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Doncaster Newco proposal doesn’t get the votes

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An SPL general meeting today passed several less-significant Financial Fair Play rules (pay your taxes and players) but did not approve a proposal from chief executive, Neil Doncaster, that a mechanism should be introduced to parachute a Newco into the top division in Scottish football for the first time in history.

It would have taken 8 votes to see this controversial proposal pass, which it clearly didn’t get.  The SPL reserves the right to vote a Newco in at any point in the future, but those hoping to buy the assets of Rangers were not issued a ticket to the SPL today.

Surprised?

Perhaps connected to the above matter….  The SPL board will this afternoon consider issues relating to allegations Rangers rigged the system for over a decade with dual contracts.

There are too many permutations for me to digest these developments with any accuracy. At first pass, the news appears to be on the upside of what I was expecting earlier in the day.

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  1. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Maybe Charles Green voted against them.

     

    It maks sense tae me, and it maks sense tae Mo.

  2. Can someone answer me this. Why in the world would D&P/Green submit a CVA proposal if they didn’t think it had a better than even chance of being accepted?

  3. Can anyone recall any senior member of RFC(IA) offering a simple ‘sorry’ to Scottish football? No ‘acts of contrition’ for them. Their arrogance seems to grow each day. Yes perhaps we deserve to be punished but we will decided what punishment we should receive.

     

    Apparently there were posters on FF threatening civil disorder and violence should the SFA even contemplate doing the honourable thing and throwing them out of Scottish football. Isn’t even suggesting that type of thing banned under the prevention of terrorism act 2005?

  4. musters

     

     

    It also means the SPL can apply any sanction they see fit.

     

     

    30 point deduction, Loss of 75% of income, FPLG to lose 4 Stone…

  5. merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut on

    Awe Naw

     

     

    Like one of Scotland’s greatest heroes, you’ve been duped!

     

     

    HH

  6. The Pantaloon Duck on

    Dontbrattbakkinanger on 30 May, 2012 at 13:43 said:

     

     

    I used to have a Fiat. Nice wee car it was.

  7. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    McBeth raging about being overlooked for an EBT ?

     

     

    HH

  8. philvisreturns on

    musters – I don’t necessarily think this is good news. It means that theoretically newco could apply with no sanctions. Am I missing a trick here?

     

     

    It’s tentatively good news. The SPL isn’t, despite our fears, preparing a way and making paths straight for Rangers 2 to be parachuted straight into the SPL.

     

     

    The only credible, right, and just way for a New Rangers to play in Scottish football would be by applying to join the third division. That’s now looking slightly more likely. (thumbsup)

  9. lennon’s passion on 30 May, 2012 at 13:51 said:

     

     

    Well it means that if they’re liquidate, as seems likely, they have to start from the bottom.

     

     

    That’s a victory in my book.

  10. The Honest Cover-up on

    musters on 30 May, 2012 at 13:50 said:

     

     

    Probably for their own safety.

     

    By at least offering a sham of a CVA they can say to the angry mass “we tried to save the club. It’s the creditor’s fault”

  11. philvisreturns on

    !!Bada Bing!! – Pathetic ,how a no mark like John McBeth can come out now and condemn the huns,never heard a peep out of him when in office.

     

     

    There is more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents…

     

     

    I think Mr McBeth’s statement was very interesting:

     

     

    ”Football would survive without Rangers, maybe not at the same level, and the game would may be lose some fans – but so be it,” he said.

     

     

    “If you look after the sport the money will follow you, if you look after the money you’ll kill the sport.”

     

     

    Scottish football is now imagining a future without Rangers. Even 12 months ago that would have seemed incredible. (thumbsup)

  12. Duff&Duffer can implement 3 different charges.

     

     

    Administrator, Supervisor of CVA and now Liquidator.

     

     

    rangers in administration is the gift that keeps on giving…

  13. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Weeminger

     

     

    Bottom being possible consideration of Newco SPL entry with Sanctions.

     

     

    HH

  14. Malone19

     

     

    Personally I think every newclub scenario is exactly the same; they all involve an entirely new club seeking entry to the top professional league in the country a matter of weeks, months, or even days after coming into existence.

     

     

    If newclub is voted straight into the league, whether or not without sanctions, it’s a travesty for sporting integrity, particularly if the SPL/SFA recognises it as an historical continuation of the oldclub. Does anyone know if any other “newclubs” like Fiorentina or Derry City were ex post facto acknowledged as a continuation of the oldclub by their member associations or UEFA?

