Dundee dreadful gameplan against minnows

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The bottom half of the league table gives an early feel of who is likely to compete against relegation this season.  Newco have moved two points clear of the relegation playoff spot and are surely likely to consolidate their midtable position.  Aberdeen are bottom, with five defeats in seven games, but a 4-0 routing of Dundee last time out saw their first win of the league campaign.  Expect them to climb up the table.

That leaves Livingston, Falkirk and Dundee all on six points and likely relegation candidates.  The latter will do well to take a point against Celtic on Sunday.

Steven Pressley was out of management for six years before getting the Dens Park job in the summer.  League Cup defeats to Airdrie and Alloa in his first two games, which saw Dundee eliminated from the competition, put the pressure on, before a draw at Ibrox delivered their first point of the Premiership season.

A 97th minute penalty at home to Livingston produced their only win of the campaign so far.  Even then, Livi enjoyed the majority of possession and the home side putting men behind the ball and relying on counter attacks.  That’s quite a gameplan at home to a newly promoted minnow.

Brendan Rodgers will know to expect the same defensive approach on Sunday and will hope the 3-2 win over Motherwell last time out has greased the blunt attacking wheels enough to cope against a side short on just about everything.

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  1. FAVOURITE UNCLE on

    Prestonpans bhoys on 18th October 2025 5:09 pm

     

     

    It is not allowed .So both should have been booked.

     

     

    Dundee utd should be complaining bitterly. JIM GOODWIN would be on tv all week moaning if it was CELTIC.

  2. Prestonpans bhoys on

    FAVOURITE UNCLE on 18th October 2025 5:11 pm

     

     

    Only if Robertson is the ref, surprised he didn’t give the United player a yellow🙄🤔

  3. onenightinlisbon on

    Huns can’t cope with physical teams as has been said.

     

     

    Hence our powder puff performance and result against them.

  4. LIONROARS67 on 18TH OCTOBER 2025 4:42 PM

     

     

    Championship manager played out in the real world. A total moonbeam. He’s now sacked a manger that had Forest in the top half of the EPL and odds on favourites for the Europa league to staring down the barrel of relegation.

  5. AN DÚN on 18TH OCTOBER 2025 5:26 PM

     

     

    Absolutely, Marinakis needs to park up his ego and keep it up in the directors box

     

     

    Catch up with the Manager/coach on Monday after weekend fixture to allow all the emotion reaction has had time to die down, a calm meeting after training to allow a sensible supportive dialogue between him and his latest appointment

     

     

    Clearly Marinakis likes the revolving door autocratic type of ownership

     

     

    As you say who wants the pressure of a relegation battle with an owner who hires and fire

     

     

    Enjoy your Sat Night all

     

     

    aff oot

  6. Regarding Robertson’s refereeing. Huns player deliberately elbows utd player. Not even a yellow never mind a red.

  7. fourstonecoppi on 18th October 2025 1:25 pm

     

     

    I’m not overly familiar with Lisa O’Neill so will have to check out more of her stuff as “The Wind Doesn’t Blow This Far Right” is stunning. One thing about the world being a total shitshow is its producing some great art.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    Ps just seen the zombies score hahaha

  8. BBC reporting Forest have made contact with Sean Dyche to replace Ange. That’s some strategy they’re following.

  9. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    Fair play to Hertz. This is impressive. They are much more potent than our hollowed out squad.

  10. Chairboy

     

     

    You have to feel for our poor unsupported top tier genius manager.

     

     

    He now has to contend with a domestic rival with almost 50% more squad value than Almaty who beat us in the CL play offs.

     

     

    Yes Hearts (who weirdly signed some pretty decent players this window despite spending a fraction of what we did) have a budget of almost 15% of the value of Celtic’s.

     

     

    However you don’t need to fret too much of course because it we don’t manage to overcome such a huge challenge it certainly won’t be the poor unsupported top tier managers fault.

     

     

    We all know nothing ever is. Not even the fiasco he has instigated around our club. Determined to do even more damage than he did to Leicester and Liverpool on his departure from these clubs.

     

     

    You can sleep easy.

  11. Note of the meeting held on Thursday 16 October

     

     

    The Celtic Fans Collective met at Graces in Glasgow on 16 October 2025, chaired by Paul Thomson and hosted by Paul John Dykes.

