“We have been doing local pilots on mental health and wellbeing in Aberdeen which are working.
“The days of booze and betting sponsorships doesn’t really tie in with healthy living and being at the heart of our communities.
“Football can be a magnet for people, healthy living and mental health, so we need to be at the centre of the community.”
The words of Aberdeen chairman, Dave Cormack, spoken less than two weeks ago. Yesterday, we discovered two of his players tested positive for Covid and a further six have been isolated as all eight attended the pub at the centre of the Aberdeen outbreak.
Mr Cormack, those are empty words. Today, you are a poster boy for poor governance in healthy living, booze and the caring for the heart of your community. Your primary task as a director of a football club is to direct the actions of those you control. What happened?
His interview, in the Daily Record, was full of empty management speech:
“Something I think we have to explore at the centre to drive an agenda.
“What do we want to be? What is our vision? I don’t know what the vision is. We don’t have a branding strategy.
“At the centre, it’s not run like a real company that would have a vision, a branding strategy or goals to drive income.
“The cup is half full, how can we drive things?”
It’s like he had just finished watching a very poor Ted Talk on business growth by an entrepreneur who sold for millions and has no idea how it happened. Or maybe that’s really him.
Scottish football is the great grounder of egos. Think your business background gives you better insight and decision making than those in an industry you’ve never worked in? Buy Hearts or Aberdeen and find out. Think that your experience as on the Conservative Party – Scottish executive while Tony Blair earned a landslide prepared you for anything? Maybe you should become chief exec at Partick Thistle?
Football players have been granted ‘sports bubble’ special status, when they abuse that privilege by hitting busy pubs, they have let us all down.
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DOMINUS VOBISCUM
A warm welcome to CQN.
Love the handle, although my Latin at school never really exceeded Amo, Amas, Amat.
HH.
Gary
Whit! I’ve not had an alcoholic drink since last Mon/Tue, to be rectified in todays bonny weather.
HH
Bada
just favourites – a lot will depend on Stokes he had a habit of changing the game
Greenpiñata
You ask good questions.
My sense is we are just testing way more rigorously so finding more with it.
This is creating a fear and panic way beyond what is proportionate.
That is my not so well informed guess. But I am honestly not sure anyone in any so called position of authority knows better.
The toll of other illnesses not treated due to covid alert, mental health challenges and real financial hardship problems caused by the uncertainty is eclipsing the actual incremental covid issues by some way already.
Dominus Vobiscum
qui hun vobis
Gene
We are set for a great day at old Trafford. Ironically I had a ticket for the Saturday of the OldTrafford Test but will enjoy it just as well at home today.
My money definitely on Engerland. Kinda ironic they have a kiwi superhero in Stokes and a West Indian fast bowling superstar and an Irish one day captain. Flag of convenience eh.
I will be cheering for the Pakistanis though for sure.
Stay Safe
Burnley 78
Recent England sides are riddled with South Africans, Australians, kiwis and going back to Mike dennes
Rugby is even worse
BURNLEY78 on 8TH AUGUST 2020 11:42 AM
Thank you and agreed. We cannot just accept unchallenged what authorities feed us.
It was very interesting that last week the UK government ” leaked” a think tank about curtailing the activities of the over 50’s. This was flung out there for a response.
The actual thinking behind the move was sound. The younger generation have virtually no additional risk ( Compared to normal risk ) from Covid 19. Generally if tested positive most are surprised, if they have symptoms they will usually be mild. An immunity could subsequently be built up on this basis.
Most youngsters have complied with the draconian measures ( justified at the time ) They will not voluntary lock down again.
Society needs to acknowledge this and plan accordingly.
PS : I bet the two Aberdeen players were training normally and were gobsmacked when tested positive.
HH.
DV welcome aboard the mad hoos,
Nil illigitimi et carborundum
Hail hail and another 5 goals tomorrow
KINGLuBO
Tony Greig
Kevin Peterson
Graeme Hick
And so many more.
Tuallangi and of course the Vinopolus at the rugby.
Greenpinata
That is interesting. My wife is actually convinced I have had it back in January I would love to get tested to see if that was so.
Every decision being made by those entrusted is agenda ridden. Every briefing put out has bias. It makes it so hard to read and get to the true answer.
Your under 50s scenario really does make sense and rings very true to me.
10 mins into this Motherwell v Hibs game and no goals – looks like a boring game on a dodgy pitch – as Nish opens the scoring for Hibs 1-0.
PS rerun of 2010 classic on Sky Sports Football instead of St Johnstone v Aberdeen game
GREENPINATA on 8TH AUGUST 2020 11:33 AM
‘Did Leigh Griffiths break any rules ?’
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I think it’s more appropriate to ask whether he followed the instructions issued by Celtic.
