Our old friend Cognitive Dissonance was at play again last night. Hearts manager, Paolo Sergio, seemed to accept Stephen Elliot’s second minute attempt was cleared so quickly officials might not have had a chance to ascertain if it crossed the line, but he tried to reconcile his frustration at this reality by publicly adopting a position which, on reflection, he should accept is in contravention to the rules of the game.
Elliot’s attempt struck Joe Ledley, who was standing on the line with his arms stationary and by his side, before being cleared by Fraser Forster.
Sergio said, “If you don’t see the ball over the line then you should see the handball which is a penalty and a red card.”
It’s scarcely credible that the Hearts manager is unaware of the rules of the game which clearly establish that for a handball offence to be committed the player needs to deliberately use a hand or arm to play the ball, not have the ball played against his stationary hand or arm.
No one had much of a clue whether the ball had crossed the line or not until after watching multiple TV replays and even then, while I can understand the attacking team claiming a goal, TV evidence does not provide conclusive proof that the whole of the ball crossed the line.
This will no doubt be the source of Sergio’s frustration; his team could have taken the lead but didn’t. Armed with this frustration he then created a false scenario which allowed him to reconcile his feelings of grievance.
What a shower. Struggling to operate in the SPL and pay tax, disorganised team structure and afflicted by football’s Cognitive Dissonance epidemic.
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philvisreturns: 9 February, 2012 at 12:58
“I didn’t understand then the emotional reaction that Neil Lennon inspires in people who suffer from an atavistic hatred of Irish Catholics who don’t know their place.”
And his place is at the top of the league of course.
erm, sorry bout the way that reads
HH
dirtymac at 13:12
Was thinking that. The stats referred to previously probably related to league games which was the old Premier Division.
Mort
Belated happy birthday to Martin42, hope you had as good a time as your well wishers.
Happy birthday to Snakes and Jinkyredstar
hail hail
Paul67
I wonder when we will get the SFA Mafia and Media Monkeys speech from Mad Vlad…
HH
Snake Happy Birthday from the Hebrides. If you decide to tackle Keevins about the Sky TV deal could you ask him if he has seen or been told such a 4 game OF deal existsif so who told him. Also what would happen if in the unlikely event either us or them failed to make the top 6 at the the split. His argument isflawed and he knows it you are the man to take apart. Hail Hail Hebcelt
Mort says:
9 February, 2012 at 13:15
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I think so too, his first season back from the leg break, it took him a fair while to get scoring in the SPL, then he scored in something like 862 consecutive SPL matches, sometimes scoring 15 or more in one game.
Or at least, that’s how I remember it. :-)
Mort: 9 February, 2012 at 12:58
“Going for a nice colourful plate. Some mint ice cream, a bit of vanilla and some orange jelly.”
That’s an exceptional presentation. I’d get a picture of that before I wired in.
You should get yourself on that Masterchef. That sounds like a winner.
Snake
What you have done is something the Scottish media will not do and that is to try to at least analyse and research ideas which may help other clubs if the huns get liquidated.
For me this is the single biggest point that Celtic fans phoning Clyde are missing a trick on.
They are doing the interests of the Scottish game a massive disservice by not even hypothetically discussing potential ways to make up any financial shortfall in the game which at the moment is still not proven fact.
The medias unwillingness to do this simply reinforces the idea that Celtic and the support are dealt with more negatively than our rivals.
Not sending this to be awkward, just my opinion..
P67 – I think a bit unfair on Mr Sergio.
Probably few will agree but under him the idea of playing football rather than hammer throwing seems to be his objective. Of course you can’t take the black out of Ian Black, nor turn around an entrenched philosophy overnight but I think he is a stylish & intelligent coach.
Also although his English is good I think some allowance can be made. Clearly he had been briefed by his backroom staff and has just spoken parrot-fashion. I think any remarks by any coach of any team immediately after a match (especially a losing one) are not much to be trusted. If I had my way I would ban them, illiberal chap that I am.
