Corporate memory of persistent champions


I watched Real Madrid outplayed by Chelsea for most of last night.  The visitors performed exceptionally well to take a three goal lead and could have put the game out of sight before Real got  a foothold in the game.

Chelsea won twice in Spain in last season’s Champions League, scoring five without reply at Sevilla and Atletico, before taking a draw at Real in the semi-final, they know how to compete in this competition.  No team, however, knows more about winning in the Champions League than Real Madrid.

Real win this tournament when they are well below par domestically, they find an assured calmness to their play, even when, as last night, they were 0-3 down and the obits were being written about coach Carlo Ancelotti.  This is all down to corporate memory.  More than any team in football, they know how to perform under intense pressure on the big stage.

You have witnessed this on a smaller scale in Scotland.  Celtic’s 36 game unbeaten run in domestic cup competitions, from 2016 to 2020, defined credulity.  Form varied during that run, the only consistent was outcome.  Celtic won so many knockout games, they knew most of the pitfalls and prepared thoroughly.

If anything, form at semi-finals and finals is even more impressive.  Celtic are on a run of 18 successive wins on these Hampden occasions, without once going to extra time.  Others must reach the National Stadium and start work on blocking out so many bad memories.  When you go up against Real Madrid in the Champions League, or Celtic in the Scottish or League Cup, you have a chance, but whatever you have in your locker, you cannot match the winning attributes of persistent champions.

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  1. RM — League vs CL — the performance gap.


    Not sure if this something RM would like to highlight.



    You have the bookie angle.


    The swimming in caffeine angle.


    The snider / cheapshot on the GK angle.



    I think they would prefer we do not talk about it

  2. Hearts took us to ET in the delayed Cup Final but yes, our record at Hampden is outstanding recently.

  3. Susie Dent








    Word of the day is ‘maw-worm’ (19th century): one who insists that they have done nothing wrong, despite evidence to the contrary.

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  5. Not sure if it has been mentioned but the B team were pretty poor yesterday.


    The lack of a functioning MF caused a few issues but we were seemingly honking.



    Time for a change regarding the youth / B team coaching set up.


    Too many pals of pals / ex CB’s going through the motions.



    Add in the implosion of the U18’s — 9th in a 2 horse league — and big change is needed quickly.

  6. FOURSTONECOPPI on 13TH APRIL 2022 10:30 AM




    I am sad to read of the sudden passing of your Uncle Pat.


    May he R.I.P.


    YNWA Pat.

  7. Garngad to Croy on

    What happens if the Huns win the Europa League (I know, I know) do Celtic drop into the Champions League qualifiers as the Europe League winner is guaranteed a place in the Champions League?




    I would guess no as that spot was always allocated to Europa winners.



    Even if Villarreal won the CL, Russian clubs will most likely be banned so we’d get the automatic place anyway.



    We’re good to go should we get ten points from the last 5 games.

  9. Fourstonecoppi sorry to hear of the passing of your game buddy uncle Pat .



    Pat Reilly R.I.P.

  10. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    GARNGAD TO CROY on 13TH APRIL 2022 12:27 PM


    What happens if the Huns win the Europa League (I know, I know) do Celtic drop into the Champions League qualifiers as the Europe League winner is guaranteed a place in the Champions League?





    Was about to reply in the same vein as AN DÚN – I think that place (for the Europa winners) is already in the CL structure. I haven’t checked though. Might dig into that later after work.



    Check Bert Kassie’s site






  11. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on






    I can safely say I answered most of your points last night with purely logical and matter of fact reasoning providing information that is available as public record in the west. Unfortunately most posts were censored and I can only assume they were deleted because they challenged the moderators own opinions and required him to think about his position, rather than do that he removed them and retained his cognitive dissonance. None of the posts were derogatory, rude or contained expletives which I expect I would have been barred for if I had strayed into that area.



    I posted the articles from the UN’s universal human rights decleration to demonstrate how the people of not only the Donbass but the general Ukrainian population had their rights removed at the 2014 coup. the two biggest political parties in the country were outlawed, the Russian, Polish and Hungarian languages were made criminal to utter.



    However I note you have also been indoctrunated into the Putin is evil propaganda sect so I expect any of the arguments provied last night would have been ignored for either derogatory attacks or cherry picking insignificant details or the tangential diversions that I have come to expect when discussing serious subjects on here.



    Lets just say I disagree with most of what you say (I agree that war is a terrible place to be) but its better than watching the ethnic cleansing that has been continued over the last 8 years on the people of the Donbass but gone unreported in the west.



    If I am wrong I will have no problem admitting I am wrong when independent investigations are completed and the evidence is available however when the UK refused to allow discussion on Bucha when the Russian’s requested this at the UN security council, (the firt time in the UN’s history a request from a permanent member has been rejected), with a full and indepnedent inquiry. I don’t hold out much hope that an independent inquiry will be allowed by the west.



