Congratulations to Dundee FC who return to the top flight of Scottish football for the first time in seven years. Back in the 60s Dundee were a top European team. They won the league in 1962 and in the preliminary round of the European Cup they trounced West German champions, Cologne, 8-1 at Dens. Cologne put a more respectable face on the aggregate result two weeks later, winning 4-0 in front of 40,000 fans.
Dundee went on to beat Portuguese champions Sporting Lisbon 4-2 on aggregate in the first round proper, this while Portuguese runners-up, Benfica, retained the European Cup only five months earlier. If the Cologne result was the most enduring in the collective memory, the 4-1 win over Sporting at Dens was one of the all-time great results in Scottish football history.
Anderlecht were next victims, losing 1-4 in front of 65,000 fans in Brussels before the fairy tale ended in the semi final against eventual winners, Milan, at a packed San Siro. A Wembley final against Benfica was Milan’s prize, a tie Dundee would surely have fancied.
The result against Cologne is historically the most impressive but this was not the case at the time. This was a period before the Bundesliga when West German teams participated in regional leagues, with the winners playing-off to enter the European Cup. Once German teams were able to join a financially prosperous league instead of being shackled by historical custom, they never looked back. Dundee, like all Scottish clubs, are disenfranchised from the history they could be creating by the poor value of their TV market.
It’s time for a change, not just for the sake of Celtic! If only the guys running the show knew the history and heritage of the team promoted today, or believed in the potential of Scottish clubs.
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Sevco508 FC in Div3
With the rats all deserting the stricken ‘club’, and a game to play in the RC a week on Sat, where are they going to find a team to play in it?
Is there a website dedicated to finding players made of the fabric required to survive in a league that has players that make Elbows look almost Pirlo-esque?
Cludger.com, hammerthrower.co.uk, noskillrequired.com ?
SPF
Question on 16 July, 2012 at 13:48 said:Also took the opportunity to purchase the new away top (without sponsor).Really ,really like this top.
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Is it available? I ordered one 3 weeks ago and nothing’s arrived yet, also no reply to my email enquiry of 3 days ago (and I can’t phone 0870 numbers from outside the UK).
Yes, got mine in person from Celtic Park Superstore today and I am wearing it now !
Sev[ere]con should not be playing football ANYWHERE ….
No License
No 3yrs auditted Accounts
Hardly a playing squad
Stadium/training ground ???
A ‘club’ who will be lucky to see the end of the year.
GTTF
‘Ramsdens offer all types of loans but by far your best option is to Pawn it. It is obvious why. By definition you have something of value that you can borrow cash against. This means that unlike other loans both parties are secured and therefore not at risk. Which means that you will get lower interest rates – simple as that.’
– so if you have say, an ole French racing bike [feat.derailleur gears] lyin’ about gatherin’ dust then get it down to Ramsden’s for a free quote an’ you could be walkin’ out 5 minutes later with a pocket full of crisp fivers.
DBBIA
Thats really cruel of you – Ally McCoist was consoling himself that he would be allowed to eat his weight in sponsored deep fried pies at every Ramsden cup tie.
Question on 16 July, 2012 at 13:59 said:
I’m jealous :-) Will email them again.
Bada bing…
Sorry, was away tidying the hoose and missed your comment. Ron Burgandy? I wont need my wallet, then.
Cheers.
HH
Bummer Broon says ” Dundee boat ra Pehs! “
Elbows – the Geoff Capes of the Third Division.
I have mixed feelings about Dundee coming up. If there is to be a new sense of footballing camaraderie I welcome it. However many Dundee fans for as long as I can remember, have been no friends of Celtic.
Tim Malone- instead he will be able to eat his weight in secondhand mobile phones.
Dontbrattbakkinanger – With over 100 branches through North East England, Yorkshire, Scotland and Wales Ramsdens is the largest Independent Pawnbroker in the UK.
Ramsdens + Sevco 5088 = synergy. (thumbsup)
ScotsPatsfan
George Weah’s cousin is looking for a club
HH
I reckon the Bomber was told his old club would definitely be playing in the SPL this season – and they are…
!!Bada Bing!! on 16 July, 2012 at 13:45 said:
Finn MacCunaill on 16 July, 2012 at 13:40 said:
glasgowbhoy on 16 July, 2012 at 13:36 said:
Finn MacCunaill on 16 July, 2012
Dundee Utd v Hibs scheduled for the Sunday bhoys,so early KO on Saturday hopefully suits you.
