Dermot’s return to the fray, Kodak moment


A Dermot Desmond interview! Remember him? It’s been a while since we’ve seen or heard from our major shareholder, so I am pleased STV got hold of him. His absence for so many years is not in itself an offence, but there has been no evidence he remains engaged with the club, and that’s not healthy.

His comments on Ronny Deila I agree with. Ronny is here because we think he can improve players and therefore improve the team. The evidence cited by Dermot Desmond (Nir Bitton, Tom Rogic), suggests he’s able to do this. There have been downsides of course. Ronny’s twice fallen in the Champions League to lesser-resourced (although decent) teams.

If we’re going to build a team we need to be patient enough to let the guy get on with the job.

The comments about a British league within 10 years are worth examining at a later date, but for brevity: this is no more than blue-sky thinking.

I agree in principle that technological changes are underway which will undermine the BSkyB business model. This model relies on the pull of English Premier League football to deliver high-value subscription rates from a huge portion of the UK population.

We talked in the summer about the switch to what the Americans call ‘cutting the cord’; moving away from expensive subscription TV to watching feeds streamed from foreign broadcasters, effectively free of charge. This is happening and its impact will only increase.

I know lots of CQNers are already consuming their English football in this manner, it works and it’s practically undetectable (i.e. it really is undetectable). But it’s not easy yet. You need to know what you are doing, and you need decent broadband. Products are improving all the time, as is broadband provision. Soon paying £100 per month for TV, as many do, will be a goodwill option.

Should there be even a modest shift in BSkyB’s ability to generate huge revenue from EPL football, the fallout in the English football bubble (it is a bubble) will be swift and structurally damaging.

Getting to the point. English football has a business model with risks which could bring it down. Technological changes are underway which undermine this model. Lots will happen in the next 10 years.

Let me share one of my favourite graphs………..

Kodak had a great marketing slogan, they called a great image a ‘Kodak moment’, when people would turn to their cameras to capture the memory on Kodak paper. The phrase was turned on its head in recent years when the realisation that Kodak’s entire business model was about to be destroyed by digital cameras.

The moment of realisation became the ultimate ‘Kodak moment’, it now meant a moment when you realise technology is about to wipe you out. Those who were saying this about Kodak 20 years ago were mocked. Some of us already think we’ve seen English football’s Kodak moment.

This is Kodak’s market capitalisation between 1989 and 2012, where was your Kodak moment?
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  1. My Kodak moment came the minute I realised the best side of the camera was the view finder side.



    That was the day I realised the camera always lies as in person I am gorgeous.



    MWD said AYE



    PS who the duck is Dermot desmond?

  2. DD throwing out another hoary old chestnut about the EPL/British League? Less chance of it happening now than ever before IMO.The last 2 TV deals increased the money to a different stratosphere.’ Let’s invite a Scottish Club down here,and they will take your place in the league?’……………’all those in favour………?’


    Never happening.

  3. Dermot’s return and Paul 67’s blog raise a few interesting points


    Dermot has been banging on for years about a British league, and the reality is we are no closer.


    My own view is that Dermot ran out of interest in Celtic around 10 years ago , and subsequently we operate on a money in / money out model without any sort of game changer strategy.


    I suspect he ‘hangs around’ because he can afford to , he has an affinity for the club , and he realizes that if we ever do reach a British or Euro league, he will make a fortune.


    Overall, I think he has been reasonably good for Celtic, not great, but reasonably good.



    Where I believe he could inject some energy is blue sky thinking – Paul 67, describes Dermo’s as blue sky thinking, my personal belief is that this is exactly what is missing, and, with Impending departure of Eric Reilly, now would be a good opportunity to get a couple of new bits of fresh blood.

  4. TALLYBHOY on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2015 2:09 PM


    DD has been at the Dunhill for the last umpteen years.







    Fitba comes a distant fourth after family (rightly so), making money and gowf.










    You missed out the horse racing and rugby union mate………..HH

  5. Good Afternoon.



    It would be nice to hear from Dermot Desmond a bit more often. Not least to remind us that he is still interested in Celtic!



    Meanwhile, here are a couple of new pieces.