    The west is winning the information war and silencing dissenters (as i have been on a blog) appears to be the new norm, I’m left wondering what would be enough to convince people like yourself that the west is as usual, the main problem as they have demonstrated over the last 30 years.



    Is here anything that would convince you?



    I expect history will be the judge and hope all those who want me silenced now, are man enough to admit they were wrong when the time comes, I’ll leave it there.

  12. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Actually I’ll leave it on this taken from an article from an anti-war website by Edward Curtin, educated in the classics, philosophy, literature, theology, and sociology, Teaches sociology at Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts.



    A few weeks after Reagan was sworn in, his newly named CIA Director William Casey (see Robert Parry’s book, Trick or Treason: The 1980 October Surprise Mystery), made a revealing comment at a meeting of the new cabinet appointees. Casey said, as overheard and recorded by Barbara Honegger who was present, “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”



    It appears to have been implemented perfectly going by this blog.

  13. Canamalar


    Yes, the West is winning the information war, but only in the West. Africa, Latin America and most of Asia are in the main not impressed and abstained on the UN motion condemning Russia. They are not stupid and recognise US/NATO hypocrisy.


    The only winner of the war is the US, which is increasing its imports of Russian oil while European countries are following US instructions and reducing imports of Russian oil and gas. It’s win-win for US arms manufacturers and fossil fuel corporations. They’ll fight to the last Ukrainian.

  14. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on



    After me, after me.



    I do not agree, I believe this is the last chance to make the world multi-polar and end the empires hegemony.


    I do not accept “better the devil you know” that appears to be the general consensus. The devil we know has murdered millions of civilians over the last 30 years in illegal invasions.

  15. What is the Starz on




    Admit you were wrong Will you ??



    Not a chance of that



    You are wrong about this ..You have been wrong about plenty on here before ,You never admit being wrong


    You are an arrogant contrarian who thinks its clever to say Black because the BBC says White


    its not clever its infantile


    Putin is an evil war mongering fascist murderer


    If it makes you happy I only know that because i read it in the Telegraph.



    Now please desist in this obnoxious support for Putin

  16. A worthy repost of a fine eulogy to your uncle fourstonecoppi



    FOURSTONECOPPI on 13TH APRIL 2022 10:30 AM


    I got a call yesterday morning from my Aunt that my dear auld uncle Pat (Paddy Reilly) died that very morn from a heart attack, untimely taken at 75. What can i say except i’m heartbroken.



    This was my Da’s wee brother who was only 11yrs older than me. We were great pals, he took me to my first game at 5 and so it continued…..the 1st of the 9 at fir park wi the ‘buzz bomb’ scoring, right through the euro years with the lions, his tattoo on his forearm of the European cup from ‘Terry’s’ (at the bottom of Millerston St next to the ‘General Wolf’) Vojvodina, Leeds, the Henrik years etc etc we rarely (well he) missed a game. We separated briefly during my mad teenage years were i wis a ‘Jungle Jim’ and full of it. Sometimes during those years whenever i wanted to hook up wi him i knew where to find him……the exact same spot we always stood, in the Cellic end up at the back, where in the past the weans could be flung up in the girders so we could see the game.



    Along came the Martin O’Neil years and the seats. Pat got one more or less on the same spot in the ‘Cellic’ end. Me?, i didn’t get one..i was an impoverished touring musician and could rarely get to a game. That soon changed when i became a Da’ i settled down and got a seat in the hun end would you believe. That also soon changed and a seat became available beside Pat, i got it, and we were together again for the next 20yrs. Happy days.



    Over the last couple of years he was really struggling to get up the stairs (to stubborn to take the lift btw), mainly because of an old injury in his hip from his scaffolder years. So we discussed relocating next season to the tier below, especially as i wis going onto my concession ticket turning 65. On Saturday against St Johnstone he couldn’t make it so i did a ‘recky’ underneath the top tier to view possible seating areas to relocate (if available). Wow great seats with a great view and could cut out a number of flights of stairs, the very dab, I’ll speak to him later and we could get the forms in before renewal.



    Alas, it was not to be, His wife Helen called me yesterday morn with the news. It seemed all very quick….wee chest pain, no feeling well, better get up to A&E, aye he’ll be ok, … sorry we did everything we could but he’s passed away, WTF.



    So Hail Hail My friend, we had a blast!





    Paddy Reilly,rest in peace.





    Thanks for posting,Celtic Park holds so many memories to us,that are lifes building blocks,taught as we many I look to different parts of the ground and the memories of those who gave us Celtic is around always,your uncle Pat is there with us,and always will be.




  17. still silence on us not giving them any tickets for the next league derby due to thems disgraceful behaviour , agree our B team looked very poor last night.

  18. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on



    censorship again eh it appears to becoming your go to position when you can’t provide any evidence to support your position.


