Doubt remains until we hear the words Prima Facie

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Neil Doncaster has uttered the words “Prima Facie” more often than any other figure in public life since February when Celtic Quick News first asked if Rangers EBT payments were declared to the football authorities, almost always after the words “we don’t know if there is a”.  While we are all assuming the SPL have now established Rangers have a case to answer for illegally registering footballers for over a decade, it’s important to hear the words.

Rangers refused to submit information to the SPL for three months and only did so under the duress of a deadline, but we don’t know what they have submitted.  I have been concerned that Rangers would simply try to brass the entire episode out, submit the contracts the SFA and SPL already had, and deny having any record of side agreements.

Consider the clubs modus operandi in recent months and years.  Sir David Murray provided cover in March, categorically denying side contracts existed, while the current men in charge have been too busy to spare much time researching the issue.  A response of “We don’t have any information” would not have surprised me.  Rangers submitting full information – including details on the side letters which exist but which the BBC do not have – would surprise me.

The SPL should have realised months ago they would get nothing from Rangers without a deadline but they are in awkward position if the answer from the club is not what is expected.  It’s far from clear that they can take evidence from the BBC and may require information from the First Tier Tribunal verdict to substantiate what everyone knows.  The verdict is unlikely to confirm any names.

Until Mr Doncaster says “Prima Facie evidence exists” we should not assume this episode is on track to be dealt with.

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  1. South Of Tunis on

    starry plough –

     

     

    Might be a teach my granny to suck eggs number

     

     

    but —– I highly recommend —

     

     

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  2. The thing that struck me about Oil City Confidential was Wilco Johnson’s regret about how things never got patched up between him and Lee Brilleaux before he died.

     

     

    I remember seeing Wilko Johnson’s Solid Senders at Knebworth in 1978. They were the first on. Huge stage, open air concert….daylight. Just wrong!

     

     

    Top of the bill…The Tubes (white punks on dope). Even more wrong

     

    Zappa was good though

  3. Shieldmuir Celtic on

    If S.F.A./S.P.L. are having difficulty in finding evidence on E.B.D’S, they should ask H.M.R.C. for copies of the documents given to them by the Metropolitan Police after their raid on Murray Park.

  4. Just got a solid tip for the 16.30 at York. Tip straight from the trainers stable. Get your dough on “piece of bread”. Great odds, it’s an ootsider.

  5. Steinreignedsupreme on

    !!Bada Bing!! on 1 June, 2012 at 14:54:

     

     

    “That was the one,some rough pubs where those guys came from”

     

     

    Maybe there was something subliminal there. I took my wife to my local the first time we went up to Scotland – she was scared to go to the toilet because the other women looked scary…

  6. miki67 on 1 June, 2012 at 14:43 said:

     

     

    I remember seeing Squeeze in some pub in London and thinking I’ll be lucky to get out of here alive, some right dodgy characters in the audience..

  7. BT

     

    Re trains. No idea.I’m staying indoors for four days watching Celtic DVD’s and reading something called The Republic by some guy called Plato. I bet you he gives auld Mrs Cake a right slagging.

  8. BT

     

    Sorry but couln’t quite work out youremail addy.

     

    username@ ??

     

     

    Gerry

  9. DBBIA

     

    send him to me then, in saying that young Emmet doing a great job on the ole back…

  10. superdad back in the good books after taking blantyre Monica a walk up the Calder… the things we do to keep the kids close to us….

  11. South Of Tunis on

    Cadizzy

     

     

    Knebworth .

     

     

    I went to The Bucolic Frolic in 1974 .

     

     

    Tim Buckley on first [ the only reason I went] [ in broad daylight . – a travesty ]

     

     

    Dandruff boogie like the Doobies and the Allmans got to play in the dark ..

     

     

    It’s an unfair world.

  12. Re Oil City Confidential

     

     

    “Reviewing the film for The Independent, Nick Hasted concluded: “Feelgood are remembered in rock history, if at all, as John the Baptists to punk’s messiahs”.

     

     

    (courtesy of Chief Superintendent Barlow and PC Murdoch of Wikipedia)

     

     

    whaddya mean “if at all”????

  13. jinkyredstar cuts it back for Neil Lennon on

    Cadizzy

     

    Thank goodness that didn’t do Prima Facia at Knebworth in 78!

     

     

    I remember finding out that we had stuffed der hun during a quiet bit of Zappa’s slot- drove me to drink.

  14. Jinkyredstar

     

     

    If I remember rightly, you steadfastly refused to put your full driving license to use and left it to the other two. I was a provisional at the time 0:)

  15. The Spirit Of Arthur Lee and all else who may have taken offence,

     

     

    I would like to apologise for my earlier language (I really don’t take to well to being called a hun) I know an appology should not be offered and then mittigated against but I don’t want people to think I would normally use words like that on a public forum.

     

     

    One last thing, when I say long time lurker I mean in years terms and I usually only log on to read the excellent articles as I don’t generally get time for the comments part due to work commitments *yawn* so the nuances of peoples humour and protocol were lost on me. I will try and not take umbrage as quickly in future.

     

     

    No hard feelings TSOAL?

  16. WITS

     

    Jeff could truly sing but for me, his dad was better.

     

     

    Mind you, the gap was not as big as that between John and Julian.

  17. South Of Tunis on

    starry plough .

     

     

    Twice !

     

     

    First time was at The Queen Elizabeth Hall in London 1968 —- He was support act for The Incredible String Band !.

     

     

    Dolphins was fabulous !

  18. Cadizzy:

     

     

    Everybody should own a copy of The Republic. The cornerstone of Western Civilization. One of the best introductions to Philosophy, from arguably its greatest proponent.

     

     

    Second only to Rab C

  19. jinkyredstar cuts it back for Neil Lennon on

    DBBIA- funnily enough the Rats did play that day and it was hot!

     

     

    Cadizzy- if I remember rightly the ‘relief’ drivers got over the limit in the Melrose thus ring ourselves Oot of the driving seat for the duration- smart mov IMHO

  20. starry plough on 1 June, 2012 at 15:01 said:

     

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    Lahndahn pubs…..yeah,can be dodgy at times,even in the best of them. The whole world washes up there…including yours truly,trollied.

     

    I remember having to get out via the cludgie window in a pub in Chalk Farm when somehow I got on a winning streak playing pool for money and my adversary and his mates took umbrage to my Glaswegian banter and taking money back from the Anglos.

     

    MisspentYouth CSC

     

    :-))

  21. wonkyradar on 1 June, 2012 at 15:21 said:

     

    “Cadizzy:

     

    Everybody should own a copy of The Republic. The cornerstone of Western Civilization. One of the best introductions to Philosophy, from arguably its greatest proponent.

     

     

    Second only to Rab C”

     

     

    Rab “Ye see…ah’m bein’ philosophical, Mary doll”

     

    Mary “Aye well, yer certainly fill a somethin'”

  22. Dino good post, Maybe it’s time to drop the Hun stuff any, I wonder if it’s putting any non posters from joining in with the CQN fun.

     

    HH Dino and …. Who let the dogs out!

     

    BarkingmadCSC