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Celtic arrive in Prague tomorrow for a game many of us consider a dead rubber.  The thumping Sparta inflected at Celtic Park still smarts and almost certainly ended the competitive element of our Europa League campaign.  The most we can hope for is a cohesive performance and an injury and illness free trip.  A defeat, even a heavy defeat, will not resonate as much as the draw at Easter Road.

For me, the pace quickens at the weekend, when your clean sheet domestic record goes on the line for the 36th consecutive time.  We can only hope the week will be used productively.

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  1. Another embarrassing disrespectful escapade from the self righteous GB.

     

     

    Our manager deserves more respect than a public humilation from self proclaimed uber fans.

     

     

    Generally on here, with a few exceptions we have discussed the pros and cons of a managerial change while respecting what NFL has endured for tbe Celtic cause.

     

    On the eve before a hard European game, I think that stunt is disgusting and speaks more about them.

     

     

    HH.

  2. Bhoy From The Boyne on

    JK would need to stay even if NL did walk. If nothing else, to help with the transition to new management team and then to fly off to whatever sporting performance role PL would find for him. But again, if JK is not responsible for lack of shape, tactics & player motivation and NL walks….then I would give him the managers job till end of season initially. Then reassess in May.

  3. Bhoy From The Boyne on

    which probably asks another question of JK – if he isn’t contributing to the problems, what exactly does he do day to day :-)

  4. Agree with Ernie Lynch and Greenpinata on this.

     

     

    Well intentioned by the GB no doubt but they miss the legitimate target IMO (PL) and publicly humiliate Neil in a way that our enemies will lap up (pun intended). He simply deserves better!

     

     

    Actually on reading the banner and statement again the GB come across as a bit spoilt and self entitled, probably what a generation of nothing but success does I guess but sad nonetheless.

     

     

    HH

  5. In my opinion, the Green Brigade banner is an I’ll advised move. These guys have generated fantastic atmosphere at times, though tactically they oft times feck up.

     

     

    Also my opinion – massively against any notion of NFLs eventual replacement coming from within. Not Kennedy, not Brown.

     

     

    We may well lose the league this season, however the next managerial appointment will inform our direction of travel for the next 2 to 3 years.

     

     

    We need to get this one right.

  6. Mixed views online re GB. Personally, no need to bring NL into the message, we all know that he’s just a cheap(ish) employee of the club , currently out of his depth and that Lawwell is the puppet master. That’s where the focus should be.

     

     

    That said, good to see some form of protest from them and for that I back them. Fans do have power- we have money and without that the club can starve.

     

     

    It’s time for change, the model is broken. The generation of domination has been partially achieved but it’s all domestic in a poor league without much of a challenge until this season and we can;t swot a flea on the continent.

  7. Bhoy From The Boyne on

    Back in early March when Gerrard & Sevco were imploding and then covid hit, I had pictured a similar scenario for Slippy G to what we are going thru now. I saw resembles to NL’s 2010/11 season were we hit something like 91 pts its and then found ourselves off the pace by 5-6 its and 3 nil down to Kilmarnock in Oct 2011. I expected this to pan out for Slippy this autumn too and for him to walk before year end.

     

     

    To his credit NL rescued his 2011/12 season then by going on a run well into the new year. Although, could argue the 2nd half of 2011/12 season was helped in no small part because of McCoist and huns going bust.

     

     

    The CQN homepage has links to historical blogs. I found one from 2011 on the homepage a month ago where you can read thru the comments. Same trends and concerns been raised then. Paul67 articles back then too where quite downbeat. Its the nature of NL’s tactical beliefs and management style. He doesn’t meticulously plan his teams set-up and shape unless against superior opposition. He instead relies on player quality above all else – organised chaos as others call it. Except this time around, the organised and well drilled teams of lesser player quality have worked it out. That won’t change so NL does have to change…and quickly.

