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  1. Vmhan,if your jooking in,enjoy your last day in the sun..

     

    Commons to run the show today and score first..

  2. West Wales Celt on 6 May, 2012 at 12:16 said:

     

     

    Forster:Lustig Loovens Mulgrew:Matthews Brown Ledley Izaguirre:Commons:Hooper Stokes

     

     

    subs Zaluska,Rogne,Wanyama,McGeouch,Ibrahim,Bangura,Watt

  3. Auld Neil Lennon heid on

    Auld Neil Lennon heid on 6 May, 2012 at 12:17 said:

     

     

     

    From previous

     

     

    Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 6 May, 2012 at 12:10 said:

     

     

    Maybe, but it is taking some chance going against what the individual clubs want to happen.I find it astonishing that in a matter as as important as this clubs have disenfranchised themselves.

  4. Forster; Lustig, Loovens, Mulgrew, Izaguirre; Matthews, Brown, Ledley, Commons; Hooper, Stokes.

     

     

    Zaluska, Bangura, McGeouch, Watt, Wanyama, Ibrahim, Rogne

  5. Auld Neil Lennon heid on

    And again from previous just to answer a question.

     

     

    Fassreifen on 6 May, 2012 at 12:00 said:

     

     

    It depends on how a club license is granted by the SFA to a Newco if it sees the light of day and I suspect the SFA/UEFA are keeping their powder dry but if that process is applied as the SFA web site states (and it should be to stop charlatans taking over from charlatans) then Newco would fail the Three Years accounts rule or if the Oldcos history were used fail on unpaid tax and debt to football (and probably unaudited accounts for last year.) The whole point about club licensing is to protect other clubs (in this case from themselves).

     

     

    UEFA FFP says

     

     

    Article 4 – Exception policy

     

    The UEFA administration may grant an exception to the provisions set out in part II within the limits set out in Annex I.

     

     

    ANNEX I: Exceptions policy

     

    A. Principle

     

    1. The UEFA administration may, in accordance with Article 4, grant exceptions on the following matters:

     

    a) Non-applicability of a minimum requirement concerning the decision-making bodies or process defined in Article 7 due to national law or any other reason;

     

    b) Non-applicability of a minimum requirement concerning the core process

     

    defined in Article 9 due to national law or any other reason;

     

    c) Non-applicability of a minimum assessment procedure defined in Article 10 due to national law or any other reason;

     

    d) Non-applicability of the three-year rule defined in Article 12(2) in case of

     

    change of legal form or company structure of the licence applicant on a caseby-case basis;

     

    e) Non-applicability of a certain criterion defined in part II, chapter 3 due to

     

    national law or any other reason;

     

    f) Extension of the introduction period for the implementation of a criterion or a category of criterion defined in part II, chapter 3.

     

    2. Exceptions related to items a), b), c), e) and f) are granted to a UEFA member association and apply to all clubs which are registered with the UEFA member association and which submit a licensing application to enter the UEFA club competitions. Exceptions related to item d) are granted to the individual club that applies for a licence.

     

    3. An exception is granted for a period of one season. Under specific

     

    circumstances this period may be extended and the UEFA member association may be placed on an improvement plan.

     

    4. A renewal of the exception is possible upon a new request.

     

     

    B. The process

     

    1. The UEFA administration acts as the first instance decision-making body on exception requests.

     

    2. An exception request must be in writing, clear and well founded.

     

    3. Exceptions related to items defined under A(1)(a, b, c, e and f) must be

     

    submitted by the UEFA member association to the UEFA administration by the deadline communicated by the latter.

     

     

    4. Exceptions related to the item defined under A(1)(d) can be submitted at any time. A licensor notified of the reorganisation or restructuring of an affiliated club (e.g. change of legal form, merger of clubs, split of club, liquidation or bankruptcy) is responsible for notifying the UEFA administration accordingly as soon as it becomes aware of it.

     

    5. The UEFA administration uses the necessary discretion to grant any exception within the limits of these regulations.

     

    6. The status and situation of football within the territory of the UEFA member association will be taken into account when granting an exception. This encompasses, for example:

     

    a) size of the territory, population, geography, economic background;

     

    b) size of the UEFA member association (number of clubs, number of registered players and teams, size and quality of the administration of the association,etc.);

     

    c) the level of football (professional, semi-professional or amateur clubs);

     

    d) status of football as a sport within the territory and its market potential

     

    (average attendance, TV market, sponsorship, revenue potential, etc.);

     

    e) UEFA coefficient (association and its clubs) and FIFA ranking;

     

    f) stadium ownership situation (club, city/community, etc.) within the

     

    association;

     

    g) support (financial and other) from the national, regional and local authorities,including the national sports ministry.

     

    7. The decision will be communicated to the UEFA member association. The

     

    decision must be in writing and state the reasoning. The UEFA member

     

    association must then communicate it to all licence applicants concerned.

     

    8. Appeals can be lodged against decisions made by the UEFA administration or, if applicable, the UEFA Executive Committee in writing before the Court ofArbitration for Sport (CAS) in accordance with the relevant provisions laid down in the UEFA Statutes.

  6. If the SPL board are taking soundings of all 11 clubs re. newco straight back in to SPL, will they then vote as a block, i.e. 5-0, dependant on what the 11 vote for? Will the decision of the 11 be based on a simple 6-5 vote?

  7. Hi Bhoys and Ghirls

     

     

    CELTIC TEAM: Forster; Lustig, Loovens, Mulgrew, Izaguirre; Matthews, Brown, Ledley, Commons; Hooper, Stokes.