    One reflecting on Stewart Regan’s call for transparency from Platini.






    And one about Sevco’s Champions League aspirations.






    No laughing at the back, please…

  6. Quick point in the DD interview and if you ever get the chance Paul67 can you ask him the Q.



    Just how do build a team when bonus Pete makes sure his bonus is topped up by selling the best players annually?



    MWD said AYE

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    Yea No Worries.. Hit Me Up..Via pm just give me Notice..



    Remember Murdoch is Aussie and owns Foxtel it is Very Hard to Block the http://www.. You are Legally paying for Broadband.. Which will get better and Cheaper..






    Ps.. I’ll be in the BV with Ole OleTim on Thursday.. Chewing the Cat..【ツ】







    I forgot about the horse racing, with his pals JP McManus and John Magnier.



    Never knew about the rugby.



    What about GAA and hurling?









    ERNIE LYNCH on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2015 12:39 PM





    You`re right Ernie.




    He did make a reference to Bobo which certainly sounded racist.




    However,that particular term originally just meant a silly person.




    In the fifties nigger brown was a commonly used term.




    Agatha Christie`s “Ten little nigger boys” morphed to “Indians” although that`s probably unacceptable now too.




    Piccaninnies and grandpapas …Lees Macaroon bars.




    Anyway.I`ve said my piece.




    Political correctness reigns supreme.



    Apparently there is no longer a ‘Heretic Throng’. They have been replaced by Infidels.

  10. Summa



    If you’re at the north end of bellshill, I’d go via the M8 as the Raith Interchange at Strathclyde Park is pretty busy these days.

  11. The Battered Bunnet on

    Sorry Macjay,



    So I understand you: Are you saying that Kojo did not advocate anti-miscegeny, or that anti-miscegeny is not offensive?

  12. That’ll be goodbye to Warby’s Warchest then. Tinfoil at the aye ready now






    In my considered opinion, Green’s litigation costs, per annum, will be circa £3.74m – £5.3m. This year’s season ticket receipts (after VAT) are £7.3m. Green’ costs represent between 51.2% to 72.6% of our major source of income. Supporting Rangers for the next 3-7 years will result in 51.2p to 72.6p of our blue pound going directly to Green’s defence team

  13. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on



    Sorry Macjay,



    So I understand you: Are you saying that Kojo did not advocate anti-miscegeny, or that anti-miscegeny is not offensive?






    I`m saying nothing if the sort.


    I`m saying cut an old guy a bit of slack.



    Incidentally where are all the self-righteous anti-racists when Scotland and the Scottish people are insulted with impunity on this blog.


    Hiding behind their double standards.


    That`s where.



    Over and out.

  14. Insightful piece from Paul – what goes up must come down.



    The rise in finance to the English game has been abysmally managed and has benefited only players, agents and the corporates.



    It, of course, has had a devastating effect on other neighbours, especially here.



    Any ‘Kodak ‘ tipping- point will, if also badly managed, will have an even more devastating outcome up here – the prospect of TV money being withdrawn from peripheral areas as revenue falls, may well finish full-time football for 90% of clubs in Scotland.



    So whilst the current arrangements are severely detrimental to us, let’s just be careful of what we wish for……the business model at Celtic is the ONLY game in town for us in order to insure our club against future seismic changes – yes it can be frustrating – however, in the meantime, the football department MUST deliver more BANG for our (substantial) BUCK!

  15. Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles on

    Sitting in Birmingham international station. I’ve just submitted my e-mail for the Fanzone draw. Fortunately I doubled checked the subject line as the spell checker had changed it to Magnets – just in case Paul67 thought I was wanting a free kitchen ;-)


    I’ll make a donation later when I hit home tonight.



    I would like to say happy birthday to my wee daughter and good luck in her new job as a Vet in Canterbury that she started on Monday. It can’t be much fun celebrating her birthday in a town where she does not know anybody :-(

  16. When I was a lad I delivered the Evening Times, the Saturday edition (Pink Times) had a Junior section on page 3. A wee red heided Blantyre player was mentioned frequently, he was a Junior Internationalists and going tae be oor wee wullie.