  8. GREENPINATA on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 10:19 AM

     

    Another embarrassing disrespectful escapade from the self righteous GB.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Our manager deserves more respect than a public humilation from self proclaimed uber fans.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Generally on here, with a few exceptions we have discussed the pros and cons of a managerial change while respecting what NFL has endured for tbe Celtic cause.

     

     

     

     

    On the eve before a hard European game, I think that stunt is disgusting and speaks more about them.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    HH.

     

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    Were The THREE STOOGES from here at Celtic Park Protesting….NAW…Wait a minute One of the STOOGES hasnt been anywhere near Celtic Park for almost 50 Years……Hes too miserable to pay the Feckin Bus Fare.?

     

    Just asking for A ” CLIQUE” ?

     

    HH

  9. glendalystonsils on

    I agree with the sentiment of the GB banner but not in the cringeworthy way it’s been done . I also think that if they are going to promote their views in this way should have had a bigger or separate banner with the last sentence of their statement on it , holding the board to account also rather than just a personal attack on NL.

  10. JERSEYBHOYS on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 8:46 AM

     

     

     

     

    The cock still at it

     

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    YOU and your TWO Boy Friends are very welcome to attend the next HOOT…Now wouldnt that be something IF any of you dared to turn up ?

  11. They should have waited until tomorrow morning to see if their banner had any relevance, what happens if we win 0-5 tonight and sparkle? Wrong call on the wrong day imho.

  12. Remember when this site used to have standards?

     

     

    When you came on here for sensible discussions and debates?

     

     

    I wouldn’t be blogging today but for this site, as it was, back in the beginning, when you could come on here knowing it was full of intelligent, reasonable people. If you were going to argue a point you came here with your facts straight or prepared to have the flaws in your case pointed out to you.

     

     

    Those were good days.

     

     

    Come on here now and you have to wade through a river of bile and personal attacks none of which are really about the club at all, but egos run amuck,

     

     

    It’s tiresome stuff.

  13. Lol that’s two posters on here now who’ve said the game is tonight, and twice I’ve run off to double check that because I wasn’t 100% sure this was Wednesday!

     

     

    It’s lockdown … days blend into one another now … I cannot wait until this is over with.

  14. GALLAGHER on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 11:09 AM

     

    They should have waited until tomorrow morning to see if their banner had any relevance, what happens if we win 0-5 tonight and sparkle? Wrong call on the wrong day imho.

     

     

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    And if NFL stays and wins the 10 there should be no place at CP for the GB.

  15. It was difficult to imagine how we could make life more difficult for ourselves, but somehow we found way.

  16. Bhoy From The Boyne on

    BHOY FROM THE BOYNE on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 11:02 AM

     

    Back in early March when Gerrard & Sevco were imploding and then covid hit, I had pictured a similar scenario for Slippy G to what we are going thru now. I saw resembles to NL’s 2010/11 season were we hit something like 91 pts its and then found ourselves off the pace by 5-6 its and 3 nil down to Kilmarnock in Oct 2011. I expected this to pan out for Slippy this autumn too and for him to walk before year end.

     

     

     

    To his credit NL rescued his 2011/12 season then by going on a run well into the new year. Although, could argue the 2nd half of 2011/12 season was helped in no small part because of McCoist and huns going bust.

     

     

     

    The CQN homepage has links to historical blogs. I found one from 2011 on the homepage a month ago where you can read thru the comments. Same trends and concerns been raised then. Paul67 articles back then too where quite downbeat. Its the nature of NL’s tactical beliefs and management style. He doesn’t meticulously plan his teams set-up and shape unless against superior opposition. He instead relies on player quality above all else – organised chaos as others call it. Except this time around, the organised and well drilled teams of lesser player quality have worked it out. That won’t change so NL does have to change…and quickly.