(I’m assuming Celtic did issue instructions to everyone, and realising the broad spectrum of intellect among the squad and staff, made sure the rules were simple, clear and concise).
If he didn’t follow instructions then his jacket is on a very shooglie nail.
I think we have to bear in mind that seemingly a dose of Covid19 can result in long term loss of cardio vascular function. For elite sportsmen it probably wouldn’t take much of a reduction to finish their careers.
I am not sure how many football fans ( and players) are aware of what ernie said:
” I think we have to bear in mind that seemingly a dose of Covid19 can result in long term loss of cardio vascular function. For elite sportsmen it probably wouldn’t take much of a reduction to finish their careers.”
Were I a professional footballer, I would be strongly considering whether or not I should be playing at all at the moment.
Sky via Walker and Boyd campaigning for Aberdeen’s next 2 matches versus Hamilton and Celtic to be postponed to protect the integrity of the competition, in the same conversation he admits the league might be called early as this is what happened last season. Celtic take note keep up the winning run at all costs and do not postpone matches.
Ernie,
I would suggest that any illness has potentially knock on effects. Interesting you use the word ” seemingly “.
As for Leigh Griffiths. As a vulnerable employee, Celtic have a duty of care to him. We know he has mental health issues and has never been the most intelligent individual.
Have we explained in language he understands and have we monitored him sufficiently.?
As yet, who knows.
HH.
EMBRAMIKE on 8TH AUGUST 2020 12:13 PM
10 mins into this Motherwell v Hibs game and no goals – looks like a boring game on a dodgy pitch – as Nish opens the scoring for Hibs 1-0.
Where you getting this from. ?????????????????????????????????/
How many footballers have died from Covid 19 ?
How many have suffered career threatening aftermath ?
To say they are an exception to society is a kick in the teeth to NHS workers, bus drivers, shop workers and all key workers who have worked through this pandemic without the additional precautions in place for footballers.
HH.
FAVOURITE UNCLE
Where you getting this from. ?
EMBRAMIKE on 8TH AUGUST 2020 12:16 PM
PS rerun of 2010 classic on Sky Sports Football instead of St Johnstone v Aberdeen game
30 mins to go Hibs up 5-2 – points in the bag ?
Anyway guys, thank for the comradely chat.
I’m off to a birthday party that has been moved from a house ( Due to numbers ) to a socially distancing beer garden.
HH to all.
Fav Unc
Probably from here:
” EMBRAMIKE on 8TH AUGUST 2020 12:16 PM
PS rerun of 2010 classic on Sky Sports Football instead of St Johnstone v Aberdeen game”
Oops !
We are talking bout adults here ?
Everyone has an agenda, bias etc
I think the rules are pretty clear, if you wanna take risks then that’s fine what seems to be missing from the conversation is that selfish actions may well have consequences for others.
Hibs up 6-2 with 25 mins to go – ‘Well supporters leaving in droves (pity !)
GREENPINATA on 8TH AUGUST 2020 12:56 PM
I used the word seemingly advisedly, because nothing is absolutely certain yet. The truth for now though suggests wide ranging, serious long term health problems for many survivors, the extent and severity of which have surprised medics.
A precautionary approach should therefore be adopted until certainty is achieved.
Your attitude appears cavalier and irresponsible.
None of us know enough about LG’s situation to make any meaningful comment.
GO TELL THE SPARTIM on 8TH AUGUST 2020 1:13 PM
‘ what seems to be missing from the conversation is that selfish actions may well have consequences for others.’
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I’d just assumed that was understood.
If a players irresponsibility ruins their career that’s their problem but they only have themselves to blame. My main concern would be the damage they might inflict on others.
Whose Sarri now?
What would happen if a players selfish actions caused another player to be infected. Wouldn’t do much for team spirit would it?
Hibs up 6-2 with 25 mins to go – ‘Well make it 6-6 with a worldy 2 minutes into stoppage time. Defences on top !
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/08/covid-19-immunity-is-the-pandemics-central-mystery/614956/
Fascinating read about the little we know, and the lots we don’t know, about Covid.
HH jg
Burnley78
Ross hall and Nuffield will test
JAMESGANG
‘ The little we know and the lots we don’t ‘. I’m totally surrounded by experts who know it all 😂
Thanks boys .I do not have sky .
PS I do not want it either.
JAMESGANG
Really fascinating reading that, don’t suppose anybody knows
how their body will react if in contact with the virus.
Suppose just hope our antibodies are up for the fight.
Hope you’re not too lonely down there in Engerlund.
H.H. Mick
Rangers ‘reject £16.25m’ Lille bid for Alfredo Morelos.
What must it be like being a hun.?????????????????????//
Favourite uncle (other than me)
These stories are hilarious. A poster on here regularly posts that eventual sale price likely to be south of 4m. I think this is spot on.
He has fewer goals and more timber than when 7m was being quoted.
How gullible man can be