Alasdair Lamont’s article for BBC this evening after meeting SPL chief executive, Neil Doncaster, is bound to provoke debate. The article is titled, “Newco Rangers could avoid sanctions from SPL”, although that claim is not supported by any direct quote from Doncaster. It could be that Doncaster made a supporting comment which wasn’t covered in the article, or that Alasdair is extrapolating from Doncaster’s comment that he is “not entirely sure why a distinction is made between the two routes [CVA or a Newco] out of administration”.
Before we open on what Doncaster actually said, it’s worth pointing out that he has never previously indicated that a Newco was likely to gain access to the SPL without penalty, despite being asked this question directly on a number of occasions. Indeed, he has proposed a number of penalties for such an eventuality, although any decision will now rest with a general meeting of the clubs, which he will not have a vote at.
To what Doncaster said:
“Newco is typically the way businesses in general escape from administration.”
Oh no it’s not. Businesses, in general, conclude their period of administration either by emerging with a CVA or by going out of business. The swathes of business failures across the UK in recent years has seen only a tiny percentage phoenix as a Newco. This statement is erroneous and misleading.
Doncaster added:
“I am not entirely sure why a distinction is made between the two routes out of administration.”
Let me explain, Mr Doncaster. In Scottish football history, no club has ever come out of administration as a Newco. Ever. Third Lanark, Airdrieonians and Gretna all failed to achieve a CVA and went out of business. Morton, Clydebank (now Airdrie United), Motherwell, Dundee (twice) and Livingston (twice), all achieved a CVA and remained in football.
Mr Doncaster must think that we are all daft, have no access to Scottish football records and have a complete ignorance of how “businesses in general” operate. He wishes to provide a Newco-Rangers with direct access to the top league in Scottish football, the first time anything like this has ever happened. Perhaps being frank with us on this matter would be advisable.
Even if I was of a mind to agree with Doncaster that rules should be changed to allow Newco direct access to the SPL, his feeble attempts to convince fans of the merits of this idea would leave me ruing the inadequacy of his plan’s execution.
All of this will be a welcome distraction from the main issue for Doncaster. The SPL allowed last season to conclude without letting clubs or fans know if Rangers competed with ineligible players. They have been in possession of the information required for over six weeks now but have no intention of letting fans know the outcome until after Newco is voted into the league.
It’s too late now. Doncaster has had his chance to report and his inquiry has failed to do so. It has now been taken out of his hands. He has failed you and all Scottish football fans.
It’s time for football executives to relinquish power and for the old media, the fans, the new media and the authorities to take control.
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RIP Niamh
Send him to Doncaster.
Attrition warfare is a military strategy in which a belligerent side attempts to win a war by wearing down its enemy to the point of collapse through continuous losses in personnel and matériel.
Doncaster must go – NOW
doncaster is only positioning himself for when the tsunami hits.
He CANNOT keep 2 contracts under wraps without chairmens assistance & I would be expecting at least celtic & hibs to be asking questions before any vote on anything goes ahead.
Doncaster has no control over the BTC or anything to do with Hector ,
Doncaster is nothing but a self preserving failure not fit for office!!!!
I have other names for him but there are house rules. TICK TOCK .
TICK TOCK I expect this to overwhelm Doncaster SOONER rather than later.
HAIL HAIL
As I said many months ago, I’d rather Celtic played a seasons worth of friendlies than take any part in a fixed Hun infested SPL.
Doncasters finished, clueless
Paul67 et al
Inky Pinky Ponky
Whitey bought a Donkey
The Donkey died, Whitey cried
Inky Pinky Ponky!
Paul:
Apparently, in between:
“Newco is typically the way businesses in general escape from administration.”
and:
“I am not entirely sure why a distinction is made between the two routes out of administration.”
Doncaster said:
“It’s (NewCo) far more common than a CVA.”
There will stats out there to prove this is a lie, a whopping, great big lie…
Perhaps Celtic and another club or two could call for a vote of no confidence in Mr Doncaster?
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On another note, my sympathies to the family of little Niamh.
May she rest in peace and may hope be found for others similarly afflicted.
Doncaster…….
Coventry!
er, chicos
alex thomson @alextomo
What wind up?
Interesting.
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Rangers+-+Falling+Masonry
ElDiegoBhoy on 21 May, 2012 at 20:05 said:
I make spelling mistakes all the time ……. Are you calling me a bhun …?
Celtic genuinely want to sell anything for this SPL product ?
Quite clearly the games administrators have become so parasitic and powerful that we should ditch it entirely and just ask them how much they wish us to contribute to their life styles.
If we can try and categorise it as a charity donation then maybe a tax rebate could be possible.
I think we should keep our dignified silence and possibly make a call asking to dispense with real footballers and simulate the games. Think of the cost savings.
Still no FTT result! I think the politicians are awaiting liquidation first. Forget a CVA.
Ogilvie still in place
Doncaster whyte, miller, greens best pal still.
Not a whimper about Duff & Phelps performance.
No SPL inquiry conclusions still.
Have huns paid off their football debts?
Have unaudited huns been given any prize money for their efforts this year yet?
Any new sponsor announcements?
How is the new all open and honest SFA modernisation process progressing ?
Celtic working quietly in the background and dilligently obviously.
With the progress we are making on all these minor issues nobody should complain or have any doubts.
