This evening’s announcement by Dunfermline Athletic that they no longer expect to receive timely receipt of the £80,000 ticket money Rangers FC PLC (in administration) owe them will heighten concerns at Inverness Caledonian Thistle, who have a stock at tickets with Rangers right now, money for which will be received by the administrators in advance of their game later this month.
The administrators have yet to decide whether to retain high-earning players or make more funds available for existing creditors, and future creditors, like Inverness. As ticket sales for the Inverness game are on-going, the administrators will need to be aware of their legal position before retaining a premium squad.
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Salmond wasn’t too concerned for the taxpayer when he was claiming his Westminster salary at the same time as being an MSP.
amadeus says:
16 February, 2012 at 09:47
That sounds intriguing. So what of this statement from the SPL?
The Rangers Football Club PLC in Administration
Following Rangers FC entering administration today, the SPL confirmed that a number of sporting sanctions have been applied to the club.
An Scottish Premier League spokesperson said: “As Rangers FC is subject to an Insolvency Event, a 10-point deduction has been applied to its total points in the League Championship for the current Season. In addition, Rangers FC is subject to restrictions on the registration of Players with the SPL whilst in administration.
“We are seeking an early meeting with the Administrators.”
Notes
The SPL Rules in relation to insolvency (SPL Rule A6.8 to A6.20), which include an automatic 10 point deduction in the event of administration, were adopted by the clubs at a General Meeting in January 2004.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:
16 February, 2012 at 09:46
Look on the bright side. 2 minutes of everybody else’s lives saved by not reading it ;-)
Good Happy Administration Morning from the Hebrides.
Just had this discourse with my msp.
bampot – the hun riots in Manchester, their bombs and bullets, and now their tax evasion have made international headlines. Unlike wee eck I don’t see any of this as a “fun” part of Scottish football. I see it as illegal, shameful and something that must be condemned.
msp – errr wee eck’s a jambo! Wait and I’ll get the press release from 08!
bampot – Hold on I didn’t ask for that. Where’s his condemnation of the tax dodgers tax dodging?
msp – cue tumbleweed…
ernie lynch says:
16 February, 2012 at 09:45
If that’s true it’s the first time Salmond has opened his mouth without political gain as his first thought. Put it this way, he’s not losing many ‘Celtic’ votes with these utterances but if he was to say “Pay your taxes, and if it destroys you so be it” he surely would lose a whole heap of ‘Rangers’ ones (and you’d be surprised how many Rangers fans I know are currently pro independence ie it’s not 0).
Extra bits onto my post @ 9.39
JMcF was right about transparency and financial monitoring of football clubs like the regime used in Ayer any.
Greater transparency is the way forward.
Tax payment details in the yearly accounts?
Sounds good to me.
Wee Eck and his fawning over the TFOD, their history and the ‘joi de vivre’ of their fans tells you all you need to know about his worldview and his shameless attention seeking.
It wasn’t just one poor interview it is the central theme of his response to this great tragedy.
Finally EBTs, surely now they need to be outlawed.
Just how does a PLC / Company A get away with giving money to a third party with no recourse to get it returned so that this third party may or may not financially help / aid the employees of Company A at some time in the future in any manner that they see fit.
Company A is just giving money away.
It should not be allowed, in Football or anywhere else.
Naked tax scam of the highest order.
they will officially be in admin in ten days.
not before.
the BBC deals only in proven fact (apart from Jabba)
amadeus at 09:47
Did you miss the news on Tuesday? they are definately in administration with Duff and Phelps appointed administrators. The 10 point penalty has already kicked in.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tables
Mort
Paul67
so even links that exceed 80 characters and have been created with the link creator whose description is less than 80 are still spam filter candidates ?
Looks that way to me unless the spam filter found a naughty word in my last post which would surprise me.
Hail Hail
apologies, it’s now nine days
amadeus 16 February, 2012 at 09:47
Ahem, the BBC has not adjusted the table, becuase the hun is not yet in administration.
It will be updated as soon as they are.
Two days ago news tomorrow?
There isn’t half one load of cobblers being spouted on this site today as regards the SNP attitude towards HMRC FC.
You guys all know I am a Labourite, but this SNP bashing, turning them into a sectarian organisation with designs on saving Rangers through intervention …. it is purely and simply garbage.
The level of political discourse on this site reminds me at times why I’m not in favour of compulsory voting.
If the Scottish government (run by the SNP) assists Rangers financially they are DONE FOR. That is why it WILL NOT HAPPEN. If Glasgow City Council (run by Labour), in an election year, assists Rangers financially they are DONE FOR. That is why it WILL NOT HAPPEN.
The politicians of EVERY party are spouting the same stuff. This is not a conspiracy, it’s politicians doing what they do best … talking NONSENSE.
Ask them if they intend to write a cheque. Ask them if they are condoning tax fraud.
If the Huns fans (and some of the people on here) believe government – ANY government – will use public money to bail out Rangers they are living in a fantasy.
Which is not to say these people should not be challenged for saying what they are. It’s all designed to create the climate by which the Hun can parachute right back into the SPL.
THAT is the fight we need to KEEP focussed on.
Those HMRC/administrator talks in full:
Hector: Gies the money
Duff & Dumber: Naw
July 2011: McGