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Quick question for you.  Which Scottish team has won their last four home games, scoring 13 goals in the process?  St Mirren are on a run of form at home.  One of those wins was against Second Division opposition, but remember, this season, Second Division teams are on a par with AC Milan in the early 90s.

Ross County scored four at St Mirren Park but St Mirren scored five, while Hearts were despatched 2-0.  This is a team with good home form who kept their squad in place over the international break.  My best advice to you is to avoid betting on this one.

Many clubs have trouble paying their bills but the problem with Hearts and their regular tardiness when it comes to wages, evident again this month, appears to be different.  Hearts cash balances will have peaked weeks, possibly months, ago.  From now on they will be eating into ‘reserves’, or more likely, accruing additional debt at their owner’s bank.  The club have been here many times before and Vlad has dipped into the equivalent of his commercial pocket to avoid an insolvency event but I’ve always found it curious why he didn’t do so on time.  It’s not as though anyone can be surprised pay day is coming.

As such, there appears to be a degree of control over late payment.  The money is always provided but not before pain is passed down from owner to earners, which is a bit curious.

For all his faults, and they are many, Romanov and other shareholders in Ukio Bankas have ‘invested’ countless millions in Hearts, money they are unlikely to get back with the residential property market so depressed.  They have also not exposed the club to outrageous fortune – the overwhelming majority of debt is owed to the bank itself, balances at HMRC and other creditors are low, and they pay their football debts.  This means that if Hearts go into administration, the route back through a CVA would be clear.  The only serious losers would be staff made redundant, while Ukio would face a write-off, perhaps already acknowledged internally.

I was surprised at the news Danny McGrain was appointed first team coach yesterday but also delighted.  Danny’s was not a name mentioned for the position when Alan Thompson left the club but he is immersed in the fabric and culture of our club.  ‘In the days of changing ways’ a strong thread of continuity is an invaluable asset in ensuring the new generations acquire the important elements of our identity.

We are a club in touch with all that is important.

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  1. I read that Sheep are taking 4000 fans to Tannadice this weekend.

     

     

    Is this the Armaggedon MSM talk about ?

  2. ernie lynch:

     

     

    I have never heard a single Celtic Supporter or fan say anything derogatory or offensive about the Ibrox Disaster and I don’t think I have led a sheltered life.

  3. McNair is the greatest on

    If there was a World’s greatest team over the last 50 years – Danny would most likely be the only British player in it. Its a straight fight between him & Cafu. Danny is ahead of Jinky, King Kenny, Banks, Charlton, Moore, Charles & Best. The best British player ever in his position IMHO (apart fae Alec McNair obviously).

  4. tomtheleedstim on

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/whyte-to-claim-millions-from-rangers-assets-sale.19179711

     

    “FORMER Rangers owner Craig Whyte is preparing to claim millions of pounds from the remains of the old club that collapsed earlier this year.”

     

     

    Too many to be a coincidence now. “old club” along with Traynor yesterday?

     

    There is an attempt to throw HMRC off of the newco scent when they come looking for their pound of flesh. MSM dancing to the hun tune again.

     

    Too late guys. Hector has been listening.

  5. When Celtic beat Inter Milan they were the forefront of the

     

     

    modern game. There was a lot of the italian type football

     

     

    being played all over europe. Danny bhoy was steeped

     

     

    in that philosophy and is totally relevant to the coaching

     

     

    staff.

  6. Hi all and Paul67

     

    Surely the results of the FTTT has been made clear when oldco announced through Duff and Phelps that the oldco owed £94 million and change in tax,am I wrong to think this?

  7. Ernie Lynch/ Hooped Dreams.

     

     

    I must have led a sheltered life as well.

     

    I have NEVER heard a Celtic man mocking the Ibrox disaster.

     

    I am certain that I never will.

  8. ernie lynch

     

    hoopeddreams,kitalba and myself must have been brought up in the same shelter.

     

     

    JJ

  9. Been going to CP for over 35 years,a regular in The Jungle,never heard a bad word about Ibrox Disaster………Daleks were in vogue in those days….wtf is that nonsense all about.Reminds me of Rik,Vyvyan and the others in The Young Ones,sitting bored on a couch talking nonsense.

  10. This is part of hmrc statement on ragers, it`s been there for a while

     

     

    ” also means that the new company will be free from claims or

     

    litigation………..ragers can make a fresh start.”

     

     

    I think they`re distancing themselves from oldco because ftt is

     

    against them. Tarred with the same brush

  11. kitalba

     

     

     

    13:32 on 19 October, 2012

     

     

     

    ernie lynch:

     

     

    I have never heard a single Celtic Supporter or fan say anything derogatory or offensive about the Ibrox Disaster and I don’t think I have led a sheltered life.

     

     

    *me neither kit, I was at that game and in their coo shed, people were dieing as I was leaving the ground. Didnae know anything about it until I got home and Mrs TT who as at her mothers in Dumbarton phoned me tae see if I was ok, first thing I did was go up tae the nearest hun pub Mackenzies tae find out more about it, the local hun bus hadn’t come back and I was the first punter who had been at the match to appear, their worst fears were compounded as they realised it had been at their end.

     

     

    Celtic and Celtic supporters were magnificent in the aftermath of this, cannae say they would have been the same. In a testimonial played later on Scotland v an OF select supposed tae be 5 Tims and 5 bears plus George Best but it didnae work out that way. During the game the chant “Gemmells a bassa” was heard, even in their grief their hate was apparent.