     

     

    Subs: Zaluska, Bangura, McGeouch, Watt, Wanyama, Ibrahim, Rogne.

  8. Sandman Is Neil Lennon on

    IanBhoy929 on 6 May, 2012 at 12:19 said:

     

     

    Is Sammi injured?

     

     

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    Sammi’s got the Euros coming up. I’m thinking Lenny doing his fitness a favour by leaving him out the last games to avoid injury.

  9. I really like the thinking of this poster (from videocelts website)

     

     

    “If Rangers are given this special status does it mean that Celtic also have it? If it is impossible to relegate either club then why would anyone bother?

     

     

    Also, could Celtic build a strong team which wins four in a row for example. Then, sell all those players for a huge profit and just play the youth team for a season, having previously arranged with the SPL and people like Johnston that there would be no relegation.

     

     

    Huge investment in the team would then happen and another 3 or 4 years of dominance for the whole thing to happen again.

     

     

    Celtic would have an opportunity to find out which youth players are most likely to make it in actual games and there would be no pressure as there is no relegation.

     

     

    Could Celtic take a year off and tour the world playing exhibition matches earning extra money while allowing a youth team or the ladies team to take the place of the first team. Maybe this could be a real money spinner as Celtic may be able to pick and choose when they play their first team in the SPL as they need Celtic, any Celtic.

     

     

    With no danger of ever being relegated I am sure that we would accept winning three out of four championships and one season being fallow to allow the board to reproup and then invest for another period of domination. The supporters could buy season tickets at reduced prices for the fallow year to see the ‘stars of the future’.”

  10. jist in fae the jiggin’

     

     

    Ah like the Fact the Adam is gettin a shot in Mid Field.

     

     

    He is Versatile.. and

     

    He is Very Talented..

     

     

    Interesting Experiment, Neil.

     

     

    Kojo

     

     

    Still.. Happy and Laughin’ and Smilin’

  11. Sandman Is Neil Lennon on 6 May, 2012 at 12:22 said:

     

     

    Yes, you’re probably right.

  12. Auld Neil Lennon heid,

     

     

    Clubs haven’t disenfranchised themselves; they were never franchised in the first place.This was always a board decision in the circumstances.

     

     

    Article 14, which requires a Qualified Resolution (ie 90% support) among member clubs for a transfer of share only applies specifically when a club is liquidated or otherwise becomes ineligible to hold a share. It doesn’t apply where a club “volunteers” to transfer its share to another body.

     

     

    The rules don’t say what would happen if a Qualified Resolution couldn’t get 90% support among members – if two bodies were applying for the share and the vote was split!

  13. Afternoon like the look of that team, looks like Neil is trying to give everyone a game as the season finishs.

     

    Hope for a few goals then give Mo and Ibriaham a run both impressed me on Thursday.

     

    Glasgows Green and White

  14. ArranmoreBhoyLXV11 on

    Mon the hoops.. Holiday Monday and Celtic match and champions.. Rankers in disarray ..

     

     

    Life is GOOD.. Happy days ..

     

     

    HH

  15. Auld Neil Lennon heid on

    Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 6 May, 2012 at 12:18 said:

     

     

    Spot on. Could be a Ratner vote if they are not careful.

  16. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 6 May, 2012 at 12:24 said:

     

    Has Zaluska signed a new contract ?

     

     

    Yes about 3 or 4 weeks ago.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  17. West Wales Celt on

    Kayal:

     

    Thanks.

     

    Would have liked to see Mo get another start personally. The lhad showed some encouraging signs last game and you’d hope a goal might make all the difference…

  18. NegAnon2

     

     

    I really wish that I could say.

     

     

    But I can’t, it’s my quote, but I genuinely with all my heart believe, it is factually accurate.

     

     

    I think Celtic financial profit would if anything increase in terms of ‘new added support’ – if the cheats were removed to the Third Division.

     

     

    We shouldn’t need the Celtic Board to reaffirm to the Support that they will act in our

     

    collective wishes, and choose a few more dollars.

     

     

    Commercialism would take a back seat as Celtic would support sporting integrity before they would support a Rangers Newco.

     

     

    If I am not allowed to believe that, then the Celtic ideal is not the one I support.

     

     

    I expect continued silence from Celtic for the time being.

  19. The No.13 Shorts on

    Repost from previous thread

     

     

    I have come to the conclusion that Celtic PLC have a ace up their sleeves. Based on absolutely nothing other than the fact that they haven’t (as far as I’m aware) spoken to the CSC’s and don’t want to show their hand too soon. I hope they are simply waiting on the FTT results and UEFA double contracts implications.

     

     

    PL/DD haters take note: Celtic will be well aware that they will be very significant financial losers from this if Rangers get back in via legal jiggery pokery.

     

     

    No matter what anyone on here says, the horror of the thought of empty seats next year will be keeping PL awake at night and, as a result, I, pesonally, give more credit to his intelligence than to give credence to the theory that he thinks a simple shrug of the shoulders and a “we tried” approach will suffice (because it won’t).

     

     

    This is the circle that must be square and Celtic know it.

     

     

    I also recall that P67 alludes to the fact many moons ago that Celtic would be pursuing legal channels to gain compensation (from MIH?) for lost Champions League revenue over many years.

     

     

    We are living in someone else’s interesting times and they are trying to make it interesting for us. My hunch is that we, at present, are playing a blinder and the fan’s patience is key. By all means hold off on renewing season tickets until things develop, but, above all else, have patience.

     

     

    HungOverClarityCSC

  20. Lennybhoy,commons will score first,and Stokes will score third..

     

    The last time I got a first,Rangers had money..

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