D&P blow their own argument to shreds in court


The core essence of Duff and Phelps protests at the SFA judicial panel punishment handed out this week, as they state, is that: “in our opinion do the panel fail to have properly apportioned culpability between the Club and Craig Whyte”.

Yesterday we found out the truth about how Duff and Phelps really think about apportioning culpability between a company and a director.

The Lawyer magazine yesterday reported:

“The administrators are suing Collyer Bristow and Whyte’s takeover vehicle the Rangers FC Group for at least £25m in damages. The firm is accused of conspiracy, breach of undertaking, negligence and breach of trust, with Withey – who acted as the club’s company secretary – complicit in the allegations.”

The Lawyer goes on to say that Mark Phillips, QC, acting on behalf of Duff and Phelps, “told the court that there was no evidence anyone else at Collyer Bristow was involved, but that as Withey had authority to act for the firm, it was liable for the losses flowing from his “conspiracy”.

Get this clear; in the opinion of Duff and Phelps QC, as Withey had authority to act for Collyer Bristow, Collyer Bristow was liable.

Craig Whyte acted on behalf of Rangers after 6 May last year just as the old board acted on behalf of the club before then.  These people are using one argument to chase an enormous £25m but using the counter argument to subvert an SFA judicial panel.

The rules of the SFA are clear, Rangers are ‘liable’ for the actions of their directors, as anyone using this argument to pursue £25m should be well aware.  These people are shameless.

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  1. All this has all the attributes for a fine Shakespeare comedy, perhaps ‘The Comedy Of Errors’? His comedies tended to include movement to a “green world”, both internal and external conflicts, and a tension between Apollonian and Dionysian values. Shakespearean comedies tend to also include the following and I shall leave you fill in your own names and places……I think we all know what our own happy ending would be! Who would have thought his insight and genius could stretch 400 years into the future to a football club in the West of Scotland? Remarkable.




    A greater emphasis on situations than characters (this numbs the audience’s connection to the characters, so that when characters experience misfortune, the audience still finds it laughable)


    A struggle of young lovers to overcome difficulty, often presented by elders


    Separation and re-unification


    Deception among characters (especially mistaken identity)


    A clever servant


    Disputes between characters, often within a family


    Multiple, intertwining plots


    Use of all styles of comedy (slapstick, puns, dry humour, earthy humour, witty banter, practical jokes)


    Pastoral element (courtly people living an idealized, rural life), originally an element of Pastoral Romance, exploited by Shakespeare for his comic plots and often parodied therein for humorous effects


    Happy Ending, though this is a given, since by definition, anything without a happy ending can’t be a comedy.





  2. Okay,so this a re-post from the last thread. Apologies in advance.


    Do you not think it would be possible for the Duffers to magic up a couple of quid to get MadMoisty a decent haircut? Shocking.

  3. Kayal33 on 25 April, 2012 at 12:17 said:



    So thats murray and brines still reffing in the SPL after their stitch up at ibrokes on Neil Lennon.


    Seems the hope I had that a deal had been done were they just disappeared from football was wrong.

  4. the missing millions on

    Some of the things being said by people in positions of responsibility amongst the Rangers support and the club have fuelled an outpouring of uncontrolled rage within their support. Curiosity got the better of me last night and what I saw on the dark side of the net was not nice. I shudder to think what must be going on offline.


    I hope that whatever this culminates in (Sunday will not be pretty on the eye or ear either) that the decent people of Scotland see this for what it is and cuts the cancer out once and for all. It is now well within the grasp of Scotland 2012 to change forever. It’s just needs a little push over the finishing line. Hopefully the contracts issue is the one which does it.

  5. BobbyRussell on 25 April, 2012 at 12:17


    heh heh heh.



    Oh I hear you on that old bhoy. But I couldn’t think of any other w####r at the time. ;)))))))




  6. merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut on




    We will be up for it, no danger!



    We froze at Ipox and, before we had time to assume control and dominate, the cheating started!



    Victor will have learned from that game, I’m sure!



