A Dermot Desmond interview! Remember him? It’s been a while since we’ve seen or heard from our major shareholder, so I am pleased STV got hold of him. His absence for so many years is not in itself an offence, but there has been no evidence he remains engaged with the club, and that’s not healthy.
His comments on Ronny Deila I agree with. Ronny is here because we think he can improve players and therefore improve the team. The evidence cited by Dermot Desmond (Nir Bitton, Tom Rogic), suggests he’s able to do this. There have been downsides of course. Ronny’s twice fallen in the Champions League to lesser-resourced (although decent) teams.
If we’re going to build a team we need to be patient enough to let the guy get on with the job.
The comments about a British league within 10 years are worth examining at a later date, but for brevity: this is no more than blue-sky thinking.
I agree in principle that technological changes are underway which will undermine the BSkyB business model. This model relies on the pull of English Premier League football to deliver high-value subscription rates from a huge portion of the UK population.
We talked in the summer about the switch to what the Americans call ‘cutting the cord’; moving away from expensive subscription TV to watching feeds streamed from foreign broadcasters, effectively free of charge. This is happening and its impact will only increase.
I know lots of CQNers are already consuming their English football in this manner, it works and it’s practically undetectable (i.e. it really is undetectable). But it’s not easy yet. You need to know what you are doing, and you need decent broadband. Products are improving all the time, as is broadband provision. Soon paying £100 per month for TV, as many do, will be a goodwill option.
Should there be even a modest shift in BSkyB’s ability to generate huge revenue from EPL football, the fallout in the English football bubble (it is a bubble) will be swift and structurally damaging.
Getting to the point. English football has a business model with risks which could bring it down. Technological changes are underway which undermine this model. Lots will happen in the next 10 years.
Let me share one of my favourite graphs………..
Kodak had a great marketing slogan, they called a great image a ‘Kodak moment’, when people would turn to their cameras to capture the memory on Kodak paper. The phrase was turned on its head in recent years when the realisation that Kodak’s entire business model was about to be destroyed by digital cameras.
The moment of realisation became the ultimate ‘Kodak moment’, it now meant a moment when you realise technology is about to wipe you out. Those who were saying this about Kodak 20 years ago were mocked. Some of us already think we’ve seen English football’s Kodak moment.
This is Kodak’s market capitalisation between 1989 and 2012, where was your Kodak moment?
Magners have kindly offered some CQNers access to the Fanzone at their Wellpark Brewery, just a few minutes walk from the stadium, on Thursday afternoon, from 4pm until 7pm.
Here’s the deal, email me at celticquicknews@gmail.com and you’ll go in the draw for a ticket. Give a £1 (or more) to one of the Great Scottish Runners below, in aid of your Foundation, and you will feel a lot better about enjoying the pleasures of Magners’ Fanzone. Put Magners in the subject line, to make sure your entry gets to the right place.
There will be not be many entries, so if you can make it, get busy…
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Hamiltontim
For not having.much sleep and a bad back it sure didn’t show, well played
Fwiw, I fkn hate the thought of seeing the union jack flying high in a stand at Celtic park twice a season, playing in the English set up would finish it for me.
Spend what we can to be the best we can in our country/league does it for me.
Mr Desmond knows exactly what he’s saying/doing, the gate won’t drop sufficiently enough to cause concern, probably will increase some, full houses twice a year against them, throw in cup comps and a few games in europe..ta da!!
Job done.
Sad days indeed… For me :(
Wee Shay on the swings
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=509856152511194&set=pcb.509856352511174&type=3&theater
Family just trying to live a normal life.
God Bless them
HH
CRC
Dermot can kiss my spotty arse
And, in the style of cowiebhoy earlier, if I wasnt heading to spain on friday I,d take my spotty arse and present it to the fud on my hallowed carnoustie turf.
Maybe my wee bro or Sipsini could stand in for me. Both have bigger and spottier arses than me.
Burnley78
Couple of Q’s.
1. In the last couple of years DD has blowen the OF trumpet at a golf day for media. Why does he not attend a single AGM and blow that trumpet to the fans/share holders he so readily has a distaste for?
2. While you are so far up DD’s rectum give us a shout when you reach Peters ankles?
Cheers
MWD said AYE ;)
HT,
I thought Blackett didn’t look too comfy on his debut but no-one really got me going that day.
