These days are often tense, but I doubt you or I are too stressed right now. If we went 0-2 up tonight, my overriding emotion is likely to be annoyance that we were presented with a flicker of hope, before it is inevitably dashed. Celtic will go out of Europe tonight, of that, there is no doubt.
Having accepted this, there is still plenty for us to gain from Valencia. We need to learn how to play against better teams. We will not always win against them, but losing 5, 6 or 7 goals is unnecessary at any level. Drubbings like this can be prevented by being more defensively aware.
With Forrest, Sinclair, Burke, Weah and Edouard, we have all the ingredients necessary to be a polished counter-attacking team. Let’s defend our box and see what happens.
I feel for Steve Clarke, the Kilmarnock manager who was clearly upset and humiliated by sectarian abuse thrown his way at Ibrox last night. After the game, he reflected that it was a bonus his children and grandchildren did not have to live in this environment.
Steve left a different Scotland for London in 1987. For what it’s worth, I think this form of sectarianism is less prevalent than it was in the 80s. It remains in pockets, but huge swathes of the country have no affinity with it and are embarrassed by it. I do not encounter it in my professional life and it is never directed to me in my personal life, although I hear it on the streets in the evening.
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Hayes, Jozo look likely to start.
https://celtsarehere.com/brendan-rodgers-makes-big-call-early-team-news/
Scottish football is rapidly self destructing. Everything about it at the moment is poisonous. The refereeing organisation is crooked from top to bottom. Any criticism of them by managers or clubs is likely to be met by retribution on the pitch. Steve Clarke’s Kilmarnock got their’s last night via a red card and the non-award of a penalty. The SFA, SPFL, the media, the clubs are all complicit. I don’t think in my lifetime I can remember a period as poisonous as the current time we live in.
It’s likely to continue too, unless someone says, “Enough is enough.” Chairman Mao said that a journey of ten thousand miles begins with a single step. I’ve been following the hullabaloo on social media this morning. Steve Clarke is right and very brave to condemn it the way he did. He deserves everybody’s support. Lots of our fans are rallying to condemn the Rangers support but our fans did it to Kris Boyd on Saturday. It’s also no use condemning their support for hitting the linesman at LIvingston with a coin if one of ours does the same to Boyd. We know everything that any negative action by the Celtic support or by a Celtic player will be headline news and the subject of much condemnation and prolonged debate in the media and that any similar behaviour from the other side will not be held up to similar scrutiny. It’s the way things work in a society when you are part of a minority. Especially an uppity, noisy minority. Most right minded people would like it to stop, I would imagine, but who is going to take that first step? It won’t be the politicians, that’s for sure. We are currently seen as part of the problem, ‘the other side of the coin’ by most people in Scotland and UK. Saturday’s behaviour gave them evidence that we are.
If the situation is to change, it has to come from us. We have to make the first move. It won’t come from Rangers or their acolytes in the organisations mentioned above. Celtic have to put our house in order. Celtic have to introduce a zero tolerance policy towards those elements of our support that embarrass the club and the rest of the support. Fergus introduced a policy making it clear that any form of discrimination would be unacceptable and not tolerated. That needs to be revisited, highlighted and promoted with vigour so that everyone gets the picture. Negative chanting needs to be called out and dealt with by the club. Refuse to handle tickets for away games if fans embarrass the club. Issue a code of conduct for home games stating what is not permissible: sectarian chanting, flares, smoke bombs. We were doing well for so long but have become complacent and we are now part of the problem. We can’t occupy the moral high ground if we do the same things as the people we complain about.
Our Celtic Board need to show an example by providing leadership. If we put our own house in order and show zero tolerance to behaviour unbecoming of Celtic fans then pressure will build on others to do the same.
Sorry for the long post. My iPad crashed 5 times and Some of my post got lost and I had to try to remember what I had said. Nightmare.
BSR@ 1:32
“Maybe suits the Celtic board who do nothing for our away supporters and players who have been regularly routinely abused.”
100% nail on head.
I dont understand why people are happy for SC to go public with the complaints, but yet continue to support our Board, when they say nothing.
Wee Bobby Collins @ 1:36
Those two words explain so much about scottish football… they say it all really.
FUBAR @ 1:41
On that evidence, the red seems deserved.
ANGELGABRIEL
I didn’t know Jonny Doolan has passed. Shocker really, far too young. R.I.P.
The SMSM will be in full deflection mode for the rest of this week.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Steve Clarke walks.
Thanks to the generosity of One Malloy(Hugh)and his lovely wife (Sheila) myself and BMCUWP late of this parish have tickets for the game?
