Dear Mrs Budge

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Tynecastle has been a source of intolerant abuse for decades.  Visitors, including the Celtic support, have endured the most offensive behaviour imaginable.  This is ongoing and culminated in our manager being assaulted in his technical area recently.

It is the easiest thing in the world to throw abuse at others while being blind to your own fans’ behaviour.  It is merely adequate to criticise your own while pointing out the errors of others, for example – Celtic fans who vandalise are knuckle-dragging idiots – it’s that easy.

We await your apology public to Anthony Stokes for the sectarian abuse he received at your stadium.

My hunch is that you’ll body-swerve this one, that you don’t know sectarian abuse from public comments the Scottish authorities have made illegal in order to “equalise” the offenders, and this intervention will encourage the galleries of intolerance at Tynecastle.

Signing event in Stirling

Joe Miller will be at Waterstones in Stirling tomorrow (Thurs) from 5pm to sign copies of Caesar and the Assassin, Billy McNeill and Davie Hay’s account of managing Celtic from 1978 to 1991, told in their own words to Alex Gordon.

Joe is a great character who worked under McNeill, Hay and Alex Ferguson, and now heads the Celtic Former Players Association.  If you’re in the Stirling area, get along and bring your camera.

The 2015 CQN Annual is through design and ready to ship next week. You can pre-order yours now.

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  1. Kitalba…Mrs Budge’s statement referred to 100 seats, graffiti and toilets. I’m quite sure Mrs Budge would know that the vandalism occurred in the away section wouldn’t you think? Are you suggesting it was the stewards? Perhaps it was the fairies.

  2. eddieinkirkmichael on

    In East Kilbride tonight, St Leonards. Anyone know of any supporters buses in EK and were they leave from?

     

     

    Thanks in advance.

  3. Dear Mr. Taximan

     

     

    You asked:

     

     

    Why does your open letter not contain one single word of condemnation toward those Celtic supporters who damaged the facilities, not to mention Celtic’s reputation, at Tynecastle?

     

     

     

     

    Mr Brennan wrote (a couple of hours before you asked):

     

     

     

    Celtic fans who vandalise are knuckle-dragging idiots

  4. Anyhoo…on tonight’s game…

     

     

    Will PT have learned their lesson about giving away free kicks around the box? Hope not. Will the PT players have learned their lesson about trying to scythe down our players? Hope so.

     

     

    2-0 to the Bhoys. Stokes to score the first and the last. ( that’s what you call a double jinx)

  5. justafan

     

     

    16:42 on 3 December, 2014

     

    Paul…did you actually read Mrs Bs statement or did you take comments from news feeds?

     

     

    Mrs B didn’t miss her own support and given she is responding from a partisan perspective I would have thought a little more credit was her due.

     

     

    I would however be upset had there been any vandalism etc. at their league match last week AND she made no comment then. Mention such things once, mention needed at all times. Maybe there were no issues worthy of comment since the Sevco support was severely limited (900?).

     

     

    There has regularly been damage from many away supports from time to time (noteworthy the Well v Albion R cup tie the week before our visit to Fir Park) and for the most part the clubs quietly agree to compensate. If recent history of football in Scotland tells us anything the need for transparency is paramount.

     

     

    At the risk of repeating myself Premiership clubs should agree a reporting format to cover vandalism within the stadium and its facilities (not accusations of ‘offensive behaviour’ or other subjective events).

     

     

    Create a dedicated website with video/ pics of clearly identified areas and location to provide before and after analysis.

     

    Provide a ratio of fans to stewards/ police at each section/ location.

     

    Provide detail of CCTV coverage per area

     

    Confirm away fan attendance numbers.

     

    Etc.

     

     

    These details to be posted prior to and after every game at each stadium. A virtually cost free system, in fact a cost saving system, to stop all the whataboutery, subjective and biased commentary and accusations.

     

     

    HH

     

     

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    Post of the day IMHO.

     

     

    Transparency and communication are paramount, however I suspect that the media prefer the opaque strategy. Get everyone whipped into a lather. It’s so much better for business.

  6. canamalar:

     

     

    Oh he’s a troll okay but I FEAR a green one as opposed the more predictable and less vulgar ones.

  7. I see the hordes think they have the name of the Rangers Tax Case blogger, who they also think is @corsica1968. If it is a man initialled KD he should take care. They’re not aa rational bunch.

  8. Eddieinkirkmichael,

     

    I’m 7 minutes from St Leonards.

     

    Was leaving at 6.30 to pick up Bournesouprecipe but if you get back in the next 10 minutes I will pick you up.

     

     

    EC67

  9. canamalar:

     

     

    Can you rememmber those on here who tried to lynch Aleksandar Tonev on the day with their only evidence being the reported words of just one man?

     

     

    I can.

  10. The zoomers who take things at face value will be the ones who believe that there is no agenda against the club.

     

     

    They prob believe that man landed on the moon in 1969 as well.

