Neil Doncaster has uttered the words “Prima Facie” more often than any other figure in public life since February when Celtic Quick News first asked if Rangers EBT payments were declared to the football authorities, almost always after the words “we don’t know if there is a”. While we are all assuming the SPL have now established Rangers have a case to answer for illegally registering footballers for over a decade, it’s important to hear the words.
Rangers refused to submit information to the SPL for three months and only did so under the duress of a deadline, but we don’t know what they have submitted. I have been concerned that Rangers would simply try to brass the entire episode out, submit the contracts the SFA and SPL already had, and deny having any record of side agreements.
Consider the clubs modus operandi in recent months and years. Sir David Murray provided cover in March, categorically denying side contracts existed, while the current men in charge have been too busy to spare much time researching the issue. A response of “We don’t have any information” would not have surprised me. Rangers submitting full information – including details on the side letters which exist but which the BBC do not have – would surprise me.
The SPL should have realised months ago they would get nothing from Rangers without a deadline but they are in awkward position if the answer from the club is not what is expected. It’s far from clear that they can take evidence from the BBC and may require information from the First Tier Tribunal verdict to substantiate what everyone knows. The verdict is unlikely to confirm any names.
Until Mr Doncaster says “Prima Facie evidence exists” we should not assume this episode is on track to be dealt with.
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Posted through the night on last thread, but I forgot to mention that PM Mr. Tony Blair lied to Parliment about attending these illegal “Secret” meetings that the MSM won’t cover WHY?, if there is nothing ti hide cover it:
Paul67,
I know this RFC story is getting real juicy but take a wee look at this list of attendees at this yrs Bilberburg meeting:
http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg-2012-the-official-list-of-participants/
These secret meetings not covered by MSM, makes you ask why, and they decide all our futures.
Keep the Faith
Finnharp
If it was us they’d have galloped towards judgement on a great big white horse and the knuckledraggers would have been effectively message-managed by the jeerleaders in the media.
One Scodddland…….
Avocado on 1 June, 2012 at 12:59:
The Hay Brothers would have left 76ish and the others I know around that time.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Not to bang on, but if there was ever a time when RFCia soon RFCiL needs to give back handers/due contracs well its today.
Hail Hail
Finnharp
After the announcement yesterday mY initial thought was exactly what Paul and a others have expressed. However if the SPL passes judgement on half baked documents from D&P then surely they are just delaying the inevitable?
Everyone and their mother now knows there were two contracts & this truth will only be rubber stamped when the BTC rules. For the sake of Doncaster and the SPL’s integrity he must realise an attempt to fudge now will only be delaying the inevitable. There’s already enough shame been brought on our game does he really want to add himself to the list?
According to Neil Doncaster Rangers ten point punishment was relatively meaningless.
No doubt about it, the guy is a raving genius.
Good afternoon friends.
Some very disappointing news I’m afraid. No early morning EK weather reports till Monday as me and the gloriously wonderful Mrs Baldie are about to head off abroad to sunny Arran. See if I miss the big liquidation party…grrrr
Lennybhoy…,
I was only their for a short time, (England beckoned) but I do remember the brothers.
Actually we all went to their Father’s funeral circa ’74, seemed to be a much loved guy.
Which end of the donkey did the prima facies come from? And were they green from all the verbiage/foliage whispered into him daily from the regurgitations of Dark Mingbat and his troupe of prancing rodents?
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GoneRadio CSC
Must admit I was surprised to learn that Sannabhoy is celebrating his birthday today.
When I heard what age he was I always assumed his birthday must be February 29.
Prima facie, they’re trying stronger doses on FF:
“Take the following teams out the their League
And what do you have
Real Madrid
Manchester United
Bayern Munich
AC Milan
Ajax
Anderlecht
Benfica
The leagues would be finished, they just wouldn’t be the same and they would be so de-valued that you can only assume that the other teams in the league would suffer eventually.
The point I am trying to get at is, I for one can’t understand why anyone would want to see a football club die? And I fail to see how removing the biggest football from their own league wouldn’t have dire consequences on the rest of the league?
