There’s lessons for us all in how one St Mirren player caught the virus, forcing his flatmate, a Hamilton Accies player, to isolate, shortly before three staff at Hamilton tested positive. While we will never know for sure if these cases were linked, it is very likely. The virus remains a risk to our health and incomes. A lack of symptoms during the early incubation period allow it to flit between players who train together and therefore who face each other.
The health consequences for players are likely to be less significant than for society in general, they are young with few of the comorbidity markers, but the nature of their work makes them more vulnerable to infection than many of us.
Any innocuous link outside players’ sporting bubble can lead to multiple club contagion. Teams need to manage this risk by controlling what staff do at home, prohibiting social interactions and maintaining social distance between staff while indoors. Adherence to these practices is a prerequisite to winning the league.
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Bognorbhoy
The reason managers keep picking James Forrest is that he is an excellent football player.
He can be inconsistent though, and should not be exempt from warranted or justified criticism, when his own high standards drop.
Didn’t see the West Ham – Charlton match last but the ‘London Football Scene’ website did and noted that Alfie Doughty “was one of the few positives for Charlton” and asking “could the youngster be a Premier League player in the making?”.
In the making. Mmm as Paul67 was wont to say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vwjK4YAAuA&ab_channel=TheRebelCollective
HH
Leaked team news ?
Forrest
https://twitter.com/oakroyd/status/1306165885628022785?s=21
I reckon if James Forrest, kissed his badge, jumped into the crowd , picked up a megaphone, cemented a couple of left backs that might get some off his back.
Always been a JF fan , sure he’s got faults, if he didn’t he’d be gone by now.
Celtic Mac
I watched some of the Burton v Villa game last night and was interested in how many ex SPL players were playing for Burton
Lawless (ex Livi), Hemmings (ex Dundee, Rangers), Edwards (ex Herrts, Thistle)
Better money in League One than SPL?
DELANEYS DUNKY on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2020 10:11 AM
Big Jimmy
Brilliant mate.
Sounds like your hun burd did you a favour, by dumping you.
Bullet dodged 👍😜😂
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Cheers mate, but she wasnt a bad looking Hun Burd ( A sexy wee blonde)…but unknown to her…I also had TWO other Burds on the go at the same time…one of them I had known for over 4 years…since 1994 ( who I first met in Bairds Bar)…and another older English Burd who also happened to be a rich widow….( a very recent widow)…when I met her around September 1998, so I wasnt in short supply of “Loving” LOL !
In fact I was to meet yet another Burd in June 1999, in a city centre Pub…and we got married in November 1999…and the reception was in The Celtic Club on London Road. At the time of meeting this Burd…the rich widow was a distant memory…as was the wee Bluenose Burd …but I was still seeing the Burd that I had first met in 1994 in Bairds.
I was usually a very naughty Bhoy for most of my days LOL.
HH
Back in and just as well !
My comment at 9:42am was meant in jest.
As SFTB so adroitly said:
` Reluctant to focus on the negative maybe, but incapable of criticism- no he is not.`
That is how I see myself re Celtic and I have given my reasons for adopting that approach.
MadMitch
“JF (Old) now being defended by data — there is a reason why data is the lowest form of human comprehension.”
The main reason being that it is not.
It is the necessary counter to those with gut instinct certainties who cannot recognise their own confirmation biases. Without data, you are hunting blind and the only conclusions you reach are the populist ones- ” well that’s what everyone thinks- so it’s settled- the earth is flat!”
As for “how often does he take the ball facing his own keeper” or “how often does he pass the ball backwards”, your answer, without any data, is too often.
That just begs the question, how often is too often?
Any player’s default position is to receive the ball with ball protection as the aim, therefore your start position is to be closed off (i.e. facing backwards) so that you can resist the first tackle from a nearby defender (and when you are playing 9 man defences, there is often a nearby defender). Only when you know that you can tame the ball without challenge do you change that default position for receiving the ball and open up your body to face forward.
The best player I ever saw at mastering this issue was Xavi, who used the half turn to great effect, starting in the closed position and opening up in the same movement because he knew he had the touch to tame th ball AND move it forward. But, even Xavi made careful use of the pass back if he knew the closing opposition player was good enough or, more likely, too close to ensure he would retain possession if he moved to the open position.