He looked OK replacing izzy in the Arena Imo. Tough game to judge.
Looked braw at ch but I’ll be told it was only v the rovers. (best team in Fife btw;))
As I said earlier, I really wasn’t impressed with the young lad in the league cup and as a happy clapper it pains me to say that.
HH
Celticrollercoaster,I come from I guess the old school where your enemy is your enemy but those who betray you are worse than your enemy.
Green piñata…..,
Don’t think so mate…
Qualifications recognised globally…..trust
Expecting Johansen to be back in the starting lineup tomorrow.
Hopefully missing a few games will have have done him the world of good(brought him back to earth with a thud)and he puts in the kind of performance he is capable of.
HT
I see Kieran Tierney didn’t play tonight against Helsinki
Have to say though, thought his natural position was left half (old version:-)) and not left back ?
Nytol all and catch you at the game
Hail Hail
COYBIG
Lurking Huns GIRFUY’s
Finally KevJ, will give the Bhoys an extra wee cheer for you :-) keep the faith
I saw sipsini posting about Joanna Lumley earlier. Wasnt sure if I got the point, but as a wummin she,s bound to be a dab hand wi an iron.
She could iron oot his wrinkled auld coupon nae bother.
I can just picture DD playing the role of Pablo Escobar in Narcos.
He obviously thinks he can say and do whatever the feck he likes, and everyone will just accept it.
New career there as an actor…all the classic roles…..King Louis XV, Carnegie, JP Morgan, Rockefeller, Moses, Billy Liar….the list is endless.
He is sure to be brilliant as John Knox….if he can pull off the accent.
Be a smash hit in the Muppet Show.
HH
Got to say something Mags said sparked a light, maybe Res12 is his way out of Scotland but I doubt it.
The huddle,
I said apps. not caps :)
75ish is an OK tally for a 21 year old.
But….if he plays no part in the next two games my opinion can easily change :)
HH
NegAnon2 on 30th September 2015 10:40 pm
As you know, I am probably not far behind you on that.
Hope life is treating you well
HH
CRC
he would be a shoe in for david murray in the new sting film.
DUPED
Canamalar on 30th September 2015 10:38 pm
I suspect that if there was even a sniff of an invite to a big money league DD would take over very rapidly.
“Wasnt sure if I got the point, but as a wummin she,s bound to be a dab hand wi an iron.”
Acgr,
iron in the golfing sense?
The pc brigade will be on to you neebs :D
Was off oot until I seen that ACGR post on an iron
:-))
Saint Stivs
DD as Rhett Butler in Gone With the Wind:)
HH
A Ceiler Gonof Rust on 30th September 2015 10:43 pm
I saw sipsini posting about Joanna Lumley earlier. Wasnt sure if I got the point, but as a wummin she,s bound to be a dab hand wi an iron.
She could iron oot his wrinkled auld coupon nae bother.
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ACGR
I presume she would be using her mystical powers as she did in Sapphire and Steel for this job :-)
HH
CRC
Wow, just in and reading back. Assumed all the chat would be about tomorrow night. But no, our absentee landlord has delivered his annual cringefest at the Dunhill Cup. Amazing he is ever present given his repeated failure to attend our AGM.
If they ever remake Father Ted they should get this fud to play Father Dougal. He’d be a natural.
Marspapa
Struggling for it now though! Well player yersel tonight auld yin :-)
Like you I have no great desire to move to the EPL. My preference would be some form of European league where we maintain our identity.
Hamilton Tim
I guess I was just searching for an explanation.
I was taking the view that the guy is not daft and would not risk alienating many supporters without a good reason for doing it.
I may well be wrong and there may be none. Maybe he was just caught with guard down for 2nd year in a row.
Personally I struggle to find any justification for it but in my view there has to be an explanation or it really is incredibly stupid.
Weeminger,
And he can take over any time he wants now because he has the requisite % of shares, no ?
Check and mate Celtic supporters
GM, have you seen sipsini’s dial?
