Congratulations to Dundee FC who return to the top flight of Scottish football for the first time in seven years. Back in the 60s Dundee were a top European team. They won the league in 1962 and in the preliminary round of the European Cup they trounced West German champions, Cologne, 8-1 at Dens. Cologne put a more respectable face on the aggregate result two weeks later, winning 4-0 in front of 40,000 fans.
Dundee went on to beat Portuguese champions Sporting Lisbon 4-2 on aggregate in the first round proper, this while Portuguese runners-up, Benfica, retained the European Cup only five months earlier. If the Cologne result was the most enduring in the collective memory, the 4-1 win over Sporting at Dens was one of the all-time great results in Scottish football history.
Anderlecht were next victims, losing 1-4 in front of 65,000 fans in Brussels before the fairy tale ended in the semi final against eventual winners, Milan, at a packed San Siro. A Wembley final against Benfica was Milan’s prize, a tie Dundee would surely have fancied.
The result against Cologne is historically the most impressive but this was not the case at the time. This was a period before the Bundesliga when West German teams participated in regional leagues, with the winners playing-off to enter the European Cup. Once German teams were able to join a financially prosperous league instead of being shackled by historical custom, they never looked back. Dundee, like all Scottish clubs, are disenfranchised from the history they could be creating by the poor value of their TV market.
It’s time for a change, not just for the sake of Celtic! If only the guys running the show knew the history and heritage of the team promoted today, or believed in the potential of Scottish clubs.
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Question on 16 July, 2012 at 14:07 said:
Would this be an option for you?
http://www.affiliationregisteredcelticsupporters.org/news/2011/06/affiliation-
lounge-at-celtic-park/
Dontbrattbakkinanger – A sage observation. (thumbsup)
TootingTim on 16 July, 2012 at 14:18 said:
‘Didn’t Bob Crampsey have a top 5 Scots club sides that went:’
He did. But as I said previously he was an idiot. His favourite sport was cricket. Cricket!.
Whats the latest on wee Oscar??
TBB,
so at the first opportunity to reprimand him, they tell the world unanimously that he represented they intrests throughout this whole episode, that idea is more frightening and says he represented everyone at the spl in corrupting the game, very good.
celt55 on 16 July, 2012 at 14:19:
“In my days of travelling home and away, Dens Park was one of the really unpleasant visits. However, if there’s a chance of a lumber, I might just be persuaded to go back.”
That’s the kind of forward thinking we’re looking for. Hamish and Rab are always up for a lumber, apparently…
philvisreturns on 16 July, 2012 at 14:10 said:
”We need to fundamentally reform the benefits system to ensure work is always a better option than benefits.”
And what exactly do you propose?
St Martin’s Bhoy-Sky/Espn must be ready to publish TV games now,so guys can make plans….
Bob Crampsey was the headmaster at St Ambrose – where he was not the cuddly character he came across as on STV.
“Ramsdens also stock travel money for over 100 currencies” …..though this is of lesser appeal than pawnbroking services to those who will not be travelling to Europe in the foreseeable future.
Check out the colours of their website. I bet their Larkhall branch has troubles.
ernie lynch – And what exactly do you propose?
Probably the opposite of what you would, Ernest. (thumbsup)
The Battered Bunnet on 16 July, 2012 at 14:06 said:
I turned to my son and said: “Years ago, when I was your age, your Granda told me Rangers would never be relegated. Well son, you’ll be able to tell your grandchildren that you saw the last ever ‘Old Firm’ game.”
I took my wee lass over for the very same reason. An unforgettable weekend. HH
Celtic, founded in1888.
First game v Rangers.
2012, last game v Rangers.
Last scorer, 88.
Symetry.( sp )
ernie lynch
Is it from a personal experiance you can call Bob Crampsey an idiot?? Just askin like.
DBBIA
Excellent.
Canamalar
Doncaster is more exposed than a bear bottom in a snake pit, but even he is permitted the protection afforded by due process. If the clubs persevere with the balloon, hell mend them, but until we have a statement of intent, what you suggest is no more than speculation.
….unless of course the rocket curries favour with his…….plants…. in the media!
Caddizzy
Whats Ramsdens Euro rate?
TMWTL:
Didn’t Green say that he’d struggle to pay their full contracts if they were in the 3rd as opposed to the 1st?