The best I saw at CP was Naka. If he received the ball early enough to tame it, SPL defenders just stood off him, frightened to tackle him as he would just make a fool of them. However, as often happened, if Naka received a ball with a defender close enough to smash him as he received possession, he would generally lose possession.
And JF (old), just like Naka, but unlike Xavi, has to take into account the unique interpretation of tackling rules allowed by SPFL refs in our “blood and snotters” league. If you open up the ball to a tackler who is close enough , they smash you taking the ball and your shins with them. If you protect the ball, then it is the fleshier parts of your body (backside and thighs) which bear the brunt and reduce the risk of serious injury.
Now receiving the ball in a closed position does not make a back pass inevitable; it just keeps that ball retention option open to you. James can, and does , protect the ball and ride a tackle, moving across the pitch until he can open up and become more forward thinking.
The only way you evaluate whether the player makes the correct decision is by evaluating the outcomes (that means data and stats again). Was the ball retained? Was a pass made successfully?Did it go forward, sideways or backwards? Did it end up as a positive move even if a back pass was used at one or two stages of the move?
But, if you prefer to rely on gut instinct, confirmation bias and faulty reconstructed memories, fair play to you, but you leave no room for debate, only an exchange of retorts.
I remember a European game where Pukki got heavy criticism for being under-involved and disinterested (sic). I had a close up view of the hapless Finn that night (I was not in my usual seat) and I saw a player busting his gut to no good effect. To those who argued that he had not tried a leg, I was able to show that he had actually run farther than all others in our front line. His problem that night was not willingness or lack of effort, which are what we usually decry our players for when applying gut instinct, it was lack of effectiveness.
Now, I am prepared to drop Jamesie. I selected Frimpong in his place, pre-match you will recall. I did so because I thought Frimps deserved the place not because I thought James needed dropping. Neil Lennon agreed with us both on the right sided decision but he found more of a case for including James on the left, rather than Elyounoussi or Christie or Ntcham or Taylor. Neil wil have based that decision on a number of factors (fitness, training form, injury, distance travelled in international duty) and will have included data on distance run (effort) and effectiveness. The work of Celtic By Numbers, the sites that show distance run, heatmaps and effectiveness are all used to good effect by modern coaches, who know the limitations of their eyes and memory, and jow easily they are distorted by confirmation bias nad pre-existing prejudices.
James produced an assist for the pen and first goal, and won the free kick that led to the second. That’s the data that supports effectiveness. If you don’t include it in your analysis, you are reduced to the Sydney Tim School of Logic- James did not mean all those assists and goals, they were merely sclaffs and mishits, made with his head down and his eyes shut.
And I think he expects to convince listeners with that level of analysis. :-)
DELANEYS DUNKY on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2020 10:26 AM
Bognorbhoy
The reason managers keep picking James Forrest is that he is an excellent football player.
He can be inconsistent though, and should not be exempt from warranted or justified criticism, when his own high standards drop.
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Spot on.
Jamesgang @10:43 am
As it is not new any more, it is now simply called The Blane Valley ! When did they drop the `New` ?
Jamesy,brilliant player,with fantastic,goals/assists record.
Jamesy at the moment,a shadow of that player.Looking a bit lost.
Maybe the coaching a lot to blame for this.He is not a wing back,he is a winger.Facing at the same time,his own goal too many times is not what he is good at.A blip that will soon be rectified by Lenny,I hope.Trying to fit all your best players in at the same time,regardless of positions,not the best tactics for team,or the players.
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HH
coneybhoy
Both League 1 and League 2 agreed a salary cap for the season(s) ahead.
League 1 £2.5 mill pa, average £1700 pw
League 2 £1.5 mill average £1000 pw
Money’s too tight to mention….
SFTB
It is a wee bit sad that in spite of the many excellent points to support your argument, your conclusion was that which drew the greatest response from me :-)))
`And I think he (ST) expects to convince listeners with that level of analysis. :-)))
I am still smiling :-)))
How do you change your blog moniker.I want to change mines from Turkeybhoy,to,The Walloper who does not live in Scotland.
DELANEYS DUNKY on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2020 9:47 AM
SFTB
You do not need to ask me that question T.
You know yourself who said posters are.
James Forrest is a huge favourite of mine, but I am not as blinkered as some posters, who do not criticise James, when his performance drops from his usual high standards. Calmac is another who falls into that category.
