Dave King’s self-flagellation

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Self-flagellation:

SPFL: “Rather than attempt to communicate through the media, it is far more appropriate that any substantive issues are presented to the SPFL board for careful and detailed consideration, based on a sound legal analysis of the facts.”

Translated: Whip.

SPFL: “To date, there has been no such representations to the SPFL board and it notes Mr King’s statement of 30 May.

Translated: Whip.

SPFL: “In its statement of 29 May, Rangers FC claimed “a business relationship”, existed between the SPFL chairman and minority shareholders in a SPFL club, despite no evidence of such a relationship being presented. There is no mention of the previously claimed “business relationship” in the 30 May statement.

Translated: Whip.

SPFL: “In the 30 May statement the central allegation has now become that “there was non-disclosure of the conflict that immediately arose when the SPFL chairman accepted” his appointment as a non-executive director of International News & Media PLC (“IN&M plc”). As with the 29 May statement, no detail was provided to support this allegation.

SPFL: “Within the space of about 24 hours two different and very public allegations have been made against the SPFL chairman without, in either case, an approach first being made to the SPFL with concerns or seeking clarification.”

Translated: Whip.

To you or me this would be embarrassing.  The SPFL know the rules.  In fact, they wrote the rules, so if you are going to go off like a paranoid loon, know your territory, get it right, be consistent, remember what you wrote yesterday before launching into another issue today.

The days when the likes of Jim Farry (or the many who followed him) ran Scottish football are over.  There are professionals in place now.  Murdoch MacLennan has been a senior executive of large companies for decades.  He was a member of the Commission on Scottish Devolution, is an Honorary Professor at the Glasgow University Business School.

Unlike Dave King, he has no criminal convictions.

I would also like to point out some of the reporting on this:

“Record Sport broke the story Doncaster would be standing by MacLennan, despite news emerging of the 69-year-old’s links with Desmond and fellow shareholder Denis O’Brien.”

Ask yourself this: on what basis could the SPFL act against Murdoch MacLennan?  It would be more accurate to say “Neil Doncaster and others on the SPFL board have no choice but to stand by MacLennan as no evidence of wrong-doing whatsoever has been presented.”

And, no evidence of links with Dermot Desmond or Denis O’Brien have been provided.  There are no such links, only innuendo.   King may as well have said, “They go to the same synagogue” [they don’t, of course].

Stay classy, Dave.  I’m sure outbursts like this are a sign that your troubles are all under control, but stop this self-flagellation nonsense.

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  1. myboysnowatim on

    The ‘Rangers’ – the carcass rots and the maggots still gorge.

     

     

    Talk about a blight on a society.

  2. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Twitter conversation between BARCABHOY and Graham Spiers. Courtesy of e-Tims.

     

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    “Did you really mean this ? @GrahamSpiers It’s INCONCEIVABLE that Murdoch MacLennan was impartial,but you have no idea whether Ogilvie & Gordon Smith were not impartial Really ? How do you come to that differentiation, especially given track record suggests the opposite’

     

     

    @GrahamSpiers

     

    FollowingFollowing @GrahamSpiers

     

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    Replying to @Barcabhoy1 @LachieMor1

     

    ‘I don’t live on Twitter 24/7 but I very happily answer Qs when I can. C Ogilivie is a very decent guy who got dragged into a mess at RFC. It can happen to good people. I’ve got no RFC or CFC dog in this dispute, though I know some of you guys pour over all this.

     

     

    Because of conversations I’ve had with both CO and GS, I can assure you, it absolutely is answering your question. Though clearly not in the way you wish. I base my opinions firmly on what I see and hear. I’m sorry if you really want a different answer.”

  3. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 4th June 2018 9:20 am

     

     

     

    CHAIRBHOY

     

     

     

     

     

     

    If you think Spiers’ article in The Times was bad,you should read Jackson in The Record.

     

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    Its starting to get dirty but if I were SPFL I would take up the suggestion Regan made to them in September last year to approach LNS direct with SDM’s testimony to the FTT about how ebts gave Rangers competitive advantage (or however he described it) and ask him if he was aware of it and if not would it have made a difference to his eventual decision.

     

     

    I’d also throw in the documentation obviously not disclosed to him about the wee tax case and the dishonest basis on which that wtc liability was admitted.

     

     

    Perhaps that is what is behind the MacLennan issue, another desperate search for equivalence or an attempt to stop the inevitable if LNS swept aside (as it should be).