This being the case, how does this fit with TUPE, especially if there is a player near the end of his career and on a fair wedge who decides to sit out his contract as carried over by TUPE?
Would Bocanegra or McCulloch get anything like the wages they are on, for contracts up ’til they are 35, anywhere else? Do either of them have future football careers to think of when discussing a reduction of their terms?
I think the answer to those last two would definitely point towards Newco having to shell out £2-3m on either wages or player settlements.
TMWTL
Had a bit of an unexpected chuckle last night. Tim Malone junior asked me who had actually left Rangers already so that he could delete players and have a laugh at the remaining Hun FIFA 2012 playing squad.
Without a word of a lie, before we had even nearly finished the exercise, the game put up an error message saying that any team had to have a minimum of 17 players.
Oh how we laughed….
philvisreturns on 16 July, 2012 at 14:10 said:
>>>>>>>
Garbage.
One of my first Celtic cup final memories-drybrugh cup excepted( was that pre season? Always seemed to be Hibs v us)anyway, yes League cup final , pouring down , think about 73, we lost 1-0…
Dundee…we welcome the chase..
HH
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on 16 July, 2012 at 14:27 said:
His most favourist sport was cricket.
I rest my case.
Good ole Saint Nick is the patron saint of pawnbrokers.
TBB,
it matters not a hot what I suggest, he was given a vote of confidence, he will use that in any future attempts to remove him, how can they now defend any attempts to remove him after this.
Howcan they attempt to clean up the sfa if they cannot clean up their own mess.
The corruption continues.
And Dundee to replace the old Rangers, says the BBC.
Old Rangers……that sounds good to me.
pigalle
We sell We buy
Euro Euro 1.23823 1.34732
Jude, Ramsden’s euro rate but they don’t actually have a “buy” rate. What they do is just put your euros in the window for a couple of weeks then sell you them back at the worse rate.
Congratulations to your grandson. I had a look on the SFA website earlier….nada, rien, zilch, niet……
philvisreturns on 16 July, 2012 at 14:25 said:
OK, so you’ve no idea how to fix the benefit system, fair enough.
Interesting though that you’re not in favour of the free movement of workers. I thought you were an advocate of a free market.
Canamalar
I must have missed something. Where does it say he was given a vote of confidence?
pigalle – Old Rangers……that sounds good to me.
Manager: Mumm-Ra The Ever-Living. (thumbsup)
e l
Thats it?? S M O for you then!!! <o))))
TBB – further to my previous post today, was in laughing at the Morlocks on FF when for once I picked up a good little nugget.
Apparently there is a rule in Division 3 whereas you cannot charge more than £12 for a game…..
How does that affect the finances of Sevco? £216 is the price ceiling for a season book.
ernie lynch
Ernie —— do you think CLR James was an idiot ?
So the position is that Sevco are being ” facilitated” into the SFL, without fulfilling the requirements for membership of the SFA.
By extension then, whenever the next club dies, as we are assured that they are ready to drop like flies, will they be ” facillitated” by the SFA/ SFL into the league?
Bad news for Spartans et al.
They are still cheating and it may come back to haunt them.
Liking the herb theme. Good cumin on here and seeing the blog peppered with witticisms. You guys are the salt of the earth…
ernie lynch – OK, so you’ve no idea how to fix the benefit system, fair enough.
Nah, I have plenty of ideas Ernie, although I’m not sure an inherently flawed system can ever be “fixed”.
I just don’t see the point in a one-sided discussion with you, since you rarely if ever answer direct questions, and prefer to snipe rather than discuss.
Also: nyah nyah nyah!
Interesting though that you’re not in favour of the free movement of workers.
Don’t think I said I wasn’t? (thumbsup)
South Of Tunis on 16 July, 2012 at 14:39 said:
‘ernie lynch
Ernie —— do you think CLR James was an idiot ?’
He wasn’t from Glasgow, so he had an excuse.
TBB,
someone posted earlier that the spl AGM unanimously voted the board members into place, his name was on that list.
!!Bada Bing!! on 16 July, 2012 at 14:24 said:
St Martin’s Bhoy-Sky/Espn must be ready to publish TV games now,so guys can make plans….
You’d think so Bada Bing. We’re fortunate in that it only has a relatively minor effect on us but for folk coming over from Ireland for instance it must be a nightmare with coaches/ferries/flights.
We’ll just either walk a bit faster or slower…if we’re able to walk at all by then! :-)