CQNers are a new type of community. We mostly, though not always, share interests but we are anchored in commons values. The achievements of the community are incredible. We’ve made friends, some of whom are no longer with us and who shared their darkest hours on these pages, while others were lost in an instant.
Those lost friends now have a memorial stone outside Celtic Park, a credit to their memory. Thanks to all who contributed.
You and I have been talking Moneyball for six years. We’ve been convinced of the merits since then, most of the world is now, so it’s gratifying to know a manager would rather lose his job than succumb to the new orthodoxy. Very brave of Mark Warburton, he has the makings of an ideal Newco manager.
Last week I wrote that I expected Newco to appoint Stuart McCall as permanent manager. He was a reliable choice, had taken Motherwell to two consecutive second place SPL finishes, knew the task, had spent years scrapping around for free transfers and, let’s face it, is a ‘Real Rangers Man’. I would not have looked past him.
Warburton managed Brentford for two years, winning promotion in the first and taking them to the play-off semi-finals in April, but Brentford is the story of owner, Matthew Benham, who has invested close to £50m in the club. Warburton is fortunate to find two consecutive owners intent on spending £50m living the dream……. you do have the money for him, Dave, don’t you?
Fans Against Criminalisation issued this statement yesterday:
“Our view is that from the outset, despite the claims from the then First Minister, Alex Salmond, that he ‘wished to build consensus’ the only support that the government has managed to attract for the Act is that of the Police Service of Scotland and the only consensus that is being built is that of the opposition to this dreadful, unworkable and pernicious legislation.
Their claim of public support for the Act is based on figures which show that people want action on sectarianism and not specifically that they support this Act. They also conveniently ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of sectarian offences (ie those with religious aggravation) do not take place in football grounds [http://www.gov.scot/resource/0042/00424865.pdf]. In addition, many of the incidents for which people have been charged under the Act are unrelated to sectarianism.
We deplore:
• The action of the Scottish Government in giving off-the-record press briefings alleging that the Act will stay in place. This undermines the integrity of the Review process and the role of Parliament and its members.
• The use of the statistics from a highly skewed YouGov poll commissioned by the government to mislead the public.
• The continued reference by the Government to the Stirling research as being the ‘Review’ which the legislation requires them to have is an attempt to prevent the full and transparent examination of the Act which the public in general, and football fans in particular, expect and are entitled to. These claims are made despite a statement issued by the University of Stirling on Friday (12/6/15) afternoon that the work produced by their team is not ‘the review’ and their work cannot be interpreted as ‘an endorsement of the Act’.
We note:
• The conviction rate for this Act over the whole period of its existence is standing at 22%. This compares with a conviction rate for rape (itself notoriously low) in 2013-14 of 41%
• The scale of the resource devoted to enforcing this Act (including a specialised unit of the police service) which necessarily diverts finances and manpower from the detection and prosecution of more serious offenders.
We pledge:
• To continue to oppose this legislation by all peaceful means until it is repealed.
We call on the Government to listen to football fans; to listen to those whose lives have been drastically affected by a piece of legislation which is a stain on the justice system of Scotland.”
We have the most right-wing left-wing government in history.
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ernie lynch
13:22 on 15 June, 2015
foghorn leghorn
11:11 on 15 June, 2015
I’d be surprised if any SNP politician responds with anything other than a stock reply approved by their leaders.
They are not allow to dissent from the party line.
So they might be assiduous in dealing with correspondence, but to no purpose.
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i fear you maybe right
but i doubt any party’s polticians would be able to hold moral high ground on how they deal with us
politicians of all hues are more self serving than public serving
thomthethim…………….unfortunately I’m not in the VIP class.
Many Thanks Paul67 :-)
hankray
13:44 on
15 June, 2015
thomthethim…………….unfortunately I’m not in the VIP class.
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Don’t be silly. We are all VIP class. It comes with supporting Celtic and blagging a wee green wristband that gets you into the fancy lounges.
Earnie Lynch at 13:22,
If so, then they may well have learned it from watching those fine practitioners of it – Labour.