     

     

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    In terms of fixing (aside from new manager)

     

     

    Its not difficult to see that Frimpong needs to be removed from right back role. He is too naive due to his age in both an attaching sense and defensively. Play Elhamed instead with Christie on the right mid with Laxalt as our attaching wingback. The midfield shape is all wrong. Play Mcgregor in his best position to dictate the back to midfield play with Ntcham or Turnbull slightly ahead of McGregor. Mo on the other side with Griffiths and Eddie up to get goals and instill confidence in the team (and supporters) Move from variations of 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3. But most importantly find our shape and restrict the movement of the opposition and ensure the players know their positions both on & off the ball. Use Frimpong, Rogic sparingly as substitute options when more width or creativity is needed.

     

     

    Can NL do this? If not, he needs to go and allow somebody who can instil this into the players and mould them into a team.

  17. James Forrest….Oops the GB should’ve kept their powder dry till Friday, everyday’s a school day 🙄

     

    This blog at the start had around sixty or more years of pent up Celtic talk behind it and it showed through the manners, wit and love of all things Celtic from posters who previously only had their mates on a bus or the pub to craic with so it was a dear green place indeed. Now it reflects the me me me society we currently inhabit.

     

    HH and keep smilin

  18. Ernie Lynch

     

    It’s all about edukayshun and experience, they’re young and impatient, if NFL pulls it off he will be entitled to go to the north curve with a bag of hats and a bag of dentures for them to chew on. Showing magnanimity in victory will educate them as they contritely scoff their bunnets.

     

    HH

  19. onenightinlisbon on

    As a critic of the manager I can’t disagree with the content of the GB statement today. However, I can’t help but think they have handed the msm a gift here. Surely they could have communicated their feelings to the board in some other way?

  20. So the self appointed political wing of the Celtic support take to the car park to publicly humiliate our manager. Its made he front page of The Sun..well done guys

     

     

    the huns will be loving it.

  21. Bhoy From The Boyne on

    ONENIGHTINLISBON,

     

     

    I don’t think this message is for the board but rather appealing to NL directly.

     

    ‘Save the ten. Time to go, Neil’

     

     

    Maybe intended for the board indirectly but reads to me for NL foremost.

  22. onenightinlisbon on

    BHOY FROM THE BOYNE on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 11:48 AM

     

     

    Maybe the message but read the statement, makes it clear to the board about their legacy should we not get the ten.

     

     

    And surely there could have been a better way of communicating their feelings to the manager than this?

     

     

    They have handed the huns and the gutter press another opportunity to beat us and beat us they will.

  23. With scarves tied round wrists in the 70s, could we have imagined an era when eloquent football gangs would craft artwork banners and pen self-aggrandising press statements and then actually see the meeja print them!

     

    Guess some wid say that’s that’s democracy-in-progress.

     

    Unconvinced by, but sympathetic to, Neil – I guess he must still feel he has what’s needed to win this for us!

     

     

    PS We should be using Broony like Klopp uses Milner, one of the best free-transfer players in the game’s history; deploy on a game-to-game as needed basis. Used sparingly, his legend will live on without being diminished by the demands of overplaying. HH

  24. Bhoy From The Boyne on

    ONENIGHTINLISBON,

     

     

    I don’t disagree, GB could have handled this better no doubt. End of the day, they are desperate fans like the rest of us. The boards backing of NL via McGowan & co has probably pushed them (naively) to this.

     

    Shame the club cannot communicate better to the fans both publicly as well as privately to the GB.

     

    I expect the suits hold nothing but contempt for GB except their money, so no chance of reasonable dialog here leading to todays situation.

  25. Bhoy From The Boyne on

    On a seperate note, has anyone ever recalled a more dislikable board member than Ian Bankier?

     

    Everytime I hear this guy speak he reeks of arrogance & contempt to those who pay his salary.

     

    Before you mention the Whites…..

  26. A fiver for your thoughts on

    The GB are entitled to say what the want

     

    Free speech and all that

     

     

    I honestly don’t believe NL can continue much longer but as I’ve said here before NL is not the real problem the blame for our current demise lies higher up the food chain

     

     

    I don’t think we should throw JK under a bus, he’s young, been around a few managers and learning from all of it, I do t think it’s fair to say he’s part of the problem, he may well have completely different ideas under the bonnet but no way to express them in the present set up

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