     

     

    The meeting followed on from the inaugural gathering in September and provided an update on the Collective’s progress, strategy and forthcoming actions. The interim steering group, established after the first meeting, now comprises twenty-one members representing a broad cross-section of the Celtic support, including official supporters’ associations, regional groups, online communities and independent fans. The group remains open to new involvement and continues to function on an interim basis while longer-term structures are developed. Communication channels are now well established, with active accounts on X, Instagram and Bluesky, alongside a dedicated email address for direct contact. A central website is also being built to serve as an information hub and future platform for fundraising and membership.

     

     

    Since the previous meeting, three significant match-day actions have taken place as part of the Collective’s ongoing campaign for accountability and meaningful engagement from the club’s board. The first was the “12 Minutes Without the 12th Man” protest at Kilmarnock, where supporters delayed entering the ground to highlight dissatisfaction with the board’s direction. This was followed by a visual display at Firhill and then a series of in-stadium silences agreed for matches against Hibs, Braga and Motherwell. The first silence, at the Hibs match, attracted considerable press coverage and drew public attention to supporters’ frustrations, leading to a request from the club to meet with fan representatives. The decision was taken to postpone the other planned silences and take the club up on its offer. The meeting took place on Monday 6 October, however those present agreed that it achieved little, with the Collective describing the club’s attitude as dismissive and contemptuous of supporters.

     

     

    In light of this failed dialogue, much of the meeting focused on how best to maintain pressure on the Celtic PLC board while ensuring unity across the fan base and avoiding actions that might negatively affect the team. There were differing perspectives shared in that a small number of voices were uncomfortable with certain protest actions, whilst some others felt that a more extreme approach would be needed, however there was a general agreement reached that visible, coordinated match-day protests should continue in a way that found the right balance to build pressure and maintain broad support. Suggestions included pre- kick-off protests that would be captured by broadcasters, a consistent twelfth-minute action at each match to provide a recognisable symbol of dissent, and a large-scale coordinated visual display at a home fixture in the lead-up to the club’s AGM. The tone of discussion emphasised the need for balance and there was agreement that match-day actions should continue to maintain pressure, but with clear parameters set to ensure they take place before kick-off, at half-time or after full-time, reflecting supporters’ wishes that the team not be disrupted during play.

     

     

    Attention then turned to preparations for the upcoming AGM. Jeanette Findlay of the Celtic Trust, speaking as part of the steering group, outlined two formal resolutions that have been drafted for submission. The first calls on the board to publish a clear strategic plan for the club, setting out its long-term objectives and performance indicators. The second declares that the current board is failing in its duties and calls for its resignation. Procedural difficulties have arisen due to the club’s new Company Secretary, who provided notice of the AGM deadline late in the evening of 13 October, giving only one night for shareholder requisitions to be submitted. The Collective and the Celtic Trust have formally requested a one-week extension to allow sufficient time to gather the required number of shareholder signatures. Regardless of the club’s response, the AGM will be used as a platform to challenge the board directly through the submission of questions, the use of proxy votes and the potential organisation of a visible yet peaceful demonstration outside or within the venue. The Trust has published an urgent call to shareholders for action through its website.

     

     

    Economic action was also discussed and agreed. There was overwhelming support within the room for a boycott of non-ticket products, and it was noted that many fans have begun boycotting unofficially already as a result of their dissatisfaction with the direction of the Club. The Collective endorsed a boycott of official club merchandise and non-essential match-day spending throughout the winter period, particularly over Christmas when retail sales are highest. The protest will be framed as a constructive outlet for supporters to impact the club’s commercial priorities and send a clear message about its direction, without disrupting the players or match-day support.

     

    Clear communications will accompany the campaign to encourage supporters to take part. The Collective will issue an initial public Statement to coincide with the next retail launch, followed by a more detailed communication outlining the rationale behind the boycott and next steps in the campaign. The communications subgroup will also consider some creative suggestions put forth on how it might frame messaging to build support for the boycott in the run up to Christmas. The boycott will be reviewed in February to decide whether it should continue or evolve into other forms of financial action.