  15. philvisreturns on

    ASonOfDan – rangers in administration is the gift that keeps on giving…

     

     

    Poor huns. For them it’s always winter, and never Christmas. (thumbsup)

  16. ASonOfDan philvisreturns

     

    Thanks for the responses lads, I hope yous are right but I don’t place any trust in these people to make fair decisions on the “establishment” club. I’d rather see hard and fast rules in place.

     

     

    I think this is a fudge … but maybe, as Paul67, suggests it’s in lieu of some other sanctions.

  17. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 30 May, 2012 at 13:57 said:

     

     

    Possibly. Or possibly not getting in at all.

     

     

    If they had voted for fixed penalties, it would have signalled a near guarantee of entry for NewClub.

     

     

    At this stage I think the decision not to fix the penalties is the more positive one.

  18. it does seem like the tide has turned on the nasties. who knows where this momentum will lead

  19. There are none so blind as those who chose not to see…

     

    If they had just apologized and applied to Div 3 then they would have been in a much better place today, I think it would have galvanized their siege mentality support and would have saved them a fortune.

     

    In all probability they would come straight through the divisions and back in 3 years.

     

    Their unshakable arrogance has proved to be their Achilles Heel.

     

     

    Bye Bye Rangers

  20. musters

     

     

    Prior to today’s vote any “newco” could apply to have a share of an existing club transferred to them. This decision would be taken by the board of the SPL and this was a majority vote. No sanctions were included in this article.

     

     

    After today’s votes, sanctions may be applied on a case by case basis and the vote on whether a share can be transferred will be taken by all the clubs with at least 8 clubs having to vote in favour.

     

     

    Not much has changed apart from who makes the decision and now sanctions may be imposed.

     

     

    Mort

  21. Mr Green has a decision to make. He went to the meeting to network and figure out how his Newclub would sit with the other Chairman.

     

     

    I imagine that after seeing the BBC documentary and now having Fifa ready to obliterate Scottish Football he was treated like a crack addict cousin at a funeral.

     

     

    Green about to walk away…

  22. the long wait is / over Honest Cover Up

     

     

    I don’t buy the “going through the motions” / appeasing the fans arguments.

     

    Doesn’t make any sense … too costly.

  23. gerryguk7 on 30 May, 2012 at 13:58 said:

     

     

    New Club cannot be TOO similar to the old club or creditors could continue to pursue. As such – the history should absolutely not be able to be maintained. Airdrie United did not pick up any trophies won by Airdrieonians (for example). Hope this helps.

  24. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Weeminger,

     

     

    They had a chance to enshrine entry into the SPL based on sporting excellence, integrity and good governance but didn’t.

     

     

    No appetite for that at all and against the grain of the development of SPL rule making so far.

     

     

    It is classic crisis management with a clear goal and McBeth summed it up perfectly how not to behave and they have paid no heed.

     

     

    HH

  25. tomthelennytim on

    Philvis – put another way – the poor hun is sick of getting screwed and never getting kissed.

     

    hehehe – stupid, flatlining huns.

  26. Clyde news never mentioned that they voted against allowing a new club to be parachuted straight in, just that no sanctions were voted through

  27. Steinreignedsupreme on

    Despite the disadvantage of the controversial blue court the Good Ghuys take the first set 6-3.

  28. the long wait is over on

    Musters

     

     

    “too costly”?

     

     

    Not if youre the ones issuing the invoices its not.

     

     

    TLWIO

  29. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 30 May, 2012 at 14:07 said:

     

     

    That’s not the vote that was put to them though.

     

     

    So yes it’s still up in the air but as it stands a vote against each, and every application by a NewClub to gain directly entry to the SPL is as likely to fail as to succeed.

  30. philvisreturns on 30 May, 2012 at 13:55 said:

     

     

     

    I think Mr McBeth’s statement was very interesting:

     

     

    ”Football would survive without Rangers, maybe not at the same level, and the game would may be lose some fans – but so be it,” he said.

     

     

    “If you look after the sport the money will follow you, if you look after the money you’ll kill the sport.”

     

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    That’s a remarkable statement from John McBeth. Given the source, it’s all the more remarkable.

  31. Big Swee walks on with Neil Lennon on

    Folks,

     

     

    Question for the legal eagles.

     

     

    Can the creditors e.g. HMRC push for D&P to be removed as admin/liquidators once CVA fails in an attempt to drive a better bargain for creditors etc?

  32. pedrocaravanachio67 on

    greenjedi on 30 May, 2012 at 14:09 said:

     

    Clyde news never mentioned that they voted against allowing a new club to be parachuted straight in, just that no sanctions were voted through

     

     

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    heard the above also, has a statement been issued to say that a vote has actually taken place?

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