinced by the argument provided.
And more besides. There is no hierarchy of virtue in any of these reasons, each being as valid at the personal level as the next, although clearly some are more associated with an idea of ‘patriotism’ – to either UK or Scotland – than others.
There has been a fair amount of commentary and analysis on the difference in attitudes between those who had more to lose and those who had less. There is a clear inverse relationship in the voting data between personal wealth and inclination to vote Yes according to such as Gerry Hassan, Brian Taylor and John Curtice for example.
More wealth: Less inclination is an identifiable trend across the country’s wards, constituencies and regions.
On this basis, may I kindly suggest you rephrase your sentence to read:
“Some of us who voted No did so because we judged being in the union as best for Scotland.”
TBB
Seen on twitter
Apologies if already posted
50yrs whittttttttt
50 years ago today, Ronnie Simpson made his Celtic debut. Less than three years later, he’d be a European Cup winner.
https://twitter.com/MaleysBhoys/status/534852952385921024
Burghbhoy
LNS made his decision based on evidence requested and provided.
Key to his decision was that ebts used were not irregular based on no FT T decision at the time and of course the ebts under FTT judgement were deemed not irregular ( although HMRC are appealing).
His reasoning was that any club was free to use them as a legitimate way to pay players so their use offered no advantage that any club could not have availed itself of.
So no more sporting advantage than a club with a bigger ground having more supporters than a club with a smaller ground as in theory the club with smaller ground are free to increase crowd capacity. ( As Celtic did).
HOWEVER
Not all the specified documentation was provided to The SPL lawyers who wrote the terms of reference and amongst the missing material were side letters to De Boer and Flo plus a payment to Moore using what was deemed in 2010 to be an irregular ebt (called Discount Option Scheme).
Had the documentation been supplied the lawyers would have had to change the terms of the Commission, which would have made the no sporting advantage decision impossible as other clubs could not have used those type of ebts.
What LNS did in absence of that evidence of the true nature of the DOS ebts was to lump them all together.
He was misled by accident or design but misled.
He was also not put straight by Campbell Ogilvie in his testimony. Ogilvie having instigated the first irregular ebt in 1999 and of course being a beneficiary of a later loan ebt that so far is deemed regular.
These points were put to SPL lawyers who failed to address the points raised and they have subsequently washed their hands of the issue and passed it to the SFA.
The SPFL were copied in on all correspondence too.
No reply so far but there will be more to say in the coming weeks.
The full story is told in a series of Blogs on TSFM in letters and comments in the main blogs.
In short LNS was duped.
My friends in Celtic,
Trolling is subjective.
Unless of course we are discussing a giant dwarf or similar.
HH.
PS : Kev J, you have made some very pertinent points this morning which others have already acknowledged.
PS on LNS
Titles at stake were 1999 and 2003 as Moore played in season 1999 and De Boer in 2003 and was paid by an irregular ebt before moving to the type under appeal.
Saint Stivs
Aah , the old GH1690, Gullible Hunnie, just looked it up on my guide to the periodic table….
Name…. GH1690, from the Latin Gullible hunnite.
Characteristics…. A bitter gas , often very combustible when mixed with gases of superior quality. Doesn’t mix well, if inhaled will leave an extremely bitter after taste.
Isaacnewtonno1csc
winning captains
10:26 on 19 November, 2014
The total sum for the raffle fund is sitting at £1105 towards our target of £1500.
Have you had any contact from other fan sites ( Celtic or other teams ) regarding the advert ?
I was voting yes all the way, UNTILL Salmon made a pure arse of himself in the first debate,(in my opinion) no plan, no money plan, no contingency plan, I said if that’s your best shot pal at taking us on a journey to self rule, then I’m afraid I was looking for better leadership than that, four years of planning and that’s the best you can do? I was for it yes, but he blew it, it was there all he needed was leadership qualities and in my opinion, he fell way short of that, I voted no, as in No leadership or a strong person in charge was any where to be seen, so it was an as was, but that was just the way I thought, plain and simple no confidence in the man waving the banner I wanted to be under, another day I hope.
good morning tims
“My league debut for Celtic was in October 1969 when we played Raith Rovers. Bobby Murdoch was sitting beside me and asked if I was nervous. ‘No’ I replied. ‘Well’ he said, ‘you are putting your boots on the wrong feet’. I looked down and he was right.”