    You’ll be able to provide plenty of examples where I was wrong and did not admit it then, go on?


    Did you see the swastika on the wall of the recent BBC interview of the Ukrainian politician?


    and Putin is the fascist, your supporting historically proven nazi’s who are not afraid to admit it and your calling Putin a fascist, a bit rich.





    as rare as hens teeth on here you are.

  19. Up in the rafters, only once.



    Celtic v Juventus 1980



    Giving a weird view but can clearly recall mcleos deflected goal, and the performance of one Liam Brady.



    God bless your uncle paddy.




    Did you see the swastika on the wall of the recent BBC interview of the Ukrainian politician?






    Do you have a link to the interview? I don’t get the BBC in this part of the world.

  21. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on



    will look for it now but there are other examples where the BBC interview Ukrainian soldiers with nazi insignias.

  22. Can’a … @ 1.00



    Not sure if you are reading the right or working out the basics.



    I fully understand — or am starting to understand — the complexity of what Ukraine was / is / will be in the future. Very complex topic that we would do well to understand more about and it would then help us to better understand ourselves.



    The development of Ukraine vs slavery / the full picture not the current Nat 5 cartoon version.


    The development of Russia / Russian empire vs engagement with Europe / place in Europe



    Ukraine since 2006 / 14 has been an interesting test case of various actors / trends getting involved the development of a country and where all this will end up. All starting to look like the fable of the wind vs the sun with VP playing the wind and losing badly to an EU playing the sun.



    Russia is still a closed / Klondyke capitalist economy running itself for a small elite who have the unwelcome habit of making a show of what they have while the EU is open and offers progress to a lot of people both in Ukraine and also Russia.



    As mentioned previously my household has skin in this game — I am an old school Russophile while my better half relies on both Ukraine and Russia to work the numbers for Big Pharma which has helped deliver a number of post CoViD19 projects in these challenging times.



    VP is an erse — he doesn’t need a EU / US black ops PR project to prove it.


    The guy exudes total erse wallopery as a matter of course.



    No matter the situation in the Donbass — he had 7 years to work a narrative to highlight the situation but as far as I can see he never bothered. Big issue of the airliner disaster might have kept his gas at a peep but no matter — to me — he did nothing.



    Interesting that most of the issues involved were highlighted by his opposite number — VZ — when he visited the frontline over a year ago to sell his ceasefire/ peace deal and found the Azov Battalion not wanting to listen to his narrative — his words were I think — I am the president so you have to listen to me.



    Main point is that VP threw the first punch and all the death and destruction of the last 7 weeks is on him — the Russian tanks outside of Kiev were not a mirage and without the invasion there would be no death and destruction on this huge / unprecedented scale.



    Plus my nearest and dearest would not be having a ring round every morning with her managers to make sure that everybody is still safe and sound then phoning Business Continuity to find out if their guy had made it to Kharkiv to get a programmer out — not a good place for anyone to be.



    Consequently — the here and now that affects me — VP is an erse.


    The view from afar looking at what is happening now — VP is still an erse.


    He is destroying Russia from the inside — fur coat and nae knickers right enough.



    Regarding your geo-political stuff — Russia is not in that game anymore.


    Last year it was up for debate — this year we know for sure that is a toom tabard / big girls blouse.


    For Russia to have a future it has to realise that it really is European but just a bit bigger.


    The empire is gone and klondyking only works if you are the size of Aus or SAr.


    Consequently needs to play economic development game.



    History has a huge part to play in all this but first the fighting has to stop.



    1991 — Ukraine getting lippy and wanting its independence was strange to me at the time. Since so much of its western areas were ex Poland — I wondered what would happen if they asked for them back?



    Ukraine as a melting pot seems to be the way of it — just a case of who is doing the stirring becomes crucial.



    However Russia is losing the propaganda war and is losing the shooting war as well — when you are in a hole the trick is to stop digging.

  23. bigrailroadblues on

    Good afternoon all from the Penny Farthing. And another fine day in the centre of the universe- Govanhill.

  24. And all the while the US is importing 700,000+ barrels of oil a day from Russia, just the other week a Russian tanker offloaded 170,000 cubic mts of gas at Bilbao, they do this on a regular basis I understand, the hypocrisy knows no bounds.






    Sad news about your uncle, may he RIP.

  25. Monsters vs Aliens — Discuss.


    Fascists vs Nazi’s — Discuss.


    Nationalists vs Civic Nationalists — Don’t discuss this is Nat Land remember and Not Jacinda has decreed it.



    Identity politics is at the heart of all that is bad / going wrong with the world.



    Everybody wants someone to blame.


    They all want simple solutions to complex problems.


    Things going wrong — all the fault of someone else.



    If the blame comes close to me then I will find an excuse / someone to blame of the interweb — easy.

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