Alasdair Lamont’s article for BBC this evening after meeting SPL chief executive, Neil Doncaster, is bound to provoke debate. The article is titled, “Newco Rangers could avoid sanctions from SPL”, although that claim is not supported by any direct quote from Doncaster. It could be that Doncaster made a supporting comment which wasn’t covered in the article, or that Alasdair is extrapolating from Doncaster’s comment that he is “not entirely sure why a distinction is made between the two routes [CVA or a Newco] out of administration”.
Before we open on what Doncaster actually said, it’s worth pointing out that he has never previously indicated that a Newco was likely to gain access to the SPL without penalty, despite being asked this question directly on a number of occasions. Indeed, he has proposed a number of penalties for such an eventuality, although any decision will now rest with a general meeting of the clubs, which he will not have a vote at.
To what Doncaster said:
“Newco is typically the way businesses in general escape from administration.”
Oh no it’s not. Businesses, in general, conclude their period of administration either by emerging with a CVA or by going out of business. The swathes of business failures across the UK in recent years has seen only a tiny percentage phoenix as a Newco. This statement is erroneous and misleading.
Doncaster added:
“I am not entirely sure why a distinction is made between the two routes out of administration.”
Let me explain, Mr Doncaster. In Scottish football history, no club has ever come out of administration as a Newco. Ever. Third Lanark, Airdrieonians and Gretna all failed to achieve a CVA and went out of business. Morton, Clydebank (now Airdrie United), Motherwell, Dundee (twice) and Livingston (twice), all achieved a CVA and remained in football.
Mr Doncaster must think that we are all daft, have no access to Scottish football records and have a complete ignorance of how “businesses in general” operate. He wishes to provide a Newco-Rangers with direct access to the top league in Scottish football, the first time anything like this has ever happened. Perhaps being frank with us on this matter would be advisable.
Even if I was of a mind to agree with Doncaster that rules should be changed to allow Newco direct access to the SPL, his feeble attempts to convince fans of the merits of this idea would leave me ruing the inadequacy of his plan’s execution.
All of this will be a welcome distraction from the main issue for Doncaster. The SPL allowed last season to conclude without letting clubs or fans know if Rangers competed with ineligible players. They have been in possession of the information required for over six weeks now but have no intention of letting fans know the outcome until after Newco is voted into the league.
It’s too late now. Doncaster has had his chance to report and his inquiry has failed to do so. It has now been taken out of his hands. He has failed you and all Scottish football fans.
It’s time for football executives to relinquish power and for the old media, the fans, the new media and the authorities to take control.
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Just back in from an amazing dinner out with the wife & kids. Pizza- Oscars favourite!! We had a great time and I savoured every minute of it.
I updated the blog late last night. Feel free to drop in & have a read…
http://www.oscarknox.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/oscar-on-mend.html
Now to read back ;-)
Knoxy
Its because of the BBC Documentary that there are no awkward questions being asked of Doncaster Regan Ogilvie etc etc, it would only deflect from the programme if the questions that it will raise have already been answered by those who were given information prior to the broadcast, por cierto.
knoxy2000 eating Jelly and Ice Cream and supporting Neil Lennon on 21 May, 2012 at 21:25
Brilliant news mate
HH
hen1rik
Can they afford to splash out on a whole Bounty?
Or is it a fun size one?
Temple Bar not Templr bar
HH
Paul67:
…It’s time for football executives to relinquish power and for the old media, the fans, the new media and the authorities to take control…
That last line rekindles memories of my youth in my militant (with the emphasis on a small ‘m’) days when I was Sub and then Branch Secretary of the CPSA in the 80s…
Down with the establishment up with the new media and the Internet Bampots…power to technology and down with the draconian football executives and old media.
This year, 2012 will be one of the most momentous in our illustrious 125 years. There are those of us who did not witness or were too young to appreciate what happened on the 25th May 1967 in Lisbon, arguably our proudest day.
Those that have gone before us from this place would certainly have wanted to witness what will happen in the coming days. However, they will be with us in spirit and will look down with pride and tears in their eyes.
Those of us who are blessed with being in this place at this time should stand tall, chests puffed out, think of what has been achieved by taking back what is ours, I include all fans from whatever Club they support, as long as they stand up for what is right.
Remember those that have gone before us and will not be here to witness our 25th May 1967…not far off the the 45th anniversary.
Enjoy Tim Land for what we are about to witness. I will be 50 this year, I suspect I will be getting my present early.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
FollyFolly folly on fae the fine fishwits bounced outtae N.I. to continue propagating their evil tripe in the west of Scotland. I seriously believe they are trying to instigate civil disorder.
When are the absolootly upstanding Glaswegian boys in blue gonnae address The Boys In Blue,and their criminal bigotry? When, ffs?!