Can anyone tell me?” [Should we tell him?]
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“Could you imagine the Spanish kicking Real Madrid out of their league? Wonder how uefa and fifa would react to that?”
Older bloggers may remember that it was the first Dr Who who gave Nero the idea of burning Rome .
BBC actually writing earlier that rfc hoping to be out of admin by 12th July
not even trying to dress that one up
unless wi a wee sash or suchlike
To avoid the sickening sycophantic jolly jubilee beanfeast bonanza breaking out ubiquitously uk-wide over the forthcoming four day frolic I recommend staying in the scratcher with salubrious supplies until the all-clear is announced.
AlliterationGoneTooFar CSC
Chairbhoy on 1 June, 2012 at 13:07:
That’s them, they left the year after their Dad died. One works for would you believe HMRC the other, Strathclyde’s finest (soon to retire having done his 30 years).
Both listed as friends on my FB if you ever want to get in touch with them.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
The physics of the Tardis [ unfeasibly large on the inside] also apply to ole Dick Byrne’s wallet, except in reverse.
Dick Byrne
As it’s Sannabhoy’s special day are you going to offer to let him buy himself a pint :-))
Hey Roy Croppie – well done mate! Beer soon – liquid lunch to celebrate the liquidation :)
Mr confict of interest what school did u go to will be the eyes and ears for the Orc!
What If he is advising them ?
I bet the shredders and mobile phones of ex players and iPox have been working overtime !
The staff at your local friendly Morrisons, are decked out in the Butchers Apron gear today.
Anyone in the Dundee area over the next couple of days?
Guinness World Record Attempt by Staff and Students
Read on to find out how you can take part or help to raise funds for charity!!
The Engineering Curriculum Team at Dundee College was approached by The British Council on behalf of Balaju School of Engineering & Technology, Kathmandu in 2011. They were looking for an innovative and cost effective engineering solution to the country’s basic electricity distribution network. Only 48.5% of the population has access to electricity. The lack of electricity is felt most in the remote villages and the villages located in the mountainous regions of Nepal. The Engineering Team was tasked with formulating and implementing a workable and cost effective solution to this historical problem. The design brief was simple: “Provide lighting/heating for households in the remote regions who currently cannot gain access to electricity.”
The solution was to design and build a portable power pack which could generate and store electricity from the natural, free and plentiful resources, namely, the climate.
Engineering learners at Dundee College were tasked with investigating, designing, testing and manufacturing a workable solution to the design brief. The preferred solution after a myriad of prototypes and brainstorming sessions was to design and manufacture a Solar Panel Portapak. Due to the cost of the solar panels and some of the peripheral equipment it is costly to purchase the consumables.
We decided to raise the monies ourselves. A few ideas were suggested and the one which most agreed with was to attempt a Guinness World Record. As staff play football on a Friday night we wanted to attempt a football themed record and after checking out the Guinness Website came across the 5-a-side football marathon. The current record stands at 40hrs and is held by the Soccer AM team. We are looking to beat this record by 8 hours and have tentatively pencilled in the Friday 1st – Sunday 3rd June 2012 for our record attempt. In preparation for our attempt we plan to take part in a 12 hour practice just after the April holidays. All participating will be given sponsorship forms and we hope to raise some of the monies by donations etc. We have been in touch with local companies and are hopeful that some of these companies will want to sponsor us. We have already had one Renewables Operation and Maintenance company donating £1000 and some of this will be used to purchase the strips for our record attempt. Other companies are in the process of being approached and we are hopeful that they will be willing to sponsor the event including: Michelin, Highland Spring, SSE, Asda, CWind, NHS Tayside.