Hearts ‘goal’ – I’d invite everbody to consider if, had it been Celtic who’d not been awarded the goal, whether the same messages would be posted? How many ‘Ref/Assistant right not to award a goal as they were clearly unsighted’ / ‘whole of the ball not crossed the line’ / ‘never a hand ball’ would have been seen?!?!?
:-)
Snakes P…
what about an ‘old firm memorial cup challenge’, were the defunct old firm play 4 times over the season :o)
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JoePhilipis..
Re;Fraser Foster..
No Not worried about Big FF..Leaving the Opposite..He wrote in a Article before the Hearst Penalty save he was Playing for a Good Contract (See Kayal)..And only Outstanding performances would get Him that..
Celtic probably had there Chance to Sign him and Hedged their Bets..So good Luck to FF..
As You say With the SPL and Champions League football..He will Deserve a Better Contract and Only a Move to the Top 4 Down Sarf would top Celtic..
Everybody’s a Winner..
Summa
Follow Follow thread on the Bhoys singing last night… they wanted it reported to eufa…someone asked what songs were being sung :
“no huns in scotland”
“boys of the old brigade”
“go on home british soldiers”
“soldiers are wee”
to name a few
yet nothings done
Keevins :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubfxnkq9pls&feature=related
Least we forget.
H H
Steinreignedsupreme at 13:20
Not sure about the flavour combinations but presentation will be awesome.
If on Masterchef I could also do a vegitarian main course. Brocolli, potatoes and carrots. Winner.
Mort
The trick with big FF is that he will not get the money he is getting now, which is probably why he decided to keep things the way they are till the end of the season, the better he plays till the end of the season the better his contract offer will be.
He has put all th pressure on Celtic to come up with an offer he wants, pretty shrewd stuff from the big mhans advisors IMO.
Steinreignedsupreme – Yes, and Neil has grown into the role and will continue to learn and refine his approach and improve as a manager.
That awful blip in form early this season aside, the stats show that the more time he has spent working with his players, the better his team has become.
Compare that with the hapless McCoist, who is having the opposite effect on the winning team he inherited from the dignified Cardigan.
It’s almost enough to make you feel sorry for Super Ally, who should now be known as Jumbo Ally.
In the classic sports film “Dodgeball”, the baddie ends up fat and alone, cursing the name of Chuck Norris.
Poor Ally isn’t far off meeting a similar fate.
Here’s an investment tip for you: TV repairs are going to be a booming business in Scotland come the end of this season. (thumbsup)
13 to go!
I never dreamed we would be 4 points clear and playing so well, when I was sitting with my head in my hands at half time against Killie wondering how we could give Aunt Sally such an easy title.
But then the ‘Quality Street Kids’ rose to the occasion and we have not looked back.
Nothing won yet, but I am fair enjoying myself…
HH
Seriously, they are having a laugh!
Aberdeen manager Craig Brown has been named Clydedale Bank Premier League manager of the month for January.
The Dons won two of their four league matches last month and also claimed draws against Kilmarnock at home and Rangers away.
neveralone @ 13.21
I am mainly in agreement with your post.
JJ
Philvis
Neil Lennon is not a success with his players,how can he be when he looks ‘scruffy and undignified’ in a tracksuit at games,whilst Alistair adorns a suit and brown brogues?
Honestly!
philvisreturns says:
9 February, 2012 at 13:33
you make an interesting point, we were slow starters with a group of new players and having to play twice a week from the start of the season. As a team we have grown and improved , the playersnow know the system Neil is asking them to play and are adapting it as each game requires.
across the city they started well , in the main it was smiths team that continued on with the new centre backs still protected with 5 across the middle. Over the last few months they have become a poor side that are loosing cheap goals , its the same players so does this bring in to question super swally’s coaching or lack of it.
still smiling after last night , is their a channce we can win every game till the end of the season ?
Some time ago, a poster on here recommended Gulf Keystone Petroleum as a good investment. One poster, at least, dismissed the tip. GKP were then £1.92 and went down to £1.02. They are now £3.37. Who was that tipster?