     

     

    I also saw the first Dr Who it was a Saturday night either before or after TOTP and the Telegoons, never heard the term Daleks used against them.

  12. CQN posters confirming forum’s reputation for being unrepresentative of a huge swathe of the Celtic support non shocker!

  13. tomtheleedstim on

    thetimrieper- that may be true of HMRC but ole Chucky signed up newhuns to any punishments handed out to oldhuns as part of the agreement to transfer their licence.

     

    Newhuns could be chucked out altogether as a result of Murray’s cheating shenanigans.

  14. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    I have lead a very sheltered life thats obvious from my posts and have never heard a Celtic supporter abuse the Ibrox disaster why are we even discussing Ibrox and the disaster ?

     

     

    HH

  15. ernie lynch

     

    “huge swathe” ? I have complimented you often enough but, in this matter, you are almost certainly wrong.

     

     

    JJ

  16. ernie lynch

     

     

    If so unrepresentative, why do you bother?

     

    Don’t know about you but I’d rather associate myself with these types of fans that those you know who have used slurs against those who died in Ibrox disasters.

     

     

    Mort

  17. Awe Naw

     

    I think some “journo” has claimed, recently, that we make jokes about it.

     

     

    JJ

  18. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    CQN posters confirming forum’s reputation for being unrepresentative of an Ernie Lynch utter fabrication nonshocker AGAIN

     

     

    HH

  19. The Prince of Goalkeepers on

    tomtheleedstim

     

    13:34 on 19 October, 2012

     

     

    have to say that was my impression as well…I’ve noticed three separate references this week to old club/new club, looks to me like a coordinated attempt to manage the message on this issue.

  20. ….and if that “huge swathe” really was representative,then I would not be a Celtic supporter…..but I am . Ergo…..

  21. thomtheleedstim

     

     

    It will be football penaltys that they will be punished with

     

    not financial. With the shennanigans(good word) at the

     

    sfa it will not be harsh.

  22. Jungle Jim

     

     

    13:54 on 19 October, 2012

     

     

    ernie lynch

     

    “huge swathe” ? I have complimented you often enough but, in this matter, you are almost certainly wrong.’

     

     

     

    A huge swathe of the Celtic support ( by which I mean active, home and away, supporters’ club members, function attending element of the support) will have heard the songs about the Ibrox disaster. I am an no doubt about that.

  23. tully57

     

     

     

    13:46 on 19 October, 2012

     

     

     

    Oh Hampden In The Sun

     

    Celtic 7 Rangers 1

     

     

    God bless the 7-1 bhoys, forever.

     

     

    *Beattie Donnely Falllon; Fernie Evans and Peacock; Tully Collins McPhail Wilson and Mochan.

     

     

    John Donnelly only played as Peter Goldie was injured and Wee Ten Thirty who had played in the semis against Clyde at ibroke was left out of the side because of his temperant.

     

     

    I was at the Clyde game but being only 9 was not allowed tae go tae the final so I went tae see the Vale of Leven Juniors at the Millburn, some hun had a portable radio, it was huge and must have run off a car battery, England were playing Wales in a home international that day, we listened tae the 2nd half and everytime we scored he turned it over tae the international game, then back again and we would score.

     

     

    It was a glorious autumn day and at the conclusion of the game my mother came tae pick me up, I ran from the terracing at the Vale Emmett end shouting “Celtic won 7-1” later on she confessed that she thought some big boys were winding me up, that night was the first time I ever saw my da drunk, the tele nearly went intae the Haldane burn when watching the highlights that night, soor face peter thomson was nearly in tears.

  24. Celbridge Celt on

    Unfortunately, I have heard songs sung by our fans with regards the Ibrox Disaster.

     

     

    I was almost 30 (10+ years ago) when I first heard it and thought like all of us here, to be disgraceful… pretty sure it was just a certain areas “Celtic bus ditty”

     

     

    Similarly, I’ve heard songs sang about the Munich Disaster (Of course not by our fans) by City fans, hopefully that’s a minority also.

     

     

    Where on earth did this conversation stem from?

  25. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Ernie

     

     

    What songs and when did you hear them and no waffling. Titles and time ?

     

     

    HH

  26. Ernie, I first heard about the Ibrox disaster in real depth from an old gent from East Kilbride I used to work with. When he described what happened that day, I could only feel sorrow. He spoke about that day with such sadness I could feel nothing else.

     

     

    He is a good Celtic man, by the way.

     

     

    Best add me to the sheltered life list too.

  27. setting free the bears, 13:37

     

    That’s fantastic.

     

    “We have received so many great gifts over the years and we have some wonderful ones from some of the best teams in the world such as Manchester United and Barcelona,” said Sandy, on the club site. “Valencia, for instance, have given us beautiful porcelain figures.

     

     

    That plate can now take the place of a bicycle-shaped hole in their trophy room or perhaps in the drawer, out of harm’s way, where the old Arsenal shares used to be

  28. The Prince of Goalkeepers on

    Ernie Lynch and others-

     

     

    I can honestly say I had never heard the Dalek reference before in relation to the Ibrox disaster before it was mentioned I think by Leggat and then reported here, and I have also never heard the so called so called “Ibrox disaster song” which has beel attributed to Celtic fans.

     

     

    With regard to derogatory comments regarding the disaster made by Celtic fans, I cannot categorically say I have never heard any, but I am struggling to recall any at this time.

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