Dickson: Okay, it should have been lodged with the SPL then

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The transcript for the HMRC v Rangers First Tier Tribunal (FTT) runs to 1126 pages. It will take weeks, perhaps months, to distil the content into what remains relevant to the SFA’s decision to reject the SPFL’s request to review issues surrounding Rangers EBTs. For today:

Current SFA Council member (and Newco Rangers Head of Football Administration), Andrew Dickson, was cross-examined by Mr Thomson (representing HMRC).

On 18 April 2011, Mr Thomson asked Mr Dickson why a Trust schedule was not lodged with the football authorities, Mr Dickson replied:

It should not “Not necessarily” have been lodged.

When asked by Mr Thomson “What possibly basis do you have for saying that it should not have been lodged?”

Mr Dickson replied, “The SPL didn’t – never contacted us coming looking for it”.

After failing to convince Mr Thomson that lodging the schedule late rendered there no point to lodging it at all, Mr Thomson puts him on the spot:

“I’m asking you about the fact that it should have been lodged. It’s supposed to be lodged early. Just because you don’t lodge it timeously, doesn’t mean to say that you’re not then under an obligation to lodge it, Mr Dickson.”

To this, Mr Dickson concedes:

“Okay, it should have been lodged with the SPL then.”

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A current SFA Council member, in a court of law, accepted that Oldco Rangers did not lodge paperwork to the SPL relating to EBT payments, which he accepted should have been lodged.

Mr Dickson’s SFA colleagues decided to reject the SPFL’s request for a review into the matter. You can draw your own conclusions as to why.

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  1. THE EXILED TIM on 18TH SEPTEMBER 2017 2:21 PM

     

    Starry

     

     

    I’m sure there is, I will go and look for a few………I may be some time tho, so don’t hold your breath :-)

     

     

     

    Dont.The last person to say,”Just stepping out,I may be some time”,was never seen again.Then again,I dont suppose you have a blizzard there.

  2. !!BADA BING!! on 18TH SEPTEMBER 2017 2:29 PM

     

    Celtic evens on Saturday with Ladbrokes, fill yer boots, won’t be evens on Saturday…

     

     

     

    Boots already filled.

  3. So sorry to hear of Paul Wilson’s passing away. A great player who gave me many fond memories. I read a few years ago that he now lived in Milngavie but never saw him around. RIP Paul. Gone too soon.

     

     

    Hail! Hail!

  4. I think that as well as Regan, Ogilvie, Dickson and Bryson I always thought it was very convenient Gordon Smith was the top man at the SFA during a period where Champions league qualification was a near necessity. He then chucks it and comes back a year or two later to work for Rangers. Then again maybe I’m just cynical.

     

     

    RIP Paul Wilson. I have many a great memory of you.

  5. Thoughts and prayers with Paul Wilson, his family and friends at this sad time.

     

    A very talented Hunskelper.

     

     

    HH

  6. Really sorry to hear of the passing of Paul Wilson, thought he was a great player but didn’t get enough game time. Must admit to laughing when I recall the superb wit of the huns singing “Wilson’s a Darkie”, really witty!!

     

    Our reply at the time was ” I’d rather be a darkie than a hun”, another fine piece of sparkling wit,hmm.

     

     

    I was convinced he was Italian and brother of Guisseppe Wilson who played for Italy, must be wrong.

     

     

    Paul Wilson, RIP

     

     

    KINGLuBO

  7. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    CELTIC MAC on 18TH SEPTEMBER 2017 1:42 PM

     

     

    Yep, it’s a nice wee colloquial word.

     

     

    KTF

  8. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    As far as comments about Celtic outspending all other teams in the SPFL goes: Brendan Rodgers has answered them back very cutely.

     

     

    He says Rangers are really challenging for the title this season, because they spent more than anyone else in Scotland this year!

     

     

    No real comment from SMSM to that one!