     

     

    Donations to support the Collective’s ongoing work will open shortly, with suggested contributions from the original signatories and from supporters’ clubs. Larger organisations will be encouraged to contribute more where possible, but participation will remain voluntary. The meeting closed with agreement to continue matchday protests that build pressure but support the team, preparation for an assertive presence at the AGM, and the continued development of communication and funding infrastructure to support the next phase of the Collective’s campaign.

  12. Procedural difficulties have arisen due to the club’s new Company Secretary, who provided notice of the AGM deadline late in the evening of 13 October, giving only one night for shareholder requisitions to be submitted.

     

     

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    there is a governance failing right there, certainly not world class.

     

     

    would best practice be for the company to actually find all the 28,000 not voting, not responsive shareholders and bring the lists up to date.

  13. fourstonecoppi on

    Barrach Obampot on 18th October 2025 6:17 pm

     

    fourstonecoppi on 18th October 2025 1:25 pm

     

     

    ye check her tunes out very vey good, what a voice!

  14. Prestonpans bhoys on

    Turkeybhoy on 18th October 2025 7:31 pm

     

    Burnley 78,

     

    Obnoxious

     

     

    He needs to stop posting on here, after drinking his gin 🙄🤔

  15. FAVOURITE UNCLE on

    Prestonpans bhoys on 18th October 2025 5:09 pm

     

     

    Does p liewell buy his staples from you.

  16. The Celtic Trust has issued an urgent appeal to Celtic PLC shareholders, urging them to sign and return key forms before Monday, October 20, to ensure two resolutions appear on the agenda for next month’s 2025 AGM.

     

     

    The Trust says it was advised that the official deadline for shareholder resolutions had already passed, despite making earlier written requests for clarification. However, the group has since been told that if the necessary forms are submitted by Tuesday, October 21, the motions can still be included in the official AGM notice, leaving just days for shareholders to act.

     

     

    This eleventh-hour call comes at a time of mounting frustration among supporters over the club’s direction and lack of transparency. The Trust’s resolutions target both the structure and leadership of the Celtic PLC board, pushing for clear reform and accountability at executive level.

     

     

    Supporters who hold ordinary shares are being asked to visit the Celtic Trust website to access the required forms and back both motions before the looming deadline.

     

     

    Resolution 1: A strategic review and published plan

     

    “This AGM instructs the Board to prepare a strategic review and a published report with a football, financial, and strategic plan (medium term i.e. 3–5 years).

     

    The plan should contain a clear stated strategic aim and measurable football and financial goals for the board to target. Remuneration should be linked to achieving those goals.”

     

     

    Supporting statement:

     

    “It is abundantly clear that the gradual erosion of trust and confidence in the board has now reached a critical stage. Regardless of whether there are changes at Board and executive level, a published strategic plan (not a wish list) would both address the clear problems with the company and provide the degree of transparency and openness to start to repair the rift between the Board and the supporters/shareholders.”

     

     

    Resolution 2: No confidence in senior leadership

     

    “This AGM has no confidence in the Chief Executive, the Chairman and the Chief Financial Officer of Celtic PLC. Their handling of successive transfer windows; development of the stadium and fan engagement are not what should be expected for a club of Celtic’s stature. We further call on those non-Executive Directors who have been in place far too long and who consistently fail to hold the Executive Directors to account, to resign.”

     

     

     

    Supporting statement:

     

    “In 2021, a resolution was put to the Celtic PLC AGM calling for the replacement of Non-Executive Directors who have been in place for far longer than is healthy in terms of governance. While this was not passed due to bloc voting by major shareholders, it was overwhelmingly carried in the room.

     

    Since then, the situation has deteriorated both at Executive and Non-Executive level. Four of our NEDs have served for 15+ years, two are entering their third decade and one is entering their fourth. We contend that only a complete refresh of the Board will now resolve the situation.”

     

     

    With pressure already building on the Celtic hierarchy following months of supporter unrest, these resolutions mark the most direct challenge yet to the club’s leadership.

     

     

    For the Trust, this is about accountability and rebuilding trust between the board and the supporters who fund the club. For shareholders, the message is simple, act now, or risk losing your chance to push for real change.

  17. Heart of Midlothian extended their lead over Celtic to five points at the top of the Scottish Premiership with a dominant, three-goal win over Kilmarnock.