     

     

    HH

  11. scotlands shame on

    Well done Celtic, terrific statement accepting portion of blame but highlighting continued issues our club faces goin to that hole. Surely even the board bashers are satisfied. Well done all those involved

  12. If Anthony Stokes was black, or Muslim, there would be outrage among the media and authorities.

     

     

    But he’s not. He’s Irish, born a catholic. So the angle is, by lack of action or comment, that he’s probably fibbing…

  13. eddieinkirkmichael on

    Eurochamps67

     

     

    18:03

     

     

    Here’s my mobile number mate, should just be out the bath in time

     

     

    07794621471

  14. Well said, Celtic. Now how about doing something about those media scum who infest our club.

     

     

    It is relentless just now and it’s time the club publicly showed us, the Support that it is not acceptable and will be challenged.

     

     

    They need us more then we need them .

     

     

    Anyway, big VVD first goal tonight

  15. Sandman:

     

     

    The question is though, will the powers that be convict on ‘the balance of probability’.

     

     

    Aye they will – Under the Penal Servitude Act 1853 Anthony Stokes will be sentenced to 100 years hard labour in the Queensland sun without water or rebel songs.

  16. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    It is no defence for Celtic fans or indeed a Celtic footballer to point the finger at other clubs fans saying look in before you look out. I think it is very unlikely that the Hearts owner was telling anything other than the truth about broken seats etc we cannot do a lot about other clubs fans other than ban them from Parkhead we should be able to sort out the bad element that get Celtic a bad name we are supposed to be amongst the best supporters in the World but it only takes a few bad apples to ruin the barrel. H.H.

  17. Afternoon all

     

     

    Unusual to be in a position where I say that the Celtic PR dept has pretty much hit thr nail on the head with its statement in response to the comments made by Ann Budge. A bit late when it comes to the treatment our team, officials and support has had to endure in and around that stadium but at last it has come

     

     

    I lived and worked in Edinburgh on and off for over 20 years and grew to loath their superior attitude to the religious differences west of their city as it was only in Edinburgh in the workplace that I was ever routinely referred to as ‘pape’, ‘left footer’, ‘hairy back’ and ‘fenian’ by colleagues. In my experience the only reason there was no perceived sectarian problem in that beautiful but hypocritical city was because there were very few catholics in all but the poorest districts. I worked in a bank and later my mother came to the city and worked for a whisky broker and encountered the same attitudes – her colleagues fresh from their posh schools were astounded that a Catholic woman with an Irish background was more than merely basically literate. And then there was Tynecastle where much of the fans song repertoire was indistinguishable from that of the Rangers support- irrespective of the opposition and where standing and sitting amongst their support at some matches I went to with friends was obnoxiously anti-Catholic and uniquely racist when it came to players from any non WASP background. Again only Edinburgh – well into the 1990s the N word was routinely used to describe black people.

     

     

    Well I am off to the match now having got that off my chest

     

     

    Jimbo67

  18. It’s clear to me that it was the XXXXL Sevco fans the previous week who weakened the seats and all the Celtic support did was sit on them. :-)

     

     

     

    WhatabouteryCSC

  19. This is Scotland were Catholics the Irish and especially Irish Catholics face endemic hatred from the stands of Tynecastle

     

     

    Stokes got in the neck from them because he is Irish

     

     

    Not so long ago our previous Irish manager got attacked at Tynecastle and his attacker got an Edinburgh jury verdict

     

     

    We take a far lot more on the chin than others

     

     

    A few broken seats is the least of madam Budge worries

     

     

    Considering the regular clientele frequenting her stadium

     

     

    Anyway welcome to the big stage madam Budge you will find your new found role fighting sectarianism in Scottish fitba a life long quest

     

     

    I wish you luck

  20. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Just been on newsnow, their first link is to the Record up to its usual guff, the headline in their site is Celtic fans winding us up is nothing new.

     

     

    Off to the game now, let’s get our jobs done tonight, the players playing well and the support supporting.

  21. nothing without fans on

    The BBC twisted the original story from what Ms Budge had written.

     

     

    And now they’ve updated their story, twisting Celtic’s response.

     

     

    NWF

  22. A long shot chaps, but anyone know if there’s anywhere to see the game in Fredrikshavn in Denmark? I haven’t got a fast enough connection to watch it online

  23. Pleased with the official Celtic response. My only gripe is I wish we were more pro active in these type’s of statement. I’ve said for a long time now Tynecastle is more dangerous than Ibrox for us.

     

    H.T. Whether we like it or not. Hun is now deemed sectarian, it was used on several occasions on Sun also, although I know we would both disagree, a huge part, if not all the establishment, view Republican songs as sectarian. Budge probably thought she was on safe ground. That’s why I’m pleased with the club’s statement and I am as intrigued as you to see how much coverage MSM will give it. I think we know the answer.

  24. bournesouprecipe on

    BBC Reporting Scotland running with the Celtic bashing headline agenda LIVE from Tynecastle.

     

     

    Off to Paradise CSC

  25. Good old Tom English. On the one hand he tells us he was not at the hearts game on Sunday but then tells us he knows for sure the atmosphere was poisonous.

     

    Dear, dear Lord.

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