Not only that but they refused to allow me to pay for mine and said it was their birthday present to me for my 80th
This CQN fraternity is absolutely magnificent ???
Statement from the SFA
“The Scottish FA condemns in the strongest possible terms the spate of incidents this season involving unacceptable conduct in Scottish football. This season we have witnessed match officials and players hit by coins, sectarian singing at matches and abusive and threatening behaviour towards match officials, players, managers and coaching staff. This behaviour is completely unacceptable and simply has no place in football, or indeed Scottish society.
Football has a responsibility to take action. We must do all that we can under our current rules and engage with clubs to seek to eradicate such behaviour.
This issue, however, is not one that football can solve on its own. To that end, SPFL Chief Executive Neil Doncaster and I recently met with Cabinet Secretary for Justice Humza Yousaf, Minister for Public Health, Sport and Wellbeing Joe Fitzpatrick and Police Scotland Assistant Chief Constable Bernie Higgins to discuss unacceptable conduct in football and how we can work together to address this.
We will seek further discussions in light of the most recent events to maintain the momentum for change.”
1.55 am KO in west oz.
First day back home from getting a hip replacement on Tuesday. Told wife about the game/time she rolls her eyes and says ‘ your supposed to be resting and recovering ‘
Undeterred I said ‘ watching the hoops get a victory tonight will be better for me than any medicine they’ve prescribed ‘
Shakes her head and says ‘ yer daft ‘
‘ no I was nae ‘ I replied.
Maybe she was right ;))))
HH
Paul
Agree, I cannot see a win tonight for us, can hope though. Problem as I see it, I don’t think they are a better side than us, it’s just the calibre of opposition the play week in, week out. By comparison. the teams we play just stop us , or try to, so we must find a way to constantly improve.
Tonight, and I hate cliches, is a big learning curve for us. Try to learn from it and get experience of better than normal opposition
KINGLuBO
Another conclave but this time organized by SFA – allegedly.
It would not have taken place had there been no “incidents” at Rugby Park of that I am certain.
When they can dress this up as a societal problem or a 2 sides problem then they rush to have a high level hand wringing session.
I can see headlines tomorrow after the heavy handed police activity in Valencia.
HH
F.U.B.A.R.BHOY,
That video seems to be genuine and ties in with the other angle I saw this morning.
On that basis, seems the goalkeeper has been foolish and given the boy the chance to exagerrate.
Red card will, and should be, upheld if that video is deemed authentic admissible.
So, looks like I was wrong on that count.
Celtic should have come out and condemned whoever threw the coin at KB on Sunday and the sectarian abuse he received, Sevco should have come out and condemned their support for the sectarian abuse aimed at SC, the fact that neither have said anything at all more or less guarantees it will continue indefinitely. Cant understand why neither club are calling them out, what are they afraid of I wonder.
3 hours…..or 180 minutes….or 10,800 seconds….
….But definitely no more sleeps ;-)
I’ve just sat and watched Sportscene. IMHO it’s not a penalty for Killie. There’s not enough contact and Brophy’ s embellishment was as farcical as Morelos’ up at Pittodrie recently. Neither do I think it’s a red card for the Killie keeper. Again, there’s simply not enough contact there. It was a stupid petulant flick out that allowed Muir to get the red card out.
Re: flag burning outside Hun pub.. remember Drop the dead donkey? Where reporter would setup incidents to film? Any chance journalists did this by themselves?
nice to see deflections about Sectarian ands terrorist chanting(?) masking comments about fixed matches!
Billybhoy
Yes but Candeias is definitely a red card and the only incident that would effect the tribute act.
This is why our media are blanking the incident.
FOOL TIME WHISTLE on 21ST FEBRUARY 2019 2:09 PM
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That statement is pure baloney.
They could eradicate the sectarian chanting in a heartbeat if they so wished.
Linfield/Cliftonville game a few years ago – both sets of supporters engaging in sectarian singing – announcement over the tannoy – if the singing/chanting doesn’t cease, the referee will abandon the game – it stopped immediately.
All this carry on is primarily due to the fact that a sizeable proportion of Scottish society cannot handle the fact that Celtic are in the ascendancy, at the detriment of whatever entity plays out of Ibrox.
Deluded supremacists.
If we continue to be successful, the entire place could implode.
10 is everything.
HH. ?
Just one more thing, (as Columbo would often say) the biased, cheating referees appointed by the SFA are at the epicentre of the problem.
This issue must be addressed along with all the other nonsense. The referees are are one of biggest problems in Scottish football.
Gone.
HH. ?
