We’ve been trailing the Ukraine-Russia Joint League plans, which was due to commence early next year, since they were first mooted in 2012. Political will, met commercial money, and a football desire to put the merger of two large national leagues into the schedule.
Needless to say, these plans are off the agenda, although it’s easy to look back now and see why the political will was so forthcoming. Note to Westminster, if you want to indulge in a bit of togetherness, put your shoulder behind building a relevant nationwide sporting infrastructure.
Instead of a Joint League, what the football authorities in Russia, Ukraine and Zurich are left with is a bit of a mess. Crimean clubs, Sevastopli and Tavriya are midway through a season in the Ukrainian Premier League. Russian minister for Sport, Vitaly Mutko, said, “From the beginning of next season Sevastopol and Tavria wiil join the Russian Premier League”, which will expand to accommodate them.
He told Russian media he had received assurances from Fifa that they would accommodate the change, adding, “We want a friendly relationship with Ukraine and do not want to disrupt their current championship. When the season finishes in May we will be back in discussions to formulate the way forward.”
The Russian media report that Ukrainian FA are less interested in maintaining friendly relations with their eastern neighbours and have written to Fifa and Uefa asking them to ban Russian football if they take clubs from the Ukrainian FA without permission. This claim has not been mentioned in the Ukrainian press, or on the Ukraine FA website – despite this being cited as the source in Russia, so it cannot be verified.
Clubs moving between national associations is a common occurrence, happening every year somewhere in the world, but I’m unaware of it happening without the approval of both FAs. Notwithstanding that, there is zero chance Uefa or Fifa will block this transfer. Two member clubs are in a problematic situation, they have a league which wants to take them. Uefa will approve.
Conspiracy theorists everywhere were confounded this morning when one of Europe’s most connected clubs, Bayern Munich, were issued with a partial stadium closure for their home Champions League quarter final against Manchester United, after fans displayed an offensive banner against Arsenal in the last round. Homophobia was their offence of choice.
Seville – The Celtic Movement:
“After the game I asked a policeman the way to the station and he just pointed ahead…walked on to find myself in Porto Bus area…walked back – asked another Policeman and he pointed other way”.
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maestro-number8
The centenary jersey was my first proper full kit. Loved it.
The 1985 kit was another cracker. My first cup final. My wife bought me the retro jersey last year.
On the subject of away kits we have had some howlers. I liked the lime green one. Had that one as a Bhoy. I think the black one we had mid 90’s with the sort of shield badge and green pinstripes was one of our best. Soft collar and a very comfy jersey to wear. It also had the added bonus of no sponsor.
LB
Jungle Jim
I agree. My main beef with the referees is their double standards regarding yellow cards for Celtic players and our opponents. There are not so many blatantly bad decisions against us at present. But if Sevco reach the premier league ….?
But you’ll never know compassion without education.
bournesouprecipe
I had that full kit. The jersey was terrible but I did like the shorts. We should never ever allow a sponsor in blue on the Hooped jerseys.
LB
It seems that this season the linsemen have had a much greater influence. I wonder what they talked about in La Manga?
And burying your head in the sand will educate you that under the sand there is sand.
I need a female partner for this, anyone up for it, I think we could beat these two.
Badminton: All you can eat smashes rally.
http://wimp.com/badmintonsmashes/
Beebawbabbity very good post and I think the present Labour lot are the poorest in my lifetime and not one of them is a natural leader. I would not be surprised if, after a Yes vote Nicola Sturgeon leads a centre left party in 2016. The one politician that I enjoy listening to and would make a good leader of a coalition is Patrick Harvie from the Green (of course) party.
bournesouprecipe, 11:30
Any worn by the now dead team
Billy Bhoy 05
11:31 on 25 March, 2014
Well just supposing for arguments sake that the bookies have got it right, and it’s a no vote, how long before the next referendum?
25 years (ie a generation), like what Mr Salmond has said ?
Sista gettin jiggy with it.
Nun astounds judges and audience with her performance of “No One”.
http://wimp.com/nunperformance/
BSR
Spot on!
My birthday – just after the EC Final between Real Madrid and Eintracht Frankfurt.
My Mother bought me a pair just like that – said: Di Stefano on the box (though I now suspect that this might have been stamped on it by a Del Boy Trotter type retailer).
:-)
bournesouprecipe …………….agree !
Do your workmates try to avoid talking to you when possible?
Is your wife just not interested in what you have to say anymore?
Do the guys in your local shuffle away from you as you order your fave tipple from the bar.
Well if that’s you, why not come to CQN where you can spout all the unadulterated keech you can muster.
Cqn- The place to come and give your tangible acquaintanceso peace.