….And in tonights news, some late results just in……………
Investigative journalism 1 – Ardent Sycophancy – 0
BSR
i am refusing to renew my ST until this debacle is sorted
i will not be part of any league that the Hun newco are in
Jaroslaw Fojut @JaroslawFojut
Just want to confirm that I am not going to sign a contract with Celtic . I have failed to pass my medical examination
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Looks like Kelvin Wilson will be going to pre-season hypnosis, to convince himself he is a decent defender. Will be cheaper than sending all of us :-)
HH
CRC
dannysbeard on 21 May, 2012 at 21:19 said:
I have already pointed him in that direction, he will be one of the sensible ones (he has been warned !! );which speaks volumes about the rest of them. All Lanarkshire Bhoys, with a good football pedigree. Leaving 7am tomorrow morning by coach, heading back 11pm after match.
Neil Doncaster is a qualifiied solicitor. I know solicitors that, in describing them as half-wits, I would incur the wrath of the National Half-Wits Association. To say, however, that he is unclear as to the distinction between a CVA and a newco is quite simply a lie. He cannot be that ignorant. He’s at it.
Jobo Baldie on 21 May, 2012 at 21:17 said:
If you were harassed, it did not show. I should be at 6 a bit more now that football season is over. Will come and say hello again. Are you doing the 10k, I registered today and looking forward to my first race(crawl).
Bhoys & Ghirls
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HH
…….Oh Grimmond!!
What time is it?????
Monaghan
you`ll have gleaned i think he`s at it as well
TopCorner on 21 May, 2012 at 20:36 said:
125mins long but well worth a listen to, sometime
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I see the fan club still going strong … over two hours jeezo
In 205 mins.
Chris Hoy could win 205 gold medals
Ian Durrant could trip over his feet 205 times in the Orchard Park
Sally McCoist could eat 205 Broxy Burgers
HH
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setting free the bears on 21 May, 2012 at 21:27 said
Got to be a fun size one matey lol.
the other 10 teams in the SPL have lost significant prize money to the cheating huns this season alone, todays announcement should have been that huns prize money would be re-distributed to the other 10 teams below them in the table, yet not a peep out of them,their fans should be screaming for justice
no wonders Doncaster thinks scottish football fans are thick
HH
….PFayr on 21 May, 2012 at 21:27 said:
BSR
i am refusing to renew my ST until this debacle is sorted
i will not be part of any league that the Hun newco are in
Lads i know it must be hard for you but you are 100% correct integrity must always come first.
Imagine if this was a team in England they wouldn’t even consider bending the rules for them.
Auld Neil Lennon heid on 21 May, 2012 at 21:17
Basic morals and ethics don’t leave too much room for ‘benefit of the doubt’ in this affair.
If a ‘newco’ gets into the SPL, regardless of penalty or sanctions, the League is a sham and all that endorse it, in the name of the pound, are morally corrupt.
Doncaster either does the right thing or he should go, no comprimse extended to proven cheats and for sure… no accomodation of proven cheats.
Guys – have I missed something?
This season alone the huns have stolen c£13M off the taxpayer and used this money to run their club
What punishment has the SPL and Mr Doncaster dished out for this?
Time to get rid of this lickspittle
HH
Doncaster is not a fit and proper person to be the chief exec of the SPL. He is aiding and abetting corruption on a grand scale.
If the SPL was a PLC , Doncaster would have been sacked by now.
Even so his time is up. Celtic along with a small number of key SPL clubs need to push hard to foce his removal. It is clear he is not acting in the interests of our club or our shareholders and detailing what the Sky deal is worth without RIA (as Dundee utd articulated to Arab trust yesterday ).
In the short term, I would put in place an interim solution until a suitable replacement is found. If necessary , I would allow Eric Riley to leave Celtic and take over the role as interim and possibly for the long term. He has the gravitas, integrity, respect and commercial nous required. Although he is on the Celtic board from what I understand he has Rangers connections and would be seen as neutral.
Doncasters time is up.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 21 May, 2012 at 21:03
Well said good sir….
The proof is staring us in the face…..The script has been written and the panto continues to be played out…
What’s new there….!
HailHail
PF Ayr
He sure is my friend. He’s going to be exposed for what he is. Unfortunately, he’ll end up going back south with a shed load of cash.
HH
We are all looking forward to Mark Daly’s documentary and what it might reveal.
What I don’t quite understand is how Mr Daly and no one else got hold of such damning information (which we hope it is!).
Why is he the only one?
Also, in making the programme, there must have been a lot of people involved, such as cameramen, sound engineers and editors etc etc. All these guys must eat in the BBC canteen and have contact with other BBC employees.
You would think that whispers would reach the ears of Chico and Jabba yet they remain so bullish. Odd.