     

     

     

    KTF

  9. RIP Paul Wilson,

     

     

    One of my schoolboy heroes when I was travelled over Scotland on the St. Bartholomew’s CSC bus out of Castlemilk. I knew from my local hun neighbours that he was feared even more than the likes of Dalglish, Macari and any of the rest of the Quality Street Gang. Hence the “Wilson’s a darkie” chants from the great unwashed whenever we played them. I seem to recall our response “I’d rather be a darkie than a hun” wasn’t much better. He was also nicknamed “Toumai” the young Indian boy from the TV series Elephant Boy by some of our younger supporters. Different days back then …. at least for us.

  10. Not one tweet (apart from mine) not one headline, or tv broadcast news on Joe O’Rourke’s letter to Regan, and I think I would be right in as far as I know, he would come under the category of “A High Ranking Celtic Supporter ” funny that eh?

  11. MARRAKESH EXPRESS on 18TH SEPTEMBER 2017 2:10 PM

     

    Paul Wilson RIP. Underrated player in my opinion. Suffered racist abuse at the hands of ‘you know who’, which was unsurprisingly passed off as banter by the msm.

     

     

    *to be fair Marra after the GC final and the Wilson’s a paddy malarkey chant, much worse was Wilson’s maw’s deid in relation to his mother passing the week of the SC Final where he was a standout scoring 2 that day, James Sanderson in the express went after them saying that their bigotry was bad enough but now they had sunk tae a new low with racism.

     

     

    He had a younger brother who was in my cousin’s class and who gave me a tap that Paul had given him which I wore tae the San Siro in 1970.

  12. Paul Wilson

     

     

    Came from Milngavie -went to Secondary School in Kirkintilloch ( St Ninians ) .

     

     

    Milngavie was ( and probably still is a bastion of uber Hundom )

     

     

    I had a memorable encounter with a blootered moron in a boozer called the Black Bull on the night of the day the day The Deady Bears lost to Berwick . Not a place I frequented but I was there to see a man about a dog ( who was late -of course -they always were ).

     

     

    Great choon from 67 -a very good year –

     

     

    https://youtu.be/IbxBPwzUX1o

  13. M6BHOY on 18TH SEPTEMBER 2017 3:02 PM

     

     

    RIP Paul Wilson,

     

     

    One of my schoolboy heroes when I was travelled over Scotland on the St. Bartholomew’s CSC bus out of Castlemilk. I knew from my local hun neighbours that he was feared even more than the likes of Dalglish, Macari and any of the rest of the Quality Street Gang. Hence the “Wilson’s a darkie” chants from the great unwashed whenever we played them. I seem to recall our response “I’d rather be a darkie than a hun” wasn’t much better.

     

     

    *beg tae differ as that was banter as was the “I’d rather wear a turban than a sash”.

     

     

    He was also nicknamed “Toumai” the young Indian boy from the TV series Elephant Boy by some of our younger supporters.

     

     

    *cannae see any fault in that either

  14. The Boss.

     

     

    Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers says it remains to be seen whether Rangers’ spending will enable them to close the gap on the champions.

     

     

    “We’ll see,” he said, when asked if there would be more of a challenge from Ibrox this term.

     

     

    Rodgers declined to elaborate on his previous remarks that Pedro Caixinha outspent him in summer transfer fees.

     

     

    Rodgers revealed fit-again Dedryck Boyata is in the squad for Wednesday’s League Cup quarter-final at Dundee.

     

     

    The Celtic manager described the tie at Dens Park as the first of a series of “great games” that he is looking forward to in the next 10 days, including trips to Ibrox and Anderlecht.

  15. Paul 67

     

     

    When you join the date dots you find Dickson’s credibility is stretched beyond breaking point.

     

     

    Part of the questioning put to him was if he had any knowledge of HMRC ever asking RFC questions about the Remuneration Ebts. That will be the DOS ebts first used under the REBT Rumeration Employee Benefits Trust.

     

     

    That was on the 18th April too. Dickson denied any knowledge of any enquiries.