1 Kris Commons 26 40
2 Anthony Stokes 12 39
3 Georgios Samaras 8 27
4 James Forrest 7 27
5 Charlie Mulgrew 6 35
Livibhoy…………..yeah that black one you refer to was nice too, with McStay and Collins running the show in midfield.
HH
Ernie Lynch
I agree with you that the bookies tend to get it right but the odds have reduced considerably: maybe you should get your dosh on now before they again lower the odds
Billy Bhoy 05
11:46 on 25 March, 2014
So how long should it be before the next referendum?
A light insanity.
I believe your Dad won’t need any prayers but maybe you will at this time. There’ll be plenty of the sort coming your way right from the many good ‘uns on CQN.
Livibhoy
You got a painting in the loft?!!? Cannae believe you were even born when some of those strips were out!!
HH jamesgang
first of the gang to die @ 09.34 hrs.
“i remember the great days stuffing the zombies.this site was a joy.now its all about politics and arguing amongst themselves.boring boring boring.its a football site.at least on hun sites they talk about their team.chuckked it and wont be back.enjoy ur backbiting”
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If you are still about, subconsciously you may have answered your own quandary.
The great days stuffing the zombies are gone and will divide us more than them if they come back. How ironic is that ? IMO sad but true.
Without any cup participation there is undoubtedly a football void, hence the variety of non-football topics. Winning the league does not stimulate or galvanise us the way it should. Actual crowd figure on Saturday will hopefully prove me wrong, but I somehow doubt it.
Arguably although our game may need ” The Zombies” ,some on here and in the greater support will never accept a reincarnation, myself included.
There is really only one long term solution IMO and that is a move of leagues, preferably to England or failing that a European set up.
HH theonlysolutioncsc.
Favourite Tee Shirt
Time to update CQN’s Lexicon, after Schadenfreude the German speakers have this cracking wee word!
Besserwisser
From German. Meaning “knowing better”. And that’s exactly what it refers to, like the more common “smart ass” or “wise ass”, or even “smart elick” (smart aleck). A besserwisser – or wise ass – is a person, often intellectual, or at least pseudo-intellectual, who thinks he or she has more general knowledge about things than most others. It can be correcting language mistakes in grammar and spelling, or it can be within a specific topic like everything from politics, geography and baseball to history and science – anything you can imagine!
Auf Wiedersehen…
Starry…
Liking this old artists impression of what Firhill may look like ahead of the building of their new stand. Quite sure it wasn’t the intention but it just could be the way of the future for stadia in the UK and the kind of stadium that binds the old(safely) and the new:
http://www.themainstand.com/jh%20stand.html
Ernie,
If you think a generation is 25years you obviously haven’t been to Cowdenbeath.
Ernie Lynch
I really don’t think there will be another one. Yogiv has made some interesting points which I tend to agree with. If it’s a No vote Salmond may very well chuck it and Nicola would be the obvious choice to replace him. I also think when we win Salmond will go and Nicola will lead a centre left party….possibly a form of Labour Party, but without the Tory apologists such as Darling
Maestro
I agree the 80s produced the best lookin celtic tops
Also liked the bottle green/silver trim circa 2004
And i thought the last all black tennents strip was cool as fcuk…
B-)
I don`t know how I starting thinking about this but do any of the more mature spporters remember how Jinky used to get the ball early on when playing Rangers and just take the ball for a walk beating anyone who came near him? It certainly brought the Celtic end to life.:-)
I think it was Jock Stein who got him to do it but I can`t think of another player who has done this!
Favourite Away Strip – of all time
starry plough
11:50 on 25 March, 2014
I don’t know why we use the word schadenfreude when there is a perfectly good English word with the same meaning – epicaricacy.
Is there a Besserwisser podium?
If there is I’m claiming it.
WOOFT ….wut a goal.
https://www.facebook.com/andy.bonner.188/posts/10202712865316460
Ernie
“So how long should it be before the next referendum?”
I’d give it at least a fortnight. Give the NO voters an opportunity to have a right good look at themselves.
; )
Sometimes CQN’rs say long words they don’t really understand to make themselves seem more photosynthesis.
ernie
Is that code for Black Pudding?
BSR
Got that one love it….I usually like the one guys make up and stick on their FB pages kidding on it’s the real thing…..did like the 125 anniversary strip…
Kikinthenakas
BEEBAWBABBITY
Sadly I fear for the future of The Labour Party,both in Scotland and in the UK as a whole.
Dreadful policies which have ignored their traditional bedrock support espoused by dreadful leaders.
The party had one chance in my adulthood,and it came in the form of John Smith.
The charlatan who inherited his mantle,well,I clocked him right away and ripped up my card.
If we get the politicians we deserve,we must have been bad in a previous life. No Glenn Hoddle reference,please.
Bsr..