     

     

    To be fair to Jackson he does mention DK’s accusations will only rebound on Ogilvie and Dickson and that is what is coming over from Twitter.

     

     

    By all means have an investigation into the COI.

     

     

    At worst it will be an honest mistake, how could Robertson not know of McLennan’s appointment? But lets have a full investigation into how the way Rangers used ebts and their motivation in keeping details secret and not another bloody sham.

  4. Spiersy – the thinking huns Chic Young.

     

     

    When the game in Scotland needed a showboatin’ Blue TKO, those like the bold Spiersy pulled their punches.

     

    Instead of correctly asserting that the huns were liquidated……past tense, and therefore quashing any of the Bobby Ewing continuity guff……him an’ ithers didnae. Bottle crashed, big time. And Scotland knew all too well why their bottle crashed beacause you don’t survive if you embarass the huns with inconvenient truths about the laws relating to financial physics or indeed any other football rules related matters……Safer if everybody moves on for the guid o’ scoddish fitba etc etc…….Sleekit mince, churned ooot by crafty huns in the know or in the pockets of the brown brogue Broamloan brigade…..

     

     

    Spiersy must be anglin’ for a sit down with the scouse louse…

  5. DR Article by Jackson

     

     

    SPFL failing to rap Rangers over Murdoch MacLennan row points to a guilty conscience – Keith Jackson

     

     

    When the SPFL called in the lawyers last week for the fifth set in their statement tennis with Dave King, it was an indication squeaky bum time had come bouncing down Hampden’s sixth floor.

     

     

    Even by Scottish football’s bizarre standards, this public slanging match over Murdoch MacLennan’s links with Celtic has been a curious affair and it remains to be seen if there will be a winner. Or, more importantly, a loser.

     

     

    The very fact solicitors were required to respond to another exocet fired at them from King’s Johannesburg bunker merely added to the whiff of danger that now surrounds this meltdown in relations between the league and one of its biggest clubs. It created a feeling we may be one wrong move from a full-blown crisis. And a potential rolling of heads.

     

     

    On the same day this newspaper attempted to carry out a straw poll of opinions from top-flight clubs. That not one chose to make a public comment is another sign of the nervousness around the entire MacLennan issue.

     

     

    They may be happy to sit back and watch the ball fizzing across the net but not one of them feels like getting in its path, which is a great pity as this is an issue that affects every one of them.

     

     

    It is now surely time for someone to do something more than just fire up the office laptop and press the button on another public rebuke or insinuation.

     

     

    If King feels strongly enough to fight this out in public – and the Rangers chairman does have a point in terms of proper governance – why has he not formalised his grievance or taken his complaint directly to the SPFL boardroom or chief executive Neil Doncaster?

     

     

    King may well have a sound, legitimate reason for questioning how MacLennan was able to take a seat as non-executive chairman of a company part owned by Dermot Desmond and Denis O’Brien but he undermines the seriousness of the situation by engaging in grandstanding and playing to the gallery.

     

     

    Also, by calling for transparency and good corporate governance he might as well have added “yours pot, signed kettle.”

     

     

    If the SPFL feel their name or that of MacLennan or even Doncaster has been unfairly tarnished by King’s actions and accusations then pull him up for it.

     

     

    Demand he cease or throw the book at him on a charge of disrepute or whatever else is in your power. Because in terms of perception their lack of action points to a guilty conscience.

     

     

    That’s not to say MacLennan has been nobbled by Celtic’s biggest shareholder and his long-term business ally.

     

     

    Nor is it confirmation for the conspiracy theorists convinced Celtic have grabbed the game in this country by the short and curlies.

     

     

    It also opens the gates to a toxic swamp of whataboutery – especially given the roles Campbell Ogilvie and Gordon Smith once held within the SFA. The truth of the matter is MacLennan’s CV and background in media would most probably have had him on the shortlist for a role at a company like INM whether he was head of the table at the SPFL or not. But that’s not the point either.

     

     

    The point is MacLennan is being paid to act in the best interests of the Scottish game so when he was first invited on to INM’s board the onus was on him to raise a flag inside Hampden and to point out a possible conflict of interests.

     

     

    Whether there was or wasn’t should then have become a matter for others to determine. It was most certainly not up to him to decide there was none.

  6. Shameful guff from a huckster inviting us into a hunned-up Big Top to wrassle with a fat – bellied pig standing up to its knees in scoddish mud.