     

     

    The day after his FTT testimony the SFA on 19th April granted RFC the UEFA 2011 licence.

     

    Dickson was a member of the Licensing Committee and will have known the basis on which it was grante, but did he know that basis was untrue?

     

     

    The ideas that Dickson was unaware that the liability was not potential and, more importantly, the basis on which it was accepted in the first place (RFC lieing to HMRC) are ones that must be explored by the SFA under the investigation they have put to their Compliance Officer.

     

     

    That investigation must also look into what Regan discussed with Dickson on 6th Dec the day before he sent him that infamous e mail setting out the reasons the licence was granted, which are now the basis for an investigation taking place as liability was neither potential or under discussion.

     

     

    As I have posted a couple of times this investigation simply cannot be left solely in the hands of the SFA Compliance Officer.

     

     

    Apart from questions regarding his suitablity as a result of correspondence with Res12 lawyers, there is too much in the public arena and held privately by Celtic for Regan not to be part of an investigation.

     

     

    The terms of reference should be part of discussions before the investigation gets underway and Celtic because they are answerable to shareholders and because of what the evidence suggests, should be making sure those terms take into account Dicksons FTT testimony, what he knew about the wee tax case and when liability accepted, what he told the Lic Comm and just as important what he didn’t say when he should have in his role as a Licensing official.

     

     

    Any investigation without UEFA input or oversight that does not embrace the whole episode from 2010 to 2016 will simply be seen as SFA covering their own tails a well as Dickson.

  16. TIMJIM on 18TH SEPTEMBER 2017 3:16 PM

     

    Tony

     

     

     

    Iam sure he’ll get a mention on Fester Fester

     

     

     

    Oh aye and that will be it, .

     

    Calling the head of football a cheat and a liar isn’t news? Nice one Joe, you got them running scared mate, they dare not touch it, that’s how guilty they are.

  17. AULDHEID

     

     

    I agree with all of the above but CFC are also answerable to season ticket holders not just shareholders that gets kept out to often, not all season ticket holders have shares, but part of that money they pay CFC also goes in the the hat marked SFA money, imo. That is.

  18. Sad to learn of the passing of Paul Wilson. Ages with myself.

     

     

    He was part of what was potentially, imo, our best ever squad: the Quality Street Gang.

     

     

    May he rest in peace and my condolences to his loved ones.

  19. Paul Wilson RIP

     

     

    I was in the same year as Paul at St Ninian’s in Kirkintilloch and played in the same school team as him on a few occasions. He was a brilliant footballer and was nice and friendly and patient with those of us with less talent.

     

     

    I had an assist in one game when I passed the ball at kick off to Paul and he dribbled through the opposing team to score.

     

     

    Condolences to his Family.

  20. R.I.P. Paul Wilson

     

    Whenever he got the ball he made a bee line for the opposition penalty box.

     

    Thought with his family & friends.

  21. TONTINE TIM on 18TH SEPTEMBER 2017 3:17 PM

     

    M6BHOY on 18TH SEPTEMBER 2017 3:02 PM

     

     

     

    RIP Paul Wilson,

     

     

     

    One of my schoolboy heroes when I was travelled over Scotland on the St. Bartholomew’s CSC bus out of Castlemilk. I knew from my local hun neighbours that he was feared even more than the likes of Dalglish, Macari and any of the rest of the Quality Street Gang. Hence the “Wilson’s a darkie” chants from the great unwashed whenever we played them. I seem to recall our response “I’d rather be a darkie than a hun” wasn’t much better.

     

     

     

    *beg tae differ as that was banter as was the “I’d rather wear a turban than a sash”.

     

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    I know what I heard and can remember (and in all honesty) probably sung both. I was as daft as any teenager was back in the early to mid seventies.

     

     

     

    He was also nicknamed “Toumai” the young Indian boy from the TV series Elephant Boy by some of our younger supporters.

     

     

     

    *cannae see any fault in that either