From @celticfc
ENGLAND captain Wayne Rooney has another cherished memory of Celtic Park to add to his collection after finally winning a game at Paradise.
The Manchester United striker led his country into battle last night (Tuesday) against Gordon Strachan’s Scotland in the first Auld Enemy clash north of the border for 15 years.
Rooney has relished his trips to Celtic Park twice before with Manchester United, but has failed to come away victorious on each occasion after losing 1-0 to Shunsuke Nakamura’s famous free-kick in 2006 and drawing 1-1 in 2008.
The England ace changed that last night when he notched a double either side of Andrew Robertson’s well-taken strike for the Scots, which was enough to complement Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain’s opener and give England a 3-1 victory in front of a packed Celtic Park.
The tie had a spectacular start with the stadium lit up with fireworks and filled with the noise of bagpipes before kick-off and Rooney said the atmosphere from the evening will live long in his memory.
In an exclusive interview with Celtic TV, Rooney said: “It was great. I always enjoy coming here and I’ve been to Celtic Park a few times now and I’ve enjoyed the stadium so it was obviously even better that we got the victory.
“It was great to lead the boys out into that and it’s always great to captain the team in such an occasion at Celtic Park. It was a great game to play in and great to get the win.”
Rooney and his family have a strong affinity with Celtic and he has visited the stadium on more than one occasion as a fan to catch some of the big games which have taken place here.
The striker added that he always enjoys his visits to Glasgow but, despite some keen questioning, refused to be drawn on the prospect of making a future trip north of the border on a permanent basis.
He added: “My family and I have always followed Celtic, since I was a boy anyway, so my kids have all got Celtic kits and I always look out for the scores.
“I got asked about coming here but I’m concentrating on Manchester United and England at the moment.”
@celticfc: .@WayneRooney delighted to be back at Paradise, http://t.co/SMZnWneLLK (SC) http://t.co/9tJmW1Iq5F
HH
TBB
Excellent analysis.
You missed out the philosophical category of any who think independence is not real as the reality is we are all interdependent.
Mind you it is likely to be such a small number it could be overlooked or filed under nutter. :)
from cqn mag
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10245477_883142788378016_3546756686315060124_n.jpg?oh=4c1f51a17769beb4d5bd94fc51cfc645&oe=550F572B
hope it works
HH
Leading on from the Morten Wieghorst goal I posted yesterday, here is another of my favourite Celtic goals by another man who has come through serious illness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvbI3A8CR3M
Belter…
sorry cqn mag facebook page
Just catching up on international friendly results from last night.
Noticed a wee regional/international friendly in there too.
England Thistle 1 England 3
Not too shabby for a wee region playing against it’s owner.
MWD said AYE. Nay regional unionist in ma hoos.
Auldheid
Many thanks for your reply.
I take the point on EBTs and Bryson’s intervention but surely the point of ‘ Unsporting advantage’ is that they played players they could not afford as evidenced in their administration and subsequent liquidation process.
Whether these players were paid by EBT which was legal or illegal does not alter the fact that they traded as an insolvent club , playing players they could not afford , to win trophies they should not have won.
This is the unsporting advantage.
Some may say that they paid their bills during the cheating years but they were undoubtedly insolvent for years, Murray increasing the debt which was never to be repaid aided by his buddy at the Bank , Masterton.
On that basis alone they are deserving of titles being stripped IMO .
Please keep up the pressure , you and others are doing fantastic work in exposing the cheating and I am sure that future generations of Celtic supporters will be forever in your debt.
Hail Hail sir
As a guy said EBTs where a side issue, a distraction, it was all about the bank borrowing and how much money they didn’t have, at the time in 1994 when the banks where trying to lock us out for monies owed, THEMS owed the banks more than us but thems had their arses coverd in Edinburgh and the BOS, UNTILL Lloyd’s of London stepped in, and they sold the joint for a nicker, Craigy Bhoy went to Ticketus for a Lenny, with a signature of guarantee along with his of none other than Sir David Murry, fact.