Brilliant :-)
BSR – I forgot about that one which is shocking as I have a retro remake of it. I wore it at the Ajax game this season and it did get some admiring looks.
Bhoylo83…..that was the one worn in the Cup Final in 2004, which was Henrik’s last competitive match, what a performance AGAIN form the King of Kings that day
HH
From the Jewish Post:
By Gary Krupp, President, Pave the Way Foundation
Having endured 2000 years of persecution, Jews may have a justified distrust of Christians. Today some Christians have expressed support for the enemies of Israel, further fueling this potential for distrust. Mindful of this reality, we must also acknowledge those Christian individuals and groups who have made positive efforts in support of Jews. Specifically we should take a look at the Roman Catholic Church’s actions in recent decades, attempting to reverse centuries of hostility towards Jews, in an official capacity. The church’s October 1965 Declaration on the Relation of the Church with Non-Christian Religions (Nostra Aetate) made a clear statement. The document, released by Pope Paul VI and originated by Pope John XXIII before his death, was deliberate and steadfast. The declaration decries all displays of anti-Semitism made at any time by anyone. These powerful words have guided the church’s actions throughout the ensuing decades. The impact of modern papacies since the 1960’s represent important symbolic trends towards friendlier relations in the current era.
Moreover, our work with Pave the Way Foundation (PTWF) has uncovered evidence (including large numbers of documents, news reports and acknowledged historical events) showing that this relationship with the Jewish people was forcefully moved forward far earlier than the 1960’s, by Pope Pius XII (Eugenio Pacelli.) Posted on our website (www.ptwf.org) are numerous original documents and news reports of this surprising reality.
Pacelli’s love for the Jewish people began with his childhood relationship with an Orthodox Jewish friend, Guido Mendes. Young Eugenio attended Shabbat meals at the Mendes home, and learned to speak some Hebrew. He borrowed books of the great Rabbis from his friend. This spiritual link to the origins of Christianity influenced Pacelli’s relationship with the Jewish people, beginning when he entered the priesthood and ultimately ascended to the Seat of St. Peter on March 2nd, 1939. Documents show that it was Pacelli’s direct action from 1917 through 1947 that ultimately led to the creation of the modern state of Israel.
As Pope Pius XII, his directives instructed Catholics worldwide to do everything possible to save the Jews from the onslaught of Nazism. Upon Pacelli’s death in 1958, his successor was the Vatican’s Ambassador to Bulgaria, Archbishop Angelo Roncalli (Pope John XXIII). Carrying his predecessor’s policies forward, Pope John XXIII is today widely regarded as a hero to the Jewish people. Most notably he is praised for his issuance of false baptismal papers and other actions to save Jews during the Shoah. Later in his papacy, he is credited with convening the Second Vatican Council, which culminated with the historic declaration, Nostre Aetate. The declaration absolved Jews of the crime of deicide, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Deicide was historically used to justify atrocities against the Jewish people for centuries, along with the lies of Blood Libel and the Protocols of Zion.
Ultimately, Pope John XXIII died before Nostre Aetate was released. His successor, Pope Paul VI, was another member of the Roman Curia during the wartime papacy of Pius XII, Giovanni Montini. Paul VI announced Nostre Aetate on October 28, 1965.
Pope Paul VI also ordered a team of Jesuit historians to comb through the official diplomatic documents of the WWII wartime Secret Archives, currently closed under canonical seal, to publish the Acts and Documents of the Holy See during the Second World War. These 11 volumes in 12 books identify over 9000 diplomatic documents which, he hoped, would prove that the allegations of his predecessor Pope Pius XII were wrong. The intent was to end the new false allegations, which endangered Jewish – Catholic relations. Pave the Way Foundation asked for and was given permission to digitize this collection along with the Acts of the Holy See 1909-1965. The contents are available to historians on our website http://www.ptwf.org and on the Vatican website: http://www.vatican.va/archive/atti-ufficiali-santa-sede/index_en.htm worldwide to study this important resource.
Most of the Jewish world is more familiar with the next Bishop of Rome, Pope John Paul II, himself a victim of Nazi brutality in his native Poland. (John Paul II succeeded the brief papacy of John Paul I who died soon after his election). Without question the Jewish world has come to acknowledge John Paul II as one of the great Catholic leaders, who further enhanced Catholic-Jewish relations with demonstrated gestures. Most significantly, similar to Pope Pius XII’s formation from his Jewish friend Guido Mendes, John Paul II’s childhood Jewish friend Jerzy Kluger,(PTWF advisor in Italy until his death in 2011) had an historical impact on this great man’s future actions towards the Jewish people.
