The details of the SPFL’s agreement with league title sponsor cinch and Newco, which ends the legal dispute between league and club, have not been revealed, but what has been announced is not a good look for the governing body.
Newco, whose board is chaired by a car retailer, refused to display cinch branding, citing an existing deal with their chairman’s firm. The new deal permits Newco to opt out of requirements to display cinch logos, which will remain in place for other clubs.
An SPFL statement confirmed Newco “are no longer required to participate by providing the sponsorship inventory that they have so far not provided, whilst, crucially, the overall income to Scottish football is expected to remain materially unchanged.” Newco claimed the agreement is a “full vindication of our stance”.
It seems unlikely that other clubs would be required to display cinch inventory that Newco are excused from, without a corresponding reduction in payment to Newco. Other clubs have vehicle sponsorships, including Celtic’s deal with Intelligent Car Leasing, without being permitted to drop the cinch logos.
SPFL chief exec, Neil Doncaster, may be the ultimate pragmatist, cutting a deal that costs no club other than Newco, but league rules and commercial deals should be sufficiently robust to prevent tawdry challenges like this. Newco’s statement reiterated their desire to force Doncaster out of the league, citing their “wide-ranging concerns regarding the corporate governance of the SPFL.” I suspect Doncaster retains sufficient backing from other clubs to continue to hold the line against Newco.
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Just one more consequence of the moral hazard flowing from allowing and abetting the pretence that they’re the same club.
So suck it up.
The decision to ensure that a version of ‘the Rangers’ thrives and survives continues to be aided and abetted by all in this country’s governing establishment, including our own Club.
This spat is just another outworking of that fawning strategy.
Nothing to see here. Another one will come along soon to replace it.
HH
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Is Scottish football the most corrupt in Europe?
Do most Celtic fans know more sevco directors than they do Celtic?
Have our board ever challenged anything?
If so, have they ever won?
Our powder must be bone dry by now.
Let’s keep with those Parks buses. Seems like a good idea
Pathetic climbdown from Doncaster, not in any other league would a Club get away with this,the hums have a tyre sponsor among the 8 or so on their jerseys, the Europa League has a tyre sponsor, why no protest there? Absolute cowards.
* huns.
..but hums has a certain ring to it.
The Ibrox club and their fans will already be portraying this as a victory for their clumpany.
Other Celtic bloggers are stating this is a defeat for Neil Doncaster.
You, Paul, are free to assert, I this vacuum of uncommunicated information, that Doncaster has his back covered by all the other clubs.
However, the absence of any spoken, written or observable backing by any official spokesperson from any official club, should not fill Neil Doncaster full of confidence.
Unspoken or private backing is not worth the paper that it is not written on.
Bada,
I read the other day that they’ve had quite a few sponsors that have clashed with the league’s sponsors in the past, but have said nothing.
Ladbrokes with the league and some online betting company springs to mind.
What it all boils down to is – they’re t@dgers
“The decision, very clearly from the commission, was that the club is the same, the club continues, albeit it is owned by a new company, but the club is the same.”
Wee calmac on the chat
https://twitter.com/ravens2007fc/status/1537363334441345027?t=OddltTji4s-nzTaqEawONw&s=19
HH
If there’s been no corresponding reduction in their league payments then Doncaster is demonstrably failing to hold the line.
All macho posturing and ignorant binary takes aside this is probably good for Scottish football.
Pragmatism will always be unpopular among Scottish football clubs, but when you have a playground bully keeching in his hand and throwing it at anyone who gets in his way you have to choose your battles.
The game in general, and us and Sevco could do with concentrating energies on more productive enterprise than public squabbles. The atmosphere created by them and by all of us if we’re honest is dangerous and doesn’t help anyone, and most importantly Celtic
I remember a shirt advert on Ajax shirts stopped the game in 1982 being shown in the UK. I still remember staring at the wireless in my bedroom (full of pop and footie posters and Airfix kits hanging from the ceiling) and going nuts when Richard Park announced that McCluskey had scored
https://youtu.be/htgr3pvBr-I
There’s a cottage industry that exploits the hatred, it’s not just individuals who have their own agendas to push (not Paul67 by the way).