HH
Paul67
Assuming all pans out – according to plan (no CVA and liquidation) and the final Coup de grâce by HMRC – then I expect resignations from;
Doncaster
Ogilvie
and others (down to grass-roots level) within the SFA.
All the procrastination in the world will not save them – the end is nigh!
Joe – I agree.. No one man could be so misguided to make such a series of statements on his own. He is only the appointed head of an organisation of clubs that he represents. The clock is loudly ticking now though by th wound of it…
There will be no newco in the SPL next season.
It can’t happen Doncaster no matter what you say.
Irrelevant fool.
Son of Warsaw on 21 May, 2012 at 21:07 said:
I wish we had your confidence matey.
The clear assumption is that Doncaster’s gibberish is reflecting the way he believes the vote will go, again because those in power advise him so.
The same people that dismissed the truly atrocious treatment of Neil Lennon as being all his own fault, are now peddling the propaganda that Scottish football needs RFCIA. I hear it from grannies, pretend Thistle fans and sundry other gullible citizens.
Radio station employees and pundits on Clyde and Scotland recycle the same nonsense. We read today of the BBC’s casual reporting of nonsense from the Ch Exec of the SPL, passing it off as news. The same MSM that was a party to the cosy arrangement in Scottish football that allowed this scandal to brew unnoticed for 25 years, is now telling us what the SPL want us to hear.
RFCIA are a neccesary part of Scottish football regardless of what cheating and fraud they have practiced for decades.
Mr Doncaster, you had your ten minutes of fame and your time is up.
Michael Douglas CSC
The final sentence of the article reads:
“If approved, the rule changes will take effect immediately but will not be retrospective.”
This implies that they’d need to create a newco prior to 30 April to avoid sanctions. On the face of it, it would appear that they have no such thing in mind.
Surely these remarks by Doncaster should now bring into question HIS Integrity…..Maybe he’s got something to hide. If he did how would we ever know……???
Anyway, No need to wait for the news coming through of their re–introduction as a newclub….
The fact this situation is being discussed in such terms by SPL man Doncaster must now expose his bias towards condoning fraudulent and criminal actions of a member club to the detriment of all others.
Shameful stuff again…..
quite ironic that neil doncaster has mba after his name. must have been asleep or away when they did it.
Shortbread jeerleaders for their team…………..
…….Brown Brogues?
Brown ‘Rogues’……..
Hell mend them.
forgot to say that the Bhoy is off to Norwich tomorrow with a coachload of young tims. Look after him if you come across him , tall and good looking ( from his mother)
IMO Doncaster is being disingenuous …he must know what he is spouting is nonsense …..surely
I can’t wait for Wednesday night.
HH
jake the snake @celticservant
Follow Follow is in meltdown. Look what is hanging at Ibrox. On yirself @OfficialNeil http://pic.twitter.com/Ij11dGoD
jake the snake @celticservant
The @OfficialNeil jersey is in the study centre at Ibrox. It’s where school kids are taught to be tolerant. Follow Follow are spewing.
Ex Republic of Ireland hero Kevin Moran is a long time investor in football related investments headed by Charles Green …
If Doncaster does not understand the impact on tne SPL of a Newco being allowed in with no sanctions he is a fool.
Giving him the benefit of the doubt he is really preparing the way for a Newco with sanctions.
It is a matter of which will suggest integrity has not been lost.
kelvinbhoy, if you’re still around, apologies I was scrolling back a bit there.
Yes it was good to meet you too. I was a little bit harrassed as I hadn’t had much notice of the running order etc so apologies if you thought I was a little brief in my replies. I’m normally there at 6 on a Saturday so next time you’re passing do say hello again (but not in a Neil Diamond voice, please).
From bbc twitter
also told BBC had access to “treasure trove” of documents – far greater than anything seen by SPL inquiry in Rangers.
jake the snake @celticservant
Follow follow tolerant bigots talking about breaking into Ibrox & removing @OfficialNeil jersey. They’re putting up a bounty to remove it!
tom english tweet
Tom English@TomEnglishSport
Drums are beating ahead of the Mark Daly documentary on Rangers on BBC on Wednesday.If I was Neil Doncaster, I’d set up camp behind the sofa
jmccormick
hail Hail tell your Bhoy and his mates to come to the Templr bar in the afternoon there’ll be a good party going on . Where are they coming from?
HH
If Paul McBride (God rest him) was still around,Doncaster would be toast by now.UEFA must step in now and put all governing bodies on gardening leave,pending sackings.Even from within their 5 star offices in Nyon,they must know these organisations have been far too close to the huns ,from the start of football in this country.
What’s the deal between Alasdair Lamonts journalism and Mark Dalys?? How can one be so different from the other within the same corporation?
Paul67
I expect the SPL/SFA rules to be waived, that’s what Britannia does.
The implications of the moral dilemma that this places on Celtic and our support is unfathomable.
I don’t even want to think about it, but hope that Celtic have long and hard to offer a solution for Scottish Football, and not just our own support. The soundbites, and posturing from Doncaster may require Celtic to go public, sooner rather than later as
all we get, from officialdom and the conduit of MSM is a very unhealthy intimidatory ‘save Ragers’ environment.
This is not what Celtic fans want to hear, when so many are faced with making those illogical choices which may harm our own club.
Think hard Peter, think long, monitor the mood of the Celtic support, and let them know where we stand.
Paul67
Man, guys like me hate having to read between the lines.
Spit it out please.
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SwanseaBhoy