The only sense that I can make of Sevco’s new manager appointment is that he will be au fait with the intricacies of shifting currency around, no matter from whence it arrives.
Unfortunately, King has removed any hope of financial scrutiny by delisting and the SFA have been bought and paid for long ago.*
*allegedly.
Foghorn Leghorn
From this morning and apologies for the delay in replying. I was working so was not on the blog.
I have no political axe to grind. I stressed especially the SNP in my post as they are the party content with the status quo re the offensive behaviour bill, while all other political parties have stated that they wish to repeal the act.
My experience, which covers governments and politicians of all political hues, is that if they receive standard template letters asking them to do something they’re not inclined to do, or asking them to change policy or make a contentious or difficult decision, then they’re likely to dismiss these standard letters as being the work of an organised campaign or pressure group.
Individualised letters have more of an impact in my view in persuading MSPs of all parties that there is a major problem that needs addressed.
That advice would be the same regardless of whether it’s the SNP, labour the Tories or the screaming loony party that’s in charge.
Starry Plough .
Charlie Whitehead !
A blast from the past . Long time no hear . I have an Lp ( Charlie Whitehead and The Swamp Dogg Band ). A US thrift store purchase . Will dig it out and give it a twirl.
The Clash from the Black Market Clash EP (or cassette in my case)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtYaWt-AGB4
None of your Super Black Market Clash CD tat here!
Found this on Sevcomedia (I’ve corrected it for grammar and spelling):
“Sad to say that the flip side of all the hype of Warburton’s arrival and the new plans he will have does mean some bad news.
Stevie from IT will be getting the chop as head of Scouting.”
Hilarious – the guy thinks they still have an IT department!
If any MSP gets a letter from a constituent they will deal with it by passing it on to the minister responsible. That way they can reassure their constituent they have raised the issue at the highest level.
The Minister will deal with it by passing it to a civil servant to draft a reply. For a controversial issue there will be a standard position statement already drawn up and that will be cut and pasted into the reply.
ThompsonTwin
13:09 on 15 June, 2015
FAC say – We have the most right-wing left-wing government in history.
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Just to be clear, FAC haven’t said that. The last line in Paul’s article is his own interpretation.
https://twitter.com/The_SSP_/status/610173733035225089
apologies if posted,The SSP on OBA act.
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Enjoyed Hugh Macilvanneys radio slot yesterday.
I do hope he comments on governance within our game here in Scotland,
a comment on media reporting,its qualities,its truth, would be welcome too.
:-)
HH
GORDON J
When did we become so cynical about our representatives?
Did it maybe coincide wi a time that they became unrepresentative of their constituents?
It’s not a modern thing. About forty years ago Billy Connolly stated that we shouldnae vote for any of them as it just encourages them.
When politicians at whatever level and of whatever hue are judged similar to estate agents-Nae offence,Tinytim-you know you have a problem.
Still,at least it proves the old maxim that whatever blights The U.S. blights The U.K. soon after.
People were talking here about the film ‘Jurassic World’.
It reminded me of one of the great lines that came out here lst year during the WC when Costa Rica got through to the last 8.
‘Well done, Costa Rica. Doesn’t seem that long since they had that big problem with dinosaurs’.
Another favourite was when I asked for advice about clearing out personal data from an old pc.
The reply was – ‘Put it on the steps of Edmiston Drive with a post-it – This computer contains EBT information’.
We should try to collate some of these one-liners – there are so many brilliant ones posted on CQN and then forgotten.
Yesterday provided another classic when I think TBB was talking about buying second hand golf clubs.
‘Are you sure it’s an old club and not a new one?’
BMCUP,
I’m not sure whether politicians have changed drastically or whether we just have better means of finding out exactly what they do now.
Politics is certainly a much more centrally controlled business that it used to be. That goes for pretty much every party. There is less room for the maverick, the original thinker. Any disagreement will be portrayed as a split rather than a debate. And if you want promotion you have to toe the line, parrot the briefings and stay on message.