Scottish football has reached a crossroads; the events of the next few weeks and months could shape the long term future of the game. Integrity and fair play must be upheld, otherwise it all becomes a charade….a farce that we are asked to fund. I hope the BBC documentary is as hard-hitting as twitter is speculating it might be, this will put pressure on other clubs to put the wishes of their fans before their bank balances. The tide of reason could turn against Doncaster and TFOD in the next few weeks.
Paul67 et al
Neil Doncaster needs to be told, in no uncertain terms, that the rules and regulations of the SFA apply, not just to the member clubs, but to the SPL itself. As Chief Executive he has a specific duty to ensure that these rules are adhered to. If, as seems to be the case, he is unable, or more likely unwilling, to carry out this duty then perhaps it is time he turned his hand to a spot of gardening leave. Failing which he should be sacked!
While I don’t consider myself a happy clapper I expect our chairman , an ex senior partner/ chairman of a massively experienced corporate law firm and our CEO to tear Neil Doncaster a new one if he attempts to continue with his totally unjustifiable position that , legally , there’s no difference between a company exiting insolvency through a CVA and a company going into Liquidation and selling its trading name to a newly formed company.
If there’s no difference why have two separate procedures in the first place?
I dont believe for one second that Doncaster believes what he’s saying to be accurate. If he does I’d be asking for a refund for my tuition fees for my MBA let alone my law degree if I were him. If he doesn’t then he has to be asked , initially privately and thereafter publicly , to justify taking that position.
Either way his position is increasingly untenable. I think he’s a media junkie. Why can’t he just refuse to comment? If he feels he has to comment he should clarify on whose behalf he speaks. I don’t accept it’s on behalf of his member clubs. It’s certainly not on behalf of the bulk of fans of clubs other than rangers.
He needs to be put in his place by the chairmen of the other clubs and , most definitely , by the chairman of our club.
Time to flex some muscle , Mr Bankier.
DONCASTER MUST RESIGN
Doncaster is tying life belts to the Titanic.
I can’t believe there are fholk on here saying, “..see if that works, ah’ll no be happy!”
:)
Sit back and enjoy the show fholks and just think yourselves lucky that you are privileged to be a witness to the whole affair.
Remember though – Keep your eye’s open for the ones dressed as woman climbing into the life rafts. :))))
HAIL HAIL!
Rico
Knoxy:
The wee mans blog would soften the hardest of hearts- he’s looking great. What a smile. You should be proud- Oscar is no doubt a real inspiration for many, including myself.
Really terrible news earlier about little Niamh.
Listening to arcade Fires “city with no children”…then you get that burning feeling in the heart, then a tear, as you think of how cruel the world can be. They light up our world with their innocence.
Love is a bridge to Eternity…no doubt the wee one will be waiting there.
Great to see the wee soldier fighting all the way with a smile on his face.
Goodnight. Peace One & All.
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/revealed-rejected-bid-buy-rangers/1593
HH
Read the article, but haven’t read back yet……just get the distinct impression that Doncaster is trying to protect the SFA / SPL rather than the bhuns. ..when all this comes out, he will inevitably be asked some serious questions about the management of the game in Scotland over the past 20 years (accountability) ……. I think he wants to minimise the poo at his doorstep… And I think he wants rankers to sink, and to take some of the poo with them… I’m not saying for one moment it is justified….just think we are seeing our own wee mini Watergate being played out here…
Think it may be too late, though, with this BBC Documentary on Wednesday
Can’t believe they haven’t Sussex mr green yet…….. He is going down the same road as agent Whyte. The only difference is that he is more plausible with his 20+++++++++ consortium…….what aload of old shoite that is
Headtheball on 21 May, 2012 at 21:38 said:
Agreed matey, when have the BBC ever done anything to upset the huns.
The bould Hector’s bhoys….. Tá ár lá anois on 21 May, 2012 at 21:36 said:
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 21 May, 2012 at 21:03
Agree , time two. the lead article is misleading , Doncaster has not failed SPL fans, he could not care less about the fans; he he makes no promises to them , so how can he fail them?
His obligation is to the SPL and in selling that product to sponsors, if the SKY deal goes he has failed one of ,probably his biggest ,KPI . He looks as if he has rushed out this statement in the light of the rumour mill about the BBC programme and because he needs Green and his secret brotherhood to complete the takeover urgently.
I am not holding my breath for any revelations on Wednesday. For the last 3 months we have salivated at the prospect of ” Manic Mondays” ” Timtastic Tuesdays” ” Farewell Fridays ” etc.. only to be told that the beast is still there. I fear more of the same.
hen1rik on 21 May, 2012 at 21:48 said:
Agreed matey, when have the BBC ever done anything to upset the huns.
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Televised the visit of BenedictXVI….?
I will not be one bit surprised,if Rangers are playing in the SPL next season,unpunished,signing players,still paying nobody and the same cheerleaders telling us its for the good of the game in Bonny Scotland…