JJ
See FPLG has been sounded out about a job with SKY, he said ” Ave never put up a dish before, but Im willing to give it a go “,Taxi for Tam
Doug C
I have a simpler view…..Rangers were lucky and we were unlucky. Now, Rangers are poor (!) and we are in a rich (!) vein of form.
JJ
Name the infamous pundit who will not use any of the words in my monicker at any point during the course of their Radio or newspaper punditry/journalism (sic)?
If you need a clue. Click on the monicker.
Radio woman with a lovely , throaty Roman accent has just said —-
” England appoint Stuart Pearce as Caretaker Manager —— ”
Is that the Stuart Pearce who racially abused Paul Ince ?
Is that the Stuart Pearce whose brother was a BNP candidate ?.
Is that the Stuart Pearce who has pals who are into that EDL thing?
Is that the same Stuart Pearce who used to attend gigs featuring Oi bands ?
Augurs well !
On ff no huns in Europe is equal to ethnic cleansing. Good to see they recognise themselves!! H H
Lennon n Mc….Mjallby – Neil Lennon is not a success with his players,how can he be when he looks ‘scruffy and undignified’ in a tracksuit at games,whilst Alistair adorns a suit and brown brogues?
I applaud Alistair’s suit and brown brogues combo.
In fact, I’m wearing a pair of handmade English mid tan brown leather brogues right now, and nothing else but a smile.
They say you shouldn’t dress for the job you have, but for the job you want.
In this uncertain job market, it’s only right that Jumbo Ally would want to present himself in the best possible light to potential future employers.
He’s a likeable cheeky chap with a twinkle in his eye and an obvious love of food.
Perhaps he could work in a Greggs. (thumbsup)
South Of Tunis – Mostly guilt by association there, eh? (thumbsup)
Snake & Lennon n Mc…M
Too true!
I hope Celtic are sounding out others within SFA SPL SFL & broadcasters over possible Rangers RIP solutions.
Are there some Celtic carrots with which to intice the others and the authorities would we as supporters accept them? For example:
1) A 5% (?) gate share for away clubs. Good for cash flow for most other clubs; not much of a burden to Celtic.
2) Restart ticket handling for all away games with a more modest handling fee.
3) ANY club qualifying for GROUP stages of Euro competitions waives domestic league TV income for distribution to the others. TV money is not hugely significant to Celtic & Euro income is substantially more (even Euroleague).
4) Scot Cup ties made more attractive to TV by abolishing replays – guaranteed a result on the day of transmission.
5) A new 14 club league still with a split. Pre-split: 26 home & away ties. Split 6/8. Top 6 h&a = 10games, 36 total. Bottom 8 h&a = 14 games, 40 total.
Does away with current post split h&a imbalance. 5 teams get their 4 games v Celtic.
Bottom 8 get 4 more income games.
Final bottom 2 go into play-offs with top 2 of SFL. Opportunity for sponsorship & TV.
What do you think? A starter for 10?
DougC – still smiling after last night , is their a channce we can win every game till the end of the season ?
Doug, on present form, it’s got to be worth putting a cheeky fiver on it if you’re into gambling.
Of course, as soon as we lose a game we’d better batten down the CQN hatches and break out the bleach as the Timposter Confederacy Of Dunces will be back. (thumbsup)
philvis
Have you been visiting State Schools or Council Estates? You are beginning to make some pertinent comments.
JJ
Mort: 9 February, 2012 at 13:28
“Not sure about the flavour combinations but presentation will be awesome.”
Your choice of sweet will also cross the Scottish football divide.
That Grandmaster chef always uses orange jelly.
Philvis —–
Agreed . I try to avoid logical fallacies but some do more flying with the crows than others.
Philvis
Your such a cad but I like yo!
philvisreturns says:
9 February, 2012 at 13:59
Any relation to philvisreturns 2 ? that ghuy had right good patter.
neveralone
Abolish Scottish Cup replays and we will never ever see Celtic play at Parkhead for that trophy. Ever think about that?