  7. South Of Tunis on

    Frank Haffey ? .

     

     

    My abiding memory of him is his beautiful pass to the Raith player who then rattled the ball into the net to make it 1-1 . That done he proceeded to play very well — Scottish Cup Semi Final 1963 . . He played really really well in the 1-1 Final v the Deady Bears which followed . . . The replay -a 3-0 loss sticks in my mind as being possibly the worst performance v that lot I had the misfortune to witness..Humped !

  8. From the Spiers tweets…

     

     

    ‘C Ogilivie is a very decent guy who got dragged into a mess at RFC.’

     

     

    He misled/lied to LNS. Any chance of asking why?

     

     

    ‘Because of conversations I’ve had with both CO and GS, I can assure you, it absolutely is answering your question’

     

     

    In other words because Spiers is chummy with both, nothing to see here. The SMSM in a nutshell. Unbelievable that this guy takes himself seriously.

  9. Hunbelievable guff being spouted by that coward Spiers.

     

     

    …and as for Jackson?!

     

     

    Jesus wept!

     

     

    HH!!

  10. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    STARRYPLOUGH

     

     

    Looks to me like a concerted campaign. I wonder who is behind it,and why the hacks are going for it.

  11. DAVID17

     

     

    I’ve said that for years on here, that Spiers is absolutely not to be trusted in any way shape or form.

     

     

    He’s that trying to be an acceptable face of Hunguffery and an excuse maker for those who destroyed our game.

     

     

    CO is a very decent guy, aye right ye are ya corduroy clad clown..DAVID17

     

     

    I’ve said that for years on here, that Spiers is absolutely not to be trusted in any way shape or form.

     

     

    He’s that trying to be an acceptable face of Hunguffery and an excuse maker for those who destroyed our game.

     

     

    CO is a very decent guy, aye right ye are ya corduroy clad clown..

     

     

    A huns a hun for awe that..

  12. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    TALLYBHOY

     

     

    I’ve defended Spiers in the past. Not anymore.

  13. Speirs…

     

    I say, therefore it is, apologies if you don’t like it.

     

     

    Of course we’ll trust you Graham, you’ve explained your reasoning so well, how could anyone possibly doubt you?

     

     

    HH

  14. On Ogilvie and honesty

     

     

    From LNS Decision.

     

     

    1) Campbell Ogilvie, who was called as a witness for the SPL. then

     

     

    Mr Ogilvie learnt about the existence of the MGMRT in about 2001

     

    or 2002, because a contribution was made for his benefit. He understood that this was non-contractual.

     

     

    So he had knowledge of both ebt schemes – the DOS Rangers Employee Benefit Trust (REBT) he started and WHY IT WAS USED and the Murray Group Management Remuneration Trust that he benefitted from yet LNS said – wait for it.

     

     

    ” We note that the MGMRT was preceded by the Rangers Employee Benefit Trust, but we are not aware that they were different trusts. We shall treat them as a continuous trust, which we shall refer to throughout as the MGMRT.)

     

     

    Should CO as a personal witness to LNS not make LNS aware of a difference and why ebts were instigated?

     

     

    Was that not dishonesty?

     

     

    No wonder there is no SFA appetite to revisit LNS, huge questions to be answered about the whole set up.

     

     

    What about the SPFL though, what’s stopping them revisiting?

     

     

    Is DK just trying to create a hand to bargain with?

  15. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

     

    It’s a clear reaction to the Blue perception that the game is moving in a Green direction at SPFL/SFA level and of course that would never do as the game has always had a blue tinge here.

     

     

    The Terror Of The Truth haunts the inhabitants of Poundland.

     

     

    Glibby strikes me to be desperate these days, he might be nuts but he’s know daft, he knows the reckoning is coming and he doesn’t want to be left holding the bill..

     

     

    HH

  16. STARRY PLOUGH on 4TH JUNE 2018 11:17 AM

     

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

     

     

    It’s a clear reaction to the Blue perception that the game is moving in a Green direction at SPFL/SFA level and of course that would never do as the game has always had a blue tinge here.

     

     

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    The truth is we are moving somewhere close to fair play and that is just too much to bare for the men from Ibrox.

  17. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 4th June 2018 11:07 am

     

     

     

    STARRYPLOUGH

     

     

    Looks to me like a concerted campaign. I wonder who is behind it,and why the hacks are going for it.

     

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    They know and have known since 2012 that RFC cheated and fear the consequences for them (and the hacks) if that becomes official. Only LNS stands in the way.