Auldheid
…and the folk who consider true Interdependence to be a higher state, who recognise the current arrangements as being largely based upon Dependence and who consider Independence as being a necessary intermediary step.
And others besides.
Tonydonnelly67
SNAP
Davidopolous,
Is it a Darren Jackson strike? :)
I’m sure that game was a Saturday evening kick off. Anyone confirm?
If it was the game I’m thinking of i watched it in a boozer in Doncaster after a no bad day at the st ledger. :))
The missus was using the laptop last night while I watched the game.
Judging by the adverts I’m getting on CQN this morning, I have a fair idea of what I’m getting for Christmas.
The list includes fashion jewellery, clothes from ASOS and a new Lexus.
Much improved I must say from last week’s Tena Man and tickets on the Heathrow Express.
Life’s looking up.
Read a wee article on news now, Marsielle interested in signing John Guidettin in January transfer window
How are they going to do that ? He is signed on loan to Celtic until end of season
Or has Big Peter pulled another trick and we will get money for releasing him in January :-)
Oh they are desperate to disrupt us
On,y 3 more sleeps until the Bhoys are back
Hall Hail
Kitalba
1. Surprised you played the whataboutery card.
2. He makes no distinction between those who do and those who question and act.
3 See above.
On judgement who am I to judge?
TBB
Aye them too. :)
Geordie Munro
I am frantically searching for DJ’s goal against Croatia Zagreb (as I remember them being called back then) but to no avail…
bognorbhoy
King Kenny
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/1969-10-04:+Celtic+7-1+Raith+Rovers,+League+Division+1
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/1969-10-04:+Celtic+7-1+Raith+Rovers,+League+Division+1+-+Pictures
HH
bognorbhoy @ 1103,
King Kenny on his Celtic debut?
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
lymmbhoy,
ya bassa!
:-)
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
Davidopolous,
Ha!
That dundee game must be 10 years ago. My mate was 40 in the Sept and he was 50 this year.
Was that a young langfield in goals??
TD67
Whilst all of that is a fact over borrowing or using other people’s money did not break any football rules.
The concept of financial fair play came into play in Oct 2010 and enhanced from June 2011. So no rules broken before then although the principle does apply to earlier.
On ebts the rules were broken, so if anyone wants to make a case for title stripping, ebts have to be the way and LNS said they were all ok when some clearly are not.
Cowiebhoy
Marseille would have to pay £5m to get him in January. Man City didn;t have Guidetti’s papaer work organised enough to sign in time on deadline day so I’m sure Peter has made sure the loan deal is water tight regarding John. I think Man City know they have blown it with Guidetti both in terms of not giving him a chance in their own team who are toiling and also not having the paper work on time from Stoke City to allow him to play Europa League which would have increased his value and potential suitors. Also if they have not put a clause in to take him back in January to sell him, play him or get him to sign a new deal they have been very stupid.
John appears to be happy at Celtic and whether people like it or not our chances of keeping him may just be enhanced with the impending Glasgow derby with the new club from across the Clyde. I think John would also quite like a crack at European fitba so securing the knock out phases would be a boost to keeping Guidetti.
In saying all that if the boy decides in January or at the end of the season that he would like to go elsewhere then we wish him well and move on. We all know how fitba works and have seen anough badge kissers in our time to realise that any player can move at anytime no matter what you may think they are thinking about staying at the club.
Celtic have done a decent job not only getting Guidetti but handling the business well. Man city may be a super power in monetary terms and compete for players with huge transfer fees and wages but their administration appears to be poor and they may just look at how Celtic handle their business in this respect because it looks like they may have lost at least £5m in transfer fee for a very able player.
Over to John Guidetti in January. I hope he signs a pre-contract for Celtic but if he doesn;t then we move on and find our next star in the Hoops.
LB
Davidopolous,
fantastic strike from Stan!
Langfield never stood a chance.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token