I also think that the increasing prevalence of those whose only life experience ever comes through politics is an issue, creating a bubble in which they operate.
In his “column” today in The Dundee Courier, Alex Salmond has a full page telling us how successful The Act has been and how popular it is.
If anyone is interested in reading it, contact Paul 67 for my e mail and I will screen grab it to you.
I have tried and you can’t access on line or else I would post the link.
Or, if there is another way to get it on here, then please let me know.
A nonsense article from Salmond by the way.
PeteTheBeat
We should try to collate some of these one-liners – there are so many brilliant ones posted on CQN and then forgotten.
It would take some time there have been a lot of seriously laugh out loud posts over the years
but would make for funny reading
HH
GORDON J
Correct,mate. Toe the line,get a sinecure.
Party politics now is all about control,no room for the maverick.
And to drag it back to football,that has been the same for about the same length of time.
Stick to the system,do what you’re told.
Scurrilous hillbilly post makes me laugh everyday.
It is strange that the BBC can state that “St Mirren…..midfielder John McGinn has instigated legal action over a training ground prank”.
If it is OK for the BBC to take a point of view (a prank) on this then is it OK for me to say that the word on the Paisley streets at the time of the incident was that following some robust tackling during training, one St Mirren player deliberately stabbed another with a training spike?
I found it strange that the Paisley Polis didn’t take any interest in it at the time. Probably too busy sitting outside Greggs or the local chippy eating their pies.
Leftclick
You are absolutely correct.
Control and use of the Albion Car Park is one of the planning conditions for use of the club deck at Ibrox. If that is taken outwith their control and they have no right to use it then they cannot use the club deck without being in breach of their planning permission.
Of course if a third party were to own it then no doubt they would demand a hefty rental!
SONMESQUEUNCLUB
Is this it?
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/politics/alex-salmond/video-are-rangers-owners-causing-bad-fan-behaviour-alex-salmond-reckons-there-s-a-link-1.884167
Som mes que un club @ 14:23 on 15 June, 2015
Is this it?
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/politics/alex-salmond/video-are-rangers-owners-causing-bad-fan-behaviour-alex-salmond-reckons-there-s-a-link-1.884167
PAISLEYBHOY
Training sessions are filmed nowadays. I’m sure the truth will out. No need for a lens cap now…
dena29 –
‘It would take some time there have been a lot of seriously laugh out loud posts over the years
but would make for funny reading
HH’
Certainly a book of them would be the ideal Christmas stocking filler.
I’m worried
If warburton is the top man at £1brox .. Will he bring sly Stallone along with him ?
Hi guys.
That’s the article. I tried to access when I read the article on the digital version and it wasn’t there earlier this morning.
Thanks for posting.
PeteTheBeat
Certainly a book of them would be the ideal Christmas stocking filler.
:-))
HH
Sky sports hailing warburton as there first English manager !!!! Take it Stuart mccall disnae count then ???
The Clumpany
Here goes!
Haha he’s got a good CV, the whole 2 years worth haha
The lies begin
Warchest warchest we want a warchest:))
The Clumpany!
Nailed it!
about transfer targets and war chests will be declared to be matters ‘for another day‘. If the board say they will do whatever it takes, then that should be good enough.
Mr Warburton will confirm that there have been ‘discussions and assurances about transfer funds’ but will refuse to be drawn on details…
A joyful and compliant media will simply absorb and repeat.
Sips
Laughing at you calling me a wee dicator
A month after moving to Antigo I was addressed as a little hitler in a local bar .. Having bumped into a 6′ 5″ guy from the factory . I laughed and said ” most people are little compared to you mate ”
That was before I met a few of the big bhoys on here who I look like jimmy krankie next to
Btw .. The big lad in Wisconsin remains a good friend 13 years later
A question to Weary Dave.
Did you speak to Walter or Ally?
WTF would Ally bring to the party?
LOL LOL
Hibs still 5\2.
Typical Stock Exchange trader…….hahahahahahaha