  18. South Of Tunis on

    Graham Spiers ?

     

     

    To quote my great mate -Zooney RIP .

     

     

    ” We should be thankful Shortbread never did an Old Brown and Beige Corduroy Test . It would’ve been him and Del Amitri week in week out .. “

  19. The really startling thing about Speirs comments for me is prior to this I would’ve considered him to be less biased than most.

     

    What a poor judgement that was.

     

     

    As for Jackson, no more than expected from him.

     

     

     

    HH

  20. South Of Tunis on

    A significant aspect of the Calciopoli / Rubentus thing was the degree to which the latter were influencing the media coverage of Italian football . Perfectly good goal by Rube wrongly ruled offside when Rube were 3-0 up and cruising ? -devote 5 minutes to that . Catania denied a stonewall penalty v Rube when its 0-0 with 5 minutes to go? -don’t talk about that at all … Journos / Producers / Directors etc -all on the payroll

     

     

    The TV coverage re football in Scotland was /is very similar . The Cadette goal at Ibrox . Guest pundit Duffield went from – Handball to offside to a shove to a definitive — ” He ( the Ref ) must have seen something ” . . Obviously an _oops that’s a dreadful decision – was simply not to be countenanced.

  21. Stairheedrammy on

    Its reassuring to see the Klan threatened enough to start an offensive- something must be happening that they don’t like.

  22. SOT

     

    Control the narrative at all costs for them.

     

    Same thing happened when Dallas resigned. Reported as all about the offensive ‘ pope ‘ email.

     

    Didn’t have to explain his role in ‘ Dougie, Dougie ‘ where he lied on national radio about the course of events post match. The email was a convenient get out for him imo.

     

     

    HH

  23. STAIRHEEDRAMMY on 4TH JUNE 2018 12:14 PM

     

    Its reassuring to see the Klan threatened enough to start an offensive- something must be happening that they don’t like.

     

     

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    Well they keep telling us…”Nobody likes us, but we don’t care.” …but they obviously do.

     

     

    A word of warning to King though…

     

     

    Careful what you say/infer about Dermot Desmond and Denis O’Brien – irrespective of what we feel about them – because these two will have you in court before you can say “not guilty m’lud” and sue you leaving you with just the clothes you are standing in.

     

     

    HH!!

  24. I contend that Rangers under Murray knew that Rangers position was un tenable and they conspired to make sure that the SFA and SPL and SFL were all jammed with Rangers minded individuals SFA with Regan Ogilvie Peat and smith, Broadfoot etc Doncaster, Ballantyne etc.

     

     

    They were not sure what was going to happen but they knew that they would need the right sort in the Governing bodies

     

     

    Now Celtic were, in my opinion caught out, and missed the significance. However, we are now making sure that this will not happen again and we have got these people out of the governing bodies and replaced by independent minded people. What people Lawwell called “good people” in his interview with Tom English.

     

     

    What we did not do was appoint Celtic minded people as this wouldn’t have produced the necessary multi club support.

     

     

    The Maclelland case is nonsense and there is no way he is Celtic minded, neither are the new people at SFA.

     

     

     

    King is playing to the bottom feeders. I feel that matters are closing in on him and his position as Chairman is under threat with the TOP and Supreme court.

  25. I recently had a conversation with Gordon Smith , former SFA chief executive , he’d taken a coaching session with the boys club team I played with years ago & was the main speaker at my golf club prize giving. I asked for 5 minutes of his time after the event to ask some questions and he gladly obliged. Being well versed from the Res 12 guys I played devils advocate and gave him millions borrowed from the bank and never paid back. I also said that on the premise that no one likes to pay tax , I gave him 10 years of undeclared EBT’s . I pointed out that proper registration is paramount in all levels of football from boys club through to the Juniors and all the way up to the highest level. He agreed. When I pointed out Campbell Ogilvie, Dickson & others not declaring and at one point denying the existence of side letters then why not have an independent review. 10 years of players not registered properly. I told him the game that I ( and supporters of every other team ) payed into was bent . He thanked me for an interesting conversation but couldn’t answer my question !!!! It told me everything.

  26. rpmcelticfan on

    Afternoon folks , inspired by the recent quiz’s here a wee quickie for you , when Fabrice Muamba collapsed on the pitch which current Celtic player was his teammate ? Apologies if this is common knowledge but it was news to me , no prize but a cyber pint of smugness :-)