     

     

    Above from BBC Scotland Hearts v Kilmarnock match report. Looks like we don’t get to play our game against Dundee tomorrow I assume as they made no mention of our game in hand

  18. A new company secretary ? do they not know their responsibilities ? see if you can point to where they are failing ?

     

     

    Like having a lawyer for ceo when they didnt want the job largely because they are shy and cannot communicate.

     

     

     

     

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    A company secretary job description involves overseeing a company’s administrative and legal compliance, advising the board on corporate governance, and managing statutory records, meetings, and filings. Key duties include maintaining company registers, organizing and minuting board and shareholder meetings, and ensuring compliance with legal and regulatory requirements, such as filings with the relevant authority like Companies House. This role is distinct from a general administrative secretary and is strategic in providing guidance to directors.

     

     

    Core responsibilities

     

    Corporate governance: Provide advice to the board on corporate governance, director duties, and legal and statutory requirements.

     

     

    Statutory record maintenance: Maintain and update statutory registers, including those for directors, shareholders, and charges on assets.

     

     

    Meeting administration: Organize board and shareholder meetings, prepare and circulate agendas, and record and distribute minutes.

     

     

    Legal and regulatory filings: File annual returns and other required documents with regulatory bodies like Companies House.

     

     

    Information management: Keep company details, such as registered office and contact information, up to date.

     

     

    Document management: Manage and secure key company legal documents, including the certificate of incorporation and articles of association.

     

     

    Shareholder relations: Serve as a point of contact for shareholders and manage tasks related to share certificates and transfers.

     

     

    Compliance: Ensure the company is compliant with all legal and regulatory requirements.

  19. In 1996, Muscat was sent off in his first season in the UK in a match involving Crystal Palace and Norwich City after body checking Norwich player Darren Eadie which then sparked a 21-man melee where punches were thrown. Two other players were also sent off in the incident.[23]

     

     

    Muscat was branded a “lowlife” and a “nobody” by ex-England striker Ian Wright, then of Nottingham Forest, in September 1999. Wright claimed he was about to shoot when he heard Dougie Freedman, Forest’s other striker, shout “leave it”. Wright stepped over the ball to allow Freedman to hit it, but instead Muscat (who had, according to Wright, merely impersonated Freedman) appeared to clear the ball.[24]

     

     

    Muscat was dubbed the “most hated man in football” by then Birmingham City player Martin Grainger in 2000 after a reckless tackle against international teammate, Stan Lazaridis.[25] He seriously injured both Craig Bellamy and Christophe Dugarry, the latter in a friendly international between Australia and France in 2001 with a sliding tackle from behind.[25] The French manager Roger Lemerre dubbed the tackle “an act of brutality”.[25][26]

     

     

    In March 2002, Muscat was sent off after nine minutes in a match against Grimsby Town for elbowing Grimsby striker Michael Boulding. Wolves lost the match and Muscat was suspended for three matches following the incident.[27]

     

     

    In 2003, after only three weeks since signing for Millwall, Muscat was fined and reprimanded by Millwall after a match against Watford where he gave away a penalty and was sent off for stamping on Watford’s Danny Webber. Millwall chief executive, Ken Brown, formally warned Muscat that he would be sacked if he did not “clean up his act.” “Kevin’s actions were totally unacceptable. We have made him aware that such behavior will not be tolerated. Any repeat of such a deliberate, unprovoked, off-the-ball incident will result in his instant dismissal.”[28][29]

     

     

    In 2004, a lawsuit on Muscat brought by former Charlton Athletic player Matty Holmes resulted in a settlement of £250,000 plus costs in favour of Holmes, bringing the estimated settlement to around £750,000. Holmes had to have four operations on his leg following a tackle by Muscat in 1998, and there were initial fears that his leg might have to be amputated. The claim was settled at the High Court without any admission of liability.[30][31] In a League Cup tie while at Millwall, he grabbed the throat of Liverpool striker Milan Baroš.[32] Also in 2004, Iwan Roberts admitted he deliberately stamped on Muscat in a match against Norwich City in revenge for his attempt to injure Craig Bellamy in 1999. Roberts was subsequently fined and suspended by The Football Association for his comments.[33]

     

     