Smacking it wi a three iron might work better than a top of the range tefal……….:_)
CORKCELT on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2015 9:42 PM
Canamalar, As I have said before I despise all the Irish Tax Exile Billionaires and I include Desmond in that. I do not want to be seen as a supporter or defender of him in any way. However I see no reason to disbelieve him when he says his prime motivation in investing in Celtic was an emotional one. Celtic have a Stock Market Valuation of circa 70 million, Desmond owns approx 35% of Shares circa 24 million, he could earn a lot more with that money invested elsewhere.
I wonder if anyone who knows about such things could tell us exactly how much DD has taken directly or indirectly out of Celtic?
– See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/dermots-return-to-the-fray-kodak-moment/comment-page-9/#comments
BURNLEY78 on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2015 10:54 PM
Hamilton Tim
I guess I was just searching for an explanation.
I was taking the view that the guy is not daft and would not risk alienating many supporters without a good reason for doing it.
The good reason is that he doesn’t give a flying F for the fans.
– See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/dermots-return-to-the-fray-kodak-moment/comment-page-11/#comment-2689053
marspapa on 30th September 2015 10:38 pm
Are you posting from the Southern General? Hope you are ok after some hefty challenges tonight?
Not sure why you are giving HT praise, as he couldnae hit a barn door tonight. Mind, he never stopped motoring up and down the middle ala Stan Petrov. I reckon the bad back was a ruse to lead us into a false sense of security :-)
You bhoys did well and deserved the 5s victory
HH
CRC
Burnley78, don’t you think there’s a good possibility that he’s just so out of touch with the ordinary supporter that he’s oblivious to the alienation he’s causing?
I’ve yet to see Desmond at an AGM. I’ve missed a few over his time at CP but I don’t have access to a private jet to get me to them. He can turn up any time there’s a freebie golf game at Carnoustie or St Andrews but cant put in an appearance in front of the people who line his bank account.
BTW, how’s the distilling business going? I’d be interested in trying some of your wares.
HH
Quonno
No one is that stupid. Why would he want to give that impression ? Even if it were true.
I love neganons parallel universe
It’s all a question of relativity
Him like me has had to traverse the oldfirm wormhole a Deep deep Scottish hole filled with worms. To get to the other side one must spit out a few worms. It will all be worth it in the universal mind
Quonno…
Check out Dermot Desmond’s ‘investment’ in One 51….
Check out the history of the company.
Most of you realise that CQN’s view on the Huns, whilst true, is not known, let alone shared by the majority of the Celtic support ?
DD and Fergus getting plaudits for saving us
Was it not the “Cells for change”who were/are the real heroes.
Anyhoo, away tae soak ma weary aul bones.
Goodnight fellow Celts
A clean sheet for me keep to keep that run going can only breed confidence.
Hopefully 2-0…… COYBIG..:)
When Chals floated his new club on the stock exchange the price they got caused the Celtic shares to almost double, since then the Celtic shares have settled at the higher rate, about 73p a share now, can anyone tell me what price DD paid for his original share price investment ?
What price he paid for his increased uptake ? Yet there are people who still believe he is only in it for sentimental reasons ffs.
Very very simple maths, 32M @ 73 p what £24M original investment what £4M on ordinary shares alone and picking up dividends yet these people telling us he could have got a better turn around elsewhere 600% in 20 years no too bad really is it ?
ACGR
You maybe we’ll be right re ‘out of touch’ but I am sure he would have been briefed, if not then that is really poor by the club.
I can’t help but think his comments were aimed at a wider audience to emphasise the size of the combined prize. It is obviously easier to sell that combined entity ( much as we loathe it).
As I keep saying he may have been better saying nothing but as he did speak, and say what he did, I am hoping there was a reason.
Hopefully we will have our wares at CP sometime soon. Happy to show you round our place if you are up our way anytime soon… And share a dram !
Night Timdom
Only had time to read this page but great to the acerbic golfer back in full flow!
Desmondo re-enters the fray does he?
My erse he did.
The man you’d choose for help in a battle or to man the barricades. Errrr no.
Looks like a big top circus owner from the wild west and talks the same talk too.
Old firm snake oil anyone?
GTFdesmondoCSC
1 more sleep
HH jamesgang
CRC
Self inflicted mucker, to slow and cumbersome to get out the way haha.
Some of the skill on show at times was a treat to “watch”…:)
Remember to let “S” know I’m in for next week.!!!