Tim Horton
Good post, the complacency from a large number of our supporters is bewildering and they really haven’t been paying attention.
We dropped 14 points from our last 12 games last season which included 2 victories against the tributes.
I’ve seen Hearts at Kilmarnock and Motherwell and was impressed and their normally much weaker away.
Do we really expect to get a fair crack at Tynecastle?
Our last two away games at St Johnstone and Kilmarnock we got the job done……. just.
We need to keep winning, if we can win the next 2 games, we will be hard to catch imo.
16 ROADS. on 21ST FEBRUARY 2019 3:14 PM
Imagine this scenario, they bring in the rule you suggest, sectarian sing stops or the game gets abandoned.
We’re beating them 4-0 at Ibrokes, almost as one the huns start chanting the billy boys, match abandoned. It could happen.
FOOL TIME WHISTLE
SFA
We will seek further discussions in light of the most recent events to maintain the momentum for change.”
They are at least funny.
They have hired a venue and are in the process of procuring the necessary equipment for the summit/whitewash.
https://bestreviews.com/best-brooms
‘singing’ but you knew that. ;-)
FUBAR
Easy enough to prevent such by saying result stands if the losing fans are the guilty party.
Though i.m sure some Scottish churnalist would claim he heard a Celtic fan coughing an IRA song.
Sid
I’ve just seen the lunge by Candyass. It is indeed a red card. Odd that it didn’t make the cut for the highlights package.
Hmmmm
FAN-A-TIC
They’d probably play it through the loudspeakers, ;-)
F.U.B.A.R.BHOY on 21ST FEBRUARY 2019 3:34 PM
Good point.
Never thought of that.
HH. ?
TIMHORTON on 21ST FEBRUARY 2019 1:53 PM
after sundays game, some on here thought the league was done and dusted. after last night i dont think so, they are after us
Said same last night…..
Maradominic-Drop the Dead Donkey,brilliant programme,and very apt these days
I have just looked at the Brophy incident too for the first time and I think its an 80-90% penalty.
Any defender who does that i.e. puts an arm round an attacker who has gotten in behind him, will have a foul awarded against him.
Outside the penalty box that is given as a foul, therefore, it is a pen. Brophy was also in a position to get a dhot off before Goldson could close on him so a goal scoring opportunity was also prevented.
Drop the Dead Donkey
or
A post match scapegoat hunt after Celtic drop points.
BTW
Looks like Kev Jungle is back with us under a new name.
SFTB
Would it have been given by the same ref if it was Brophy holding Worral at the opposite end?
I think we all know the answer to that.
Was it not Muir who was behind the goal in cup final who with McLean ignored the most obvious penalty and red card of all time?
Born a hun and does his best to live up to it.
Billy bhoy
The Candeias incident has not even got a mention in match reports in the Scotsman and Herald the two I’ve read, unsure of others.
They want the player for pittodrie so all the media have Level 5 instructions hoping the compliance officer ignores.
Yet all they want is treated equally lol.
SID on 21ST FEBRUARY 2019 3:30 PM
We dropped 14 points from our last 12 games last season which included 2 victories against the tributes.
it was 13 actually, and five of them were after we’d wrapped up the league.
I think any complancency comes from people thinking that there’s nothing in either team’s form at the moment that suggests we’ll drop 8 more points than they will. We’ve got first team players to come back from injury, they’re completely reliant on one player who’s going to get suspended again before the end of the season.
Not that I won’t be worrying until the league’s won
My take on the big calls yesterday
Brophy – defender had his arms around his waist … 100% penatly.
Keeper sending off …. wasn’t sure as the video I saw wasn’t clear…. but based on the video posted on here this morning, looks like a red card to me.
Candeias tackle … looked bad from the video I saw yesterday, but, like the keeper’s card, I would like to see a better video off it first. Does anyone have a link to the foull?
Thanks.
COSY CORNER BHOY on 21ST FEBRUARY 2019 2:08 PM
Thanks to the generosity of One Malloy(Hugh)and his lovely wife (Sheila) myself and BMCUWP late of this parish have tickets for the game?
Not only that but they refused to allow me to pay for mine and said it was their birthday present to me for my 80th
This CQN fraternity is absolutely magnificent ???
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Tonight I am hoping that Pat in the Hat will vanquish the Bat…….
See you and have an amazing time, ya big gent that you are.
‘Love’ ©️SOAL
HH JG
As for Alan Muir ,who can forget his performance at Motherwell when Celtic were neck and neck with Aberdeen.
https://youtu.be/xffTh316onw
Two stone wall penalties denied, guy is a cheat, this is why changes are a must.