It’s the administrators’ jobs to ignore the hysteria and do what’s best for all the clubs, and by extension all the fans. I’m like everyone else, I don’t know if enough about what’s happened in the past to know whether this happened in the past, it does look like he’s made mistakes, but this does seem to be an effort to do what’s right for all of us.
Or maybe he’s doing it to save his own skin 🤷♀️
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 16TH JUNE 2022 12:26 PM
Administrators don’t feel the need to put everything in the public domain, nor should they. Especially when it would trigger the sort of confrontation they’re trying to avoid
!!BADA BING!! on 16TH JUNE 2022 12:23 PM
* huns.
..but hums has a certain ring
Ye…hum scum..
Do me mate🍀🍀
AN TEARMANN
I do enjoy listening to Calmac, cheers for the share.
‘It’s nice to have principles, Rodney, but business is business’
Del Trotter.
The hun board are as ignorant and brass necked as their support hence the reason they are happy to fight with everyone/anyone in the room that doesnt follow their tune. Much like the tories they support too…Lets hope there is a boardroom leak which confirms they have taken a hit on their due dough from Cinch. Horrible species who live to see the game in Scotland die and allow them to play in England under their queens banner.
Peter Lawwell 30/8/2014 :
“When Rangers went down we took £100 off the season tickets,” Lawwell said. “So that is £4m for two years. The Rangers games, that is at least another £3m. The fact there is a perception among our supporters that there is no competition and you are going to win anyway, and you don’t go to the game, so it could be £10m. We could have lost £10m a year, quite easily, on the back of Rangers going down.” Source: The Herald.
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Celtic stay silent on this, and numerous other issues, because the PLC board need their partner club. Nothing comes before the profit/dividend model of Dermot’s plaything. Nothing.
Just catching up and read the article yesterday about Tam Courts. I understand that he was not universally liked at the club so it didn’t surprise me that he moved on. Also the fact thatUnited didn’t stand in his way or demand a fee backs up what I have heard.
Celtic stay silent on this and other issues because they don’t want to waste their time wrestling in the crap with the Huns
They’d rather spend their time and effort doing the best for the club, not giving the Huns the lifeblood of the “ old firm rivalry” to sell season books and price-fixed replica shirts.
The business has a finite amount of time, waste it on fighting and we won’t do other things as well, that much is guaranteed
Personally, i think this is more to do with saving Doncaster’s skin than anything else, they want him removed so they can have a more compliant individual in charge, just how much more compliant beggars belief as they have every advantage going, both overt and covert.
Ernie’s podium post sums it up succinctly and maybe we dont see the whole picture thru the prism of scottish footballs best interests and why would we, i couldnt give a flying ……… about Scottish football, theyd like nothing better than if it were us in the position of triggers broom, as history has shown.
If it pisses off hundido’s then im all for it
Last we heard this was going to arbitration. Does anyone know if this is the outcome/ruling of the arbitration panel, or did they reach a “settlement”?
Read the SMSM’s reporting of the story.
Rangers will profit from new cinch deal.
Read between the lines.
It doesn’t say Rangers get full sponsorship payment from Cinch deal. They are playing games with their wording. If Rangers were paid £1 from the Cinch deal, it is still a profit and the reportage would be accurate.
They’re refusing to say Rangers received a reduced payment from the Cinch deal, because that would mean reporting negative news about them and that’s just not on.
Rangers were given and will next season receive a smaller percentage share than all other SPFL clubs, which is why the other clubs agreed to the new deal.
They couldn’t justify giving them nothing because by playing in the league they are taking part in Cinch sponsored matches, whether they like it or not.
As usual, everyone jumps on the bandwagon and calls the SPFL and the Celtic board cowards.
Try thinking for yourselves for once in your lives FFS.
Cinch win publicity wise
Other clubs get same money.
Sevco get less, if any.