You are damn tooting, Delaneys Dunky.
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Ave Ave
Constructive Criticism is not a bad thing, it also keeps certain Individuals on their toes.
Hot Smoked
The ‘New’ was dropped around about 1990/91. I remember, as it was around about the time I got married.
Who will be the target for the interlopers tonight.
Forrest is the early favourite.
Taylor whether he plays or not.
Eddie is starting to get a few tuts about body language.
Julian and or ajer
New one legs gone broon.
The manager
Assistant manager
McGregor.
Hurry up with the leaked team.
Celtic to win by 4.
Peace Be With You, Henry Joe.
DD
Thanks.
Cheerio for now.
sonsoferin
Jack Hendry, who I’d hoped would get some game time in the hometown of Melbourne Mick but it was not to be, is in fact now playing in Belgium, for KV Ostende. Good luck to our Bhoy there. As is (So long) Marian Shved now on loan at KV Mechelin. That said at least they are guaranteed European football after Christmas.
Celtic Mac
Noticed Neil Lennon partially blaming Bolingoli for our Champions league exit.
Ironically, Bolingoli could play Champions League football this season, with his new Turkish club.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-kent-54158100?__twitter_impression=true
Squirrel required.
Quick. Roll out the Spitfires.
Their engines will still be warm from last time.
SAINT STIVS on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2020 11:12 AM
Who will be the target for the interlopers tonight.
Forrest is the early favourite.
Taylor whether he plays or not.
Eddie is starting to get a few tuts about body language.
Julian and or ajer
New one legs gone broon.
The manager
Assistant manager
McGregor.
Hurry up with the leaked team.
Celtic to win by 4.
Eddie bless him, is a Nonchalant Character it’s in his make up/DNA. He always looks disinterested, but he is not, the exact opposite. Anyway tonight, we should field the exact same Team as we did in Dingwell, with the exact same formation, (3-5-2) & with the exact same approach & level, we showed in the second half of the match @ Dingwell on Saturday, & we should collect the important three points, in which is an important SPL Season for us all. Go-On-The-Bhoys & Get-It-In-There.
on Saturday
When discussing James Forrest the number of goals he scores in a season should not be overlooked, indeed many are scored at crucial times in games. To be honest, while there are times he looks out of sorts he somehow manages to wade in with a few . Not many wingers can match his tally and I should imagine his goal threat is heavily considered when team sheets are chosen.
Wouldn’t be surprised if St Mirren chinned us for £82,500,the money lost for a live Sky game.
A wee tune by one of my favourite ever bands, to get us warmed up for tonight’s match.
Fancy a repeat of Saturday’s scoreline 0-5.
https://g.co/kgs/RwqmnM
Bada
The sky contract is with the league not with Celtic. Tonight’s game could have been broadcast by them but they’ve chosen not to.
best of luck tonight Celtic
go to work
Celtic Mac
Think jack hendry scored the winner at the weekend
Gene- but the original game was live,so it’s money lost to both clubs
DELANEYS DUNKY on 16TH SEPTEMBER 2020 11:21 AM
Celtic Mac
Noticed Neil Lennon partially blaming Bolingoli for our Champions league exit.
Ironically, Bolingoli could play Champions League football this season, with his new Turkish club.
Delaneys Dunky & Lenny, never mind about El Senoir MBomboClott, he is rubbish anyway, & will
no doubt drop some big clangers/flaws with his inaccurate passing of the ball, in high profile matches.
Which will then no doubt be shown, on future Comedy Program Shows.
What we should be looking @, is bringing in a no nonse approach/& take no prisoners, solid Leftback.
Who can not only clear their Lines properly, but also can read the Game & make good passes as well.
If we want to seriously have any chance of qualifing for the CL Group Stages next Season 2021/22.
After all, as the “Media” are quick to point out, we do have a CL Standard Stadium.
Bada
I would think that neither Celtic nor st mirren are preventing sky from broadcasting tonight.
Also think the sky contract with the league would give them a number of games per season without having to name them – apart from the 4 games against newclub
AKBW
Absolutely.
I am not a scout, but I really fancy the Ajax Academy graduate at PSG, Bakker.
He could do the job at left wing back, that would create a better balance in our team, and is a far superior player than Greg Taylor.