Flying over Friday evening, back home Sunday evening – so should be grand. Thanks for the advice bhoys.
…………….Chums……………………….huv we herd fae thu Bommur yit?
Or has Special Agent “Axminster” Smudger, breenged into the microphones yet?
Steinreignedsupreme – Elbows – the Geoff Capes of the Third Division.
He’s more like Giant Haystacks, but less handsome. (thumbsup)
Grandson was a bit sad abt beating Ireland 3-2 cos they were playing in the Hoops. But had a great time later singin this back and forth to each other. H H
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq2J146riTI
DBBIA – deep fry them and I reckon he will go for that no problem.
So has Doncaster resigned yet?
When I was a kid I recall asking my Dad: “What would happen if Rangers were relegated”.
He said: “Son, Rangers will never be relegated. If it was ever a prospect, strings would be pulled, money would change hands. Things would be taken care of behind the scenes.”
It took some years to understand what he meant.
Fast forward 30 odd years, to Celtic Park at the end of April. We had just beaten Rangers 3-0.
I turned to my son and said: “Years ago, when I was your age, your Granda told me Rangers would never be relegated. Well son, you’ll be able to tell your grandchildren that you saw the last ever ‘Old Firm’ game.”
Whatever the future holds for the Game in Scotland, it has managed to discard a relic of the 20th Century, despite the extreme efforts of the last of the Old Guard.
The established interests that have characterised and warped the Scottish Game for generations have finally been rejected. Utterly rejected.
What a fine day.
Now that me and my brother’s pre and post match beer drinking is going to be constrained by taking the young ones to Celtic Park, when, oh when, is Celtic going to organise, build or facilitate a fan zone ouitside CP where we can enjoy some pre match drinks and food.
C’mon Celtic if we are answering the call (and we are) tells us about plans for fan facilities on match days for the average (non corporate) supporter. You know there is money to be made here. Let’s rejuvenate Cetic Park and Scottish football……….
Oh and the more fans who gather outside CP, when facilities are in place, the more money will be spent in the Superstore.
Glasgow’s Green and White.
Question on 16 July, 2012 at 13:59 said:
I’m jealous :-) Will email them again.
Good luck, hope you get it soon.
!!Bada Bing!! on 16 July, 2012 at 13:45 said:
Finn MacCunaill on 16 July, 2012 at 13:40 said:
glasgowbhoy on 16 July, 2012 at 13:36 said:
Finn MacCunaill on 16 July, 2012
Dundee Utd v Hibs scheduled for the Sunday bhoys,so early KO on Saturday hopefully suits you.
One slight note of caution is that the sky website (I know!) shows two SPL games due to be shown on Sunday 5th August and none on the 4th. Bada is of course correct that Dundee Utd v Hibs is a Sunday game – I assume due to Utd having a Europa League Qualifier on the Thursday before.
The delay must be causing travel problems for thousands of Celtic Fans including some of us Bhoys and Ghirls from Tyneside who are walking the West Highland Way – and a wee bit more – for our Charities this year – as kindly highlighted by Paul 67 in one of his articles last week.
If anyone would like more info or would like to join us for a day or two then feel free to give me a shout. Also, and I know there are many, many good causes supported via these pages, if anyone would like to sponsor us we would of course be very grateful. Cheers.
Tyneside Celtic Way
Hope the link thing works! TechnohopelessCSC
Paul67 et al
I have stated on here a few times that, since the end of the war, the only decade that Rangers “dominated” Scottish football was in the 1990s, and we now know how that came about. They did have a good team in the early !960s, but so did Dundee, Dunfermline, Kilmarnock and Hearts. Celtic were a good team too, lacked the consistency to win the league until Big Jock came back to Paradise. Great to see Dundee back, always liked them, and playing against them. Let us bring in the top four or five teams from the SFL next year and revert to playing each other twice a season. Maybe introduce a play-off system for access into the top league after that.
Zbyszek -.
Fabio Capello .