    People often forget just how young our team is!



    Cant see us not winning!



    Their main creative influence is Davis and he’s injured!



    They will just be pumping the ball up the park to Elbows and big Thomas and Charlie (POTY) Mulgrew know how to handle him.




  7. Kayal33



    Curious change. Is Thompson injure?. Not happy with it. Same referee two Derbies in a row? Unprecedented I would have thought.

  8. merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut



    McCulloch needs man marked. he caused mayhem the last time. We just didn’t deal with him in the air. It’s horrible to watch such an inept player dominate our players.


    The Rangers youngster in midfield ran riot too. That shouldn’t happen in this type of match.


    The team must be up for it and we must get a win.




  9. LiviBhoy on 25 April, 2012 at 12:11 said:


    ”One of the panel named on a Rangers site apparently.



    Eric Drysdale, director at Raith Rovers.”






    It could end up on A Question of Sport.



    What happened next?



    Maybe Super Ally, Jolly Funster, Everbody’s Pal, and All Round Great Guy, Ally McCoist could tell us.

  10. Paul,


    Duff and Duffer have secured the right to see information held by Minty covering most methods of modern communication. They have omitted mobile phone records. Hmmmm.

  11. Ten Men Won @ 11.23



    The E&Y guy’s point was not about if they could get a CVA or not as he would not predict any outcome because so of many unknowns at this point.



    What he was saying was that given the time-scale between now and June it was unlikely that even if everything was in place today to go for a CVA that one would be in place before the full wages were due. This means that even their best case scenario would still result in administration through to June and beyond.



    That is why Sally is so down as he knows even the best scenario means his top earners have walked away for peanuts (and large signing on fees of course).

  12. ernie lynch



    Raith Rovers a club close to the hearts of Rangers fans after their win in 1994.


    Again the penny is dropping that nobody wants them. Let’s be honest if it were Celtic it would have been the same. It would have happened much quicker though.


    What is that well known saying again? He who laughs last………..




  13. lochgoilhead bhoy on

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 25 April, 2012 at 12:02



    I was about to say this had been AweNawed then I noticed who posted it.

  14. RalphWaldoEllison-is Neil Lennon Season 2011-12 on

    Will McCoist sponsored outing of the panelist’s identity bring a charge of bringing the game into disrepute by the SFA?

  15. didn’t take long for fat Sally’s wish to come true


    All 3 sfa names now spreading on Internet.


    What a horrible country this can be

  16. Is Mise Neil Lennon on

    Apologies if already posted but..the names of the three allegedly on the panel have been posted on RM. What will the fallout of that be I wonder.

  17. LiviBhoy on 25 April, 2012 at 12:17 said:



    Elbows is the biggest coward on that team. Feining injury when trying to injure a fellow professional. Play Big Vic up through the middle and see how he handles him.




  18. I really cannot understand this blame game, we all know that it was Neil Lennons fault and he is certainly going to be called up before the high court to answer the claims that it was he and he alone that has caused all the problems at RFC !!!!

  19. merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut on




    That game was a one-off!



    The atmosphere I’m sure inspired their players.



    Furthermore, we played for half-an-hour, 2 men down, and for over an hour with a defecit of at least one man.



    You cannot judge McCabe’s performance properly with the circumstances so skewed in his team’s favour.



    Let’s see how he does amidst the cauldron in Celtic Park.



    “Glasgow’s Green and White…”



    Bit worried about Mason Murray’s appointment, though? I hope Celtic are questioning this!




  20. Afternoon, looks like Cheaters FC ( Prisoner No. 1967) will be a difficult prisoner. Writing and pleading to all and sundry their innocence. “Blah,blah, greet, greet it’s no fair.” A spell of solitary confinement me thinks, three squares a day, that’s the sausage fae Brigton Cross, a half hour spell in the yard and a shower in the am delivered by Craigy Boy and sponsored by Accufist. Keep tellin it like it is Sally, not long now !!