Staff have already been preparing/training for the record attempt and over the past couple of months have been training three times a week, Tuesday and Thursday 6.30 – 8.00 in the mornings and Saturday mornings from 8.00 – 9.30. Sessions have been well attended so far with 20 going down to the beach one Saturday for some endurance training and some even dipped their toes into the Tay at Broughty Ferry! We have been involved in circuit training, bleep tests, swimming sessions, 5 a sides, hill running and hay bale pushing to name a few. The fitness programme we are following is called Insanity: The Ultimate Cardio Workout and Fitness Program. David Lloyds Fitness Centre is giving us free access to their facilities and our training is being supervised by one of their fitness instructors. We hope to have a video diary uploaded to the portal in the next couple of weeks so staff can gauge our progress and see how/if we are progressing.
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The game started at 8am this morning and the score is currently (or rather, as I headed back to the office) is/was:
Utd/Tangerine: 143
Dee/Dark Blue: 140.
If you can get along to support this/donate, we’re at Gardyne Campus, Dundee.
Bada Bing- including ole Martin42?
hamiltontim on 1 June, 2012 at 13:17:
You got through the reports very quickly…:)
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
What’s changed?
SFA: “RFC, have you anything which might indicate Mr Whyte might not be a fit & proper person? Nope? OK, sorry for bothering you.”
SPL: “RFCia, have you any evidence of dodgy contracts with your players & staff? Nope? OK, sorry to bother you.”
I’m listenin’ to how our friends and family in Ireland are getting turned over by their own govenment & the EU.
Capitalism,eh? All gone wrong.
Mort, Thanks for the song Lizzie to Phillip that takes me back and makes me smile today…I had a limo job in Canada back in the 90s and Lou Macari sang that song to me on the way to the horse racing, what a great memory…
Hail Hail
Lets just put the final nail in their coffin and all move on with summer holidays..
Finnharp
Dontbrattbakkinanger on 1 June, 2012 at 13:27:
Sent you a friends request on FB, my Sunday name…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
hamiltontim ,
thank you for the thought.
Dick Byrne , if i claimed a birthday for each chuckle i’ve had re their demise since Feb 14 , I’d be on to my 100th telegram from their favourite creditor.
Am pushing the boat out today and travelling in the posh seats from Euston so I expect your namesake , good ole Richard to be providing the libations.
HH
Bada Bing!!
That’ll be me off to Sainsbury’s then for my beer!!!
The postings on FF say enough about how much better off the game would be without them.
Bring it on.
!!Bada Bing!! on 1 June, 2012 at 13:23 said:
The staff at your local friendly Morrisons, are decked out in the Butchers Apron gear today.
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In the butcher meat department?
Oh, I see :-(
“Happy Birthday to you
you were born in the Zoo.
With the Monkeys and the Donkeys,
and the big fat Kangaroo.”
Happy Birthday Sannabhoy.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Really frustrated and angry i am with the reports of all these players whom I have never heard of before,that are being linked with moves to Celtic.
In saying that – I had never heard of Forster,wee Emilio,Matthews,Kayal,Victor…
In Lennon We Trust.
Lennybhoy -I’m not on Facebook, too bloomin’ modern, but I appreciate the gesture.
I’d like to think that if ole Mark Hately hadn’t invented Facebook we’d still be pals.
GrannyMacsBhoy on 1 June, 2012 at 13:31 said:
Bada Bing!!
That’ll be me off to Sainsbury’s then for my beer!!!
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Try Tesco. This is causing apoplexy on FF. They don’t have a clue what to do about it as they’re boycotting them already:
“Tesco N.I.
Just heard on cool fm that tesco has recalled all jubilee pins from its employees in Northern Ireland.
Apparantly in the limavady store they were too late and the staff were already wearing them, they were then instructed to remove them.
Total disgrace I for one will not darken their door again and I will be ringing to vent my anger and tell them why they’ve lost my custom!”
Last seasons shame game farce- with all the hun thugs walking from Hampden with smug grins on their faces- after the fast track tribunal…was enough to tell us that the SFA had reneged on any duty to morally distance themselves from that horrible club…now they are reaping the very ugly consequenes of such negligence.
Happy Birthday to you,
You were born in a zoo,
you made friends with the monkeys,
and you look like one too!
just sayin’ like :-)
Owen , thanks.
That must be a Lurgan tradition . At least you didn;t mention the gorilla