John Paul instituted normalization with the State of Israel in 1994. He visited Israel March 2000, placing his prayer for forgiveness of Jewish persecution throughout Christian history in the Kotel. He mourned the murdered Jewish martyrs of the Shoah in the Hall of Remembrance at Yad Vashem, and most significantly was the first Pope since St. Peter to visit the Great Synagogue in Rome as gesture of brotherhood. His personal devotion to the Jewish people was quietly pointed out after his death when he remembered the former Chief Rabbi of Rome Elio Toaff in his will. Rabbi Toaff so welcomed Pope John Paul II to the synagogue April 13, 1986 with the words of Psalm 118:26 “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.”
Pave the Way Foundation had the honor of thanking Pope John Paul II with the largest private Jewish audience in history January 18, 2005, where we recognized his historic gestures to the Jewish people and to the State of Israel. We brought 168 Jewish leaders from around the world to thank this great pontiff. A Conservative, Orthodox, and Reform rabbi each blessed the Pope in the Papal palace on that historic day. The video of this historic event is on our website, http://www.ptwf.org . Sadly, this was to be his last major audience as he fell ill 11 days later. vHaving a personal relationship with Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger before he was elected Pope April 19, 2005, gave us the opportunity to discuss Jewish-Catholic, and Vatican-Israeli relations with this wonderfully brilliant, yet shy man. This relationship would prove invaluable with our reaching out to him after his election.
Pope Benedict XVI previously held the post of the president of the Holy office or the sacred congregation for the doctrine of the faith for 24 years. In his capacity, he had the responsibility to write much of the edicts of the church and its relations with the Jewish people and Israel. We knew that, as pope, he would move the church along the same path of reconciliation as his predecessors. Pope Benedict XVI was different, however. His devotion to faith and personal drive caused him to take positions which were controversial but would have a far reaching impact.
May 28, 2006, Pave the Way Foundation was honored to join Pope Benedict during his pilgrimage to Poland and his historic visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau. On that special day when he prayed at the monument to martyrs, a rainbow appeared in the sky over the camp, which seemed to signify G-ds approval of this significant act.
When he made his pilgrimage back home to Regensburg, Germany, his remarks to the Muslim leaders on September 12, 2006, stirred much controversy and even evoked death threats as he condemned the use of religion to justify violence. He publicly quoted the 14th-century Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaiologos. Such a statement took enormous courage, but he said what he believed needed to be said in light of increased worldwide violence in the name of Islam.
One of his important acts caused an extreme negative reaction from the Jewish world on January 21, 2009. Pope Benedict XVI lifted the ban of excommunication against the Lefebvre followers in the illicit Society of Pope Pius X. This act was an attempt to not only unify his church, but also to neutralize this extreme rightwing group of over 1 million breakaway Catholics, and to bring them back into the teachings of the Catholic Church. The pope wanted to put an end to this groups absolute denial of the declaration of the Second Ecumenical Council and especially its objection to the modern church’s relations with other faiths as declared in Nostre Aetate. One of the illicitly ordained Bishops of this group was Richard Williamson who gained notoriety as a holocaust denier.
One difficulty of this action was that no one, including many priests and Bishops, knew that all Benedict’s decree did was to legally allow the Vatican Holy Office to simply talk to this group and to convinced them to accept the dictates of the Vatican Council. The world and many Catholics thought that this community, including Bishop Williamson, was welcomed back to full communion with the Church. This was absolutely incorrect. PTWF acted immediately after this announcement to convince Vatican officials to clarify this misconception, which they did three days later.
The Pope stood steadfast and resolute on demanding the recognition of Jewish Catholic relations. Since this group would not budge on their position, the results of negotiations have failed and the group remains excommunicated from the worldwide Catholic Church. It should also be noted that Bishop Williamson was thrown out of the Society because of his bigoted and ignorant statements on the holocaust. May 11, 2009 Pope Benedict XVI followed in his predecessor footsteps by returning to Israel. During his visit he laid a wreath at Yad Vashem’s memorial in Jerusalem, and said that the Holocaust victims “lost their lives but they will never lose their names.”
May 2010 – PTWF brought the head of AIPAC to personally meet with the pope to ask the Vatican to lodge a protest against the threats from Iran against State of Israel. The Pope personally agreed to do this. Soon after that meeting, the Vatican received a scathing letter back from the Iranian government basically telling them to mind their own business.
March 2, 2011: Pope Benedict XVI Issued a sweeping exoneration of Jews for the death of Christ in his Book “Jesus of Nazareth” released March 10.
In conclusion, when we follow that acts of these historic leaders of the Roman Catholic Church, we can reach only one conclusion. Its unrelenting commitment to improving and continuing Jewish Catholic reconciliation and cooperation can only move forward no matter who the next pope will be. As Jews we should try to embrace Catholics as brothers and sisters, especially since the current level of anti-Semitism has increased worldwide due to the biased media and extremist demonization. As Jews and Israelis we need every friend we can get.