Doncaster closes another sevco line of attack on him.
The only ‘win’ for sevco is being able to play to their rabid gallery yet. Their real objective in this dispute was not realised. To me it is another example of the tawdry tinpot operation that they are.
Jota probably spent more on his mad holidays than the sevvies took in from cinch sponsorship. Stoopid zombies
GLASSTWOTHIRDSFULL on 16TH JUNE 2022 12:28 PM
“The decision, very clearly from the commission, was that the club is the same, the club continues, albeit it is owned by a new company, but the club is the same.”
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And the above is why no one should have ant sympathy for Doncaster.
Obviously he was putting that line out with the full backing of Lawwell, and Doncaster in his position was the fall guy.
MARKIEBHOY on 16TH JUNE 2022 1:15 PM
Just catching up and read the article yesterday about Tam Courts. I understand that he was not universally liked at the club so it didn’t surprise me that he moved on. Also the fact that United didn’t stand in his way or demand a fee backs up what I have heard.
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What was their beef with him?
The answer is simple ask the huns
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61812503
IMHO, this thread demonstrates how good CQN is.
Enjoyable leader Pablo but ….
… this is one of those cases where the initial responses are more prescient than the article.
So respect to a number of the early responders.
The article is titled
“Doncaster continues to hold line against Newco”
Where is the evidence of that line being held?
More generally, I get the impression that the occasional (and not particularly passionate) defence of Doncaster is based on a premise of
“Be careful what you wish for. Next guy could be mair worser !”
If true, based on Doncaster’s record, I’m struggling to understand that thinking?
Hhmm.
A blog on orange order
https://randompublicjournal.com/2019/07/09/time-to-ban-the-orange-order/
HH
LAMBERT14 on 16TH JUNE 2022 2:07 PM
GLASSTWOTHIRDSFULL on 16TH JUNE 2022 12:28 PM
“The decision, very clearly from the commission, was that the club is the same, the club continues, albeit it is owned by a new company, but the club is the same.”
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Any rational person would start to wonder what exactly this ‘club’ consists of.
Does it have a constitution?
Does it have office bearers?
Does it have contractual capacity?
Can it be sued?
Under scrutiny the concept melts away to nothing.
And there’s a reason for that. The reason is the original club, which could answer yes to all those questions, was incorporated and that incorporated body eventually went bust and is being liquidated.
The whole thing is absurd, and those going along with the nonsense, even to the extent of not challenging it, are enabling it.
SONSOFERIN on 16TH JUNE 2022 1:34 PM
Last we heard this was going to arbitration. Does anyone know if this is the outcome/ruling of the arbitration panel, or did they reach a “settlement”?
SonsofErin,are you meaning this arbitration panel by the SFA? 👇 think as usual they protected their ‘works team’ 😇
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/19660786.sfa-pay-price-rangers-chairman-douglas-park-wins-legal-dispute-spfl-8m-cinch-sponsorship/
HH
Fixtures will have been announced by the time I wake up tomorrow. Beyond giddy!
JIMDOM on 16TH JUNE 2022 1:11 PM
Peter Lawwell 30/8/2014 :
“When Rangers went down we took £100 off the season tickets,” Lawwell said. “So that is £4m for two years. The Rangers games, that is at least another £3m. The fact there is a perception among our supporters that there is no competition and you are going to win anyway, and you don’t go to the game, so it could be £10m. We could have lost £10m a year, quite easily, on the back of Rangers going down.” Source: The Herald.
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JIMDOM
I recall that particular article being forensically broken down at the time here, then again it didn’t matter as our proxy owner ‘would play them every day’ according to 2012 interviews which occurred when they never had a league to play in iirc.(may be wrong:-)
This Cinch thing is about asserting an identity that was
ended in 2012.They are unhappy that eternally they will have to explain continually their own self harm and why they ‘wurr pitdoon’ and ‘demoteed’. Liquidation is a process not an accounting error
HH
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 16TH JUNE 2022 1:39 PM
I agree.