    In March later that year while playing for Millwall, Muscat was red carded and suspended for five games following an altercation in the tunnel at half time with Sheffield United goalkeeper Paddy Kenny. United went on to win the game 2–1 despite having to use an outfield player in goal, and as Millwall players were walking off the pitch, Blades manager Neil Warnock was seen shaking players’ hands while also saying “serves you right for f*cking Muscat, that” – one of which being former Chelsea assistant manager, Jody Morris.[34]

     

     

    In December 2005, he was the first A-League player to appear before a FFA disciplinary hearing and was subsequently suspended for two matches for “violent conduct”.[35] At an A-league game in October 2006 Muscat clashed with then Adelaide United coach John Kosmina, knocking Kosmina from his chair while retrieving the ball. Kosmina responded by grabbing Muscat by the throat, an action for which Kosmina was suspended for four matches.[36][37]

     

     

    Muscat’s dominant personality and aggressive style did win some admirers in the A-League, with former England international Terry Butcher stating “Every manager in the A-League would love to have Kevin, and I’m no exception”.[38]

     

     

    In February 2009, Muscat “escaped” further sanction by the FFA for stamping on Adelaide United defender, Daniel Mullen, while challenging for the ball. Due to the referee seeing the incident during the match, as according to A-League protocol, the Match Review Panel had no authority to intervene any further.[39]

     

     

    In January 2010, Muscat was suspended for two games for elbowing Gold Coast United midfielder, Jason Culina, in an off the ball incident.[40]

     

     

    In October 2010, Manchester United winger Ashley Young recalled he was threatened by Muscat during his first professional match as an 18-year-old. “Kevin Muscat said he would break my legs if I went past him,” said Young. Their meeting occurred as they were warming up for an encounter between Watford and Millwall back in September 2003, but Muscat was sent off for stamping on Watford’s Danny Webber before Young came on as substitute for Watford.[41]

     

     

    In January 2011, Muscat was sent off for elbowing Adelaide United midfielder Adam Hughes in the face while following through on a challenge for the ball.[42]

     

     

    In his first match back from suspension, Muscat was then suspended for eight matches following a tackle on Melbourne Heart player Adrian Zahra in a Melbourne Derby.[43][44] The tackle was widely condemned in Australia and around the world, with former Socceroo Mark Bosnich calling it a “disgrace”.[45][46]

     

     

    In a professional career spanning 19 years from 1992 to 2011, Muscat received 123 yellow cards and 12 red cards.[47][48][21][49]

     

     

    In December 2013, the Spanish football website El Gol Digital named Muscat as football’s dirtiest ever player.[50]

  20. Irony bypass- The Peter Lawwell principle –

     

     

     

    I worked with many people like this, the biggest failing being their inability to recognise they were wrong. Sound familiar.

     

     

     

    The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to “a level of respective incompetence”: employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another.[1][2]

     

     

    The concept was explained in the 1969 book The Peter Principle (William Morrow and Company) by Laurence Peter and Raymond Hull.[3] Hull wrote the text, which was based on Peter’s research. Peter and Hull intended the book to be satire,[4] but it became popular as it was seen to make a serious point about the shortcomings of how people are promoted within hierarchical organizations. The Peter principle has since been the subject of much commentary and research.

     

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    Company Secretary

     

    JOANNE MCNAIRN

     

     

    Appointed: July, 2024

     

    Joanne was promoted to Company Secretary on 1 July 2024 and has been with the Club for over 20 years. During this time, Joanne has managed the brand protection and compliance functions across the Club and will continue to undertake the role of Data Protection Officer (DPO). Joanne will also continue in the role of Secretary for both Celtic Pools and Celtic FC Foundation. Joanne also represents Celtic on various working groups, including the European Club Association (ECA) Brand Protection Taskforce and a UK Football DPO Forum.

  21. the Bada Bing on 18th October 2025 8:00 pm

     

    Rumour Ange and Marinakis had a punch up at HT

     

     

    it was a greek wrestle.

  22. FAVOURITE UNCLE on

    Prestonpans bhoys on 18th October 2025 5:09 pm

     

     

     

    sorry that was meant for BURNLEY.

  23. Prestonpans bhoys on

    FAVOURITE UNCLE on 18th October 2025 8:11 pm

     

     

     

    No worries, I guessed the arrow was not in my direction 👍