    Unfortunately, unlike the “bunion”, who replaced a current Scotland player in his club side, Jimmy was thrown intae a Raphael Celtic side.



    He also had a temper problem which would inevitably cause him problems on the field. After being sent off at the coup for an incident with tottie beck he only played sporadically the rest of the season, including horrendous losses at brockville and east end park, the latter days after we had beaten the same side in our first trophy winning game in 7 years 5 months and 6 days, he was also left out of that Final, his place taken by Charlie Gallagher, sometimes a manager has tae be lucky. In fact he only played in one SC game that season and that was the 2-2 (Joe McBride show) against the steelmen in the Semis.



    After a wee flourish at the start of his senior career he got a bit lost and was soon reckoned tae be surplus tae requirements, no not like the Buzz Bomb who Bob Kelly wanted tae sell, but by no other than Jock who wanted tae dump Jinky and big Yogi.



    Jinky however only wanted tae play for the leather belts and buckled down tae try and win his place back in the side.



    He made his way back intae the side for the start of the season but a very poor start by the club saw him back on the sidelines, he soon forced himself back intae the team and that magical October day at Hampden (no not 7-1 but almost as good) in a game this wee mhan here has always seen as the catalyst for the honest NIAR and the Big Cup he tore the iron curtain defence apart in a 2-1 Yogi penalties victory. Jinky never looked back and neither did we.



    I can name hundreds and I mean literally hundreds of games where that wee mhan lifted the fhans and the team tae heights we will never see again, well not in my lifetime.



    But one I recall with pure delight is a replay of the SC on a mild night at the national ground, the score was 2-1 for the good ghuys but that score flatters the stinkin.



    Big ham and egg was notorious for running off the park as soon as the final whistle went refusing tae shake hands with our players, that night though he walked over tae the wee magician and raised his hand in a victory salute.



    Jimmy Johnstone, we will NEVER see your likes again.

  17. Pog



    A very happy birthday to your daughter, I’m sure she’ll enjoy it nonetheless.



    Can I also say many happy returns to one of the best that I’ve met through these pages.



    Mighty Tim, a fine Tim and a lovely, warm and decent man. Have a great day son.

  18. Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles on

    Thanks guys. HT I’ve signed and posted the resolution for the minimum living wage, it should be with you this week.


    Mighty Tim have a great birthday.

  19. sixtaeseven - Gardez la Foi on

    Tontine Tim @ 03:01



    Great post about the greatest ever Celt.


    Like you, I was lucky enough to see him play hunners a times!



  20. Must have missed all the posts insulting Scotland and its people.



    Out of order ..if true.



    Unless it’s Scottish Huns. Good enough for them. Bleedin zombies

  21. Proudbhoy,


    It was a deflect and run type post, he just tried to justify racist comment on the grounds that racism was common in the 50’s so racist terms never offended any white people at the time, complete drivel but to be expected.

  22. Someone raised a very good point about DD losing interest long time ago and not willing to invest or gamble any money to move us forward.



    Pretty spot on in my book, as long as he isn’t losing millions every year he is happy to stay , people have said before PL is only doing what he is asked to do. Seems to add up anyway.



    Without a doubt we are stuck in a dead end league, watched video on fbook yday. Highlights of last games against the old Huns. It was lively and exciting. Their return weather we like it or not will boost interest in the SPL even if only in the short term.

  23. DD has made his money out of Celtic, how long has the club been paying him £600K a year ? on a loan he and his puppets on the board refuse to pay back to ensure he gets that amount every year.


    He is a long term investor he will sit on the club bleeding it until he can make a killing, how long did he sit on the dock in London before it became a prime site for an airport, if anyone thinks he has any allegiance to Celtic is either kidding themselves or a moron.

  24. Tim Malone Will Tell on

    Someone else posted an article last week about the real prospect that the EPL Chumps League places being cut to 3 rather than 4.


    If that comes to pass – allied to uncertain telly streams – watch out for huge ripples about to hit English fitba’.



    The top 4 is a cosy cartel in the EPL – currently, one of them dropping out for a season might be considered as a recoverable “blip”.



    But only a top 3?….I would expect toys to be thrown out of prams.

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