Italian outlets have stated that the relevant Russian authority has stated that Fabio Capello will be the next manager of Russia but they also state that Fabio will not sign the contract until Wednesday / Thursday.
Check this link out people:
http://www.rangers.co.uk/first-team
It truly speaks for itself.
Mind boggling why some players who have left are excluded yet some aren’t.
Take the leavers out of that and bear in mind they have 12 days before they attempt to giantkill the might of Brechin in the Ramsdens Cup.
It’s a pure fairytale so it is….
Gordon_J – you know I always read your blog, I wrote you a reply earlier but it seems to have been caught in a temporal disturbance of some sort:
Gordon_J – Some good points, but I’d question the extent to which the government wasting billions of pounds we don’t have on the Olympics is a “private sector failure”.
It seems to be the usual public sector failure: politicians splashing cash on politically connected suppliers, a predictable fiasco ensuing, and the taxpayer being expected to pay to bail them out.
If this were a genuinely private sector scenario, i.e. people and firms voluntarily spending their own money on goods and services they wanted to buy, rather than politicos diverting other people’s money to a massive political vanity project, there’d be a huge impending lawsuit against G4S and senior people would be out on their ear. Want to bet how many politicians or civil servants will lose their jobs over this? I’m guessing none.
Especially good point from you here: “And just how difficult can it be to find staff in a time of high unemployment?”
Indeed. Under New Labour, despite Gordon Brown’s “British jobs for British workers” moment of desperation, millions of immigrants poured into Britain and in a not-unrelated move, most of the new jobs created during the Labour years went to immigrants. This was despite us having millions of our own unemployed during the boom years. Even in these troubled times, many firms seem to prefer hiring Eastern Europeans over unemployed British citizens.
Why? Is it because our unemployed are lazy and feckless?
No, it’s because the benefits system in this country, despite its best intentions, traps people in poverty by providing an alternate lifestyle that is more secure and more financially rewarding than work. The long term unemployed are, sadly, following their own rational self-interest by remaining on the dole rather than striving to get back into paid employment. They can’t be blamed for making rational decisions in their own self interest, but the politicians can be blamed for allowing perverse incentives to continue.
We need to fundamentally reform the benefits system to ensure work is always a better option than benefits.
Nice retro dig at Margaret Thatcher. She’s been out of office for 22 years now but the haters are still hurt and angry at her success. Mrs T was truly the Jock Stein of politics. (thumbsup)
Am I reading this right
an hour ago we were deandin the head of Doncaster only to find out he is unanimously returned and given a big vote of confidence, and it means nothing on here, nothing to see here move along. So we just accept the corruption and move on and hope for the best, fan power eh, kittens distracted with a ball of wool.
canamalar – kittens distracted with a ball of wool
Nobody told me about the wool.
>:-(
(thumbsup)
celt55 on 16 July, 2012 at 14:03:
“If there is to be a new sense of footballing camaraderie I welcome it. However many Dundee fans for as long as I can remember, have been no friends of Celtic.”
I think the ‘footballing camaraderie’ is down to standing for the same thing, in this case sporting integrity – it doesn’t mean we’re looking for a lumber of off any of our opponents.
it doesn’t mean we’re looking for a lumber of off any of our opponents.
lol
RogueLeader@14:09
Edu + Bocanegra will be following Goian out the door pretty quickly
Remove them and the others who have left (but are bizzarely still on that page), and their squad will be lucky to get out of Div 3
Will Green really pay Broadfoot, Alexander + Wallace £12k a week in Div 3?
Canamalar
The CEO, as an Executive, does require to be re-elected as the Non-Execs are required to be. He is retained on a contract, and his ass can be parsleyfied at any time, provided his contractual terms are settled.
Parsleyfied at any thyme?
Really enjoyable piece Paul67,
managed by Bob Shankly of course – of the ole Glenbuck Cherrypickers!! Didn’t Bob Crampsey have a top 5 Scots club sides that went:
Dundee 61/64
Lisbon Lions
Famous 5
Dundee Utd 80s
Aberdeen 80s
Steinreignedsupreme on 16 July, 2012 at 14:12 said:
In my days of travelling home and away, Dens Park was one of the really unpleasant visits. However, if there’s a chance of a lumber, I might just be persuaded to go back.
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