  21. The other two men have also been named on the 3 man panel.



    I won’t name them and perhaps I shouldn’t have named the other man on here but it’s clear that the secret is out if these names are accurate.


    Sneaky Swally gets what he wants as usual. Put it in the press and someone will oblige by giving out the names. Let’s see what happens next.




  22. Is Mise Neil Lennon on

    eirecamper on 25 April, 2012 at 12:31 said:


    didn’t take long for fat Sally’s wish to come true


    All 3 sfa names now spreading on Internet.




    Oops, just read that!

  23. merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut on

    awe naw



    Thanks for that but I prefer to think of you as a flawed genius!




  24. Shameless change of referee for Sunday. I can foresee us being hacked off the park, reduced to 8 men and Thommo and Big Johann sent to the stands. But we’ll still bury them 3-0 and it will be the sweetest thing ever.

  25. My team news……


    Although I thought Cha had one of his best games on Sunday. I know that Neil likes to tinker with the team especially it seems the defence.


    So I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lustig come in at RB for his height at set pieces.


    If Cha or Matthews play then it will be high balls into them with elbows trying to injure them or win FK’s around our box.


    With murray being quick to award them.


    Cha and Matthews pace at the back would be good but we seen how the huns and the ref dealt with pace the last time….dive and show red card to the Tim.


    Dont know if Neil will go for CM at CH or LB but that could mean having to bring in GL or KW.


    Will he go with Izzy and GS on the left and leave CM in the middle??










    Starting to get that buzzin feeling already!!

  26. Surely Rhys should be withdrawing from the squad in protest.



    RANGERS starlet Rhys McCabe is hoping he can get his first taste of international football this evening when Scotland’s under-21 take on Italy in a friendly at Easter Road.



    The Livingston-born midfielder has never played for his country at any age level in the past and admits it would be a huge moment in his blossoming career to play for Billy Stark’s side.

  27. The Rangers Media site has named one they think was on the panel.



    The three others named were the investigative panel, whose identities have always been known.



    Won’t stop the idiots attacking them though.



    Well done, Super Ally.

  28. CultsBhoy loves being 1st on 25 April, 2012 at 12:39 said:


    ‘RFC…. Tragedy or comedy?’



    Hopefully soon they will be regarded as neither tragedy nor comedy but as historical.

  29. More hilarity…



    Rangers manager Ally McCoist has expressed his frustration with striker Kyle Lafferty after suspending the forward for two weeks, accusing the 24-year-old of letting his team-mates down.



    The Northern Irishman failed to turn up for the club’s 3-0 SPL win over Hearts, angering the Ibrox club’s management.



    McCoist explained why disciplinary action had been taken, hitting out at the player’s current and former representatives.



    He told Blues News: “There was unfortunately yet another breach of discipline from Kyle and, as you can imagine, it’s absolutely the last thing we needed.



    “He was in the squad to travel [to Edinburgh] and we were due to leave on Friday to go through to Tynecastle.



    “But there was a failure to show for the travelling party. I phoned him and left a message because I couldn’t get him and I asked him to get back to me.



    “He didn’t do that so I felt there was no other action to take and I didn’t take that action lightly.



    “We have had to take the action of suspending him and he has obviously taken his medicine. He has taken advice from the PFA and I spoke to his representative.



    “I also know his agent and his previous agent have been speaking to a Championship manager down south, which I’m not sure is allowed.



    “I think he has been winding us up the wrong way and the supporters and, certainly, the players deserve a lot, lot better from one of their own.”

  30. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Asked if Lafferty could work his way back into his plans, McCoist added: “Of course, absolutely.



    “I obviously have a problem with him at the moment but the one thing I will never do as a manager is hold grudges.



    “I appreciate people do make mistakes and nobody made more of them than me as a player.



    “But you have to learn from them and I have told Kyle on numerous occasions that now is the time he has to start learning.



    “We all think he is a smashing lad and we all know the talent he has got but we want to see it at this club. If it’s not at this club, he’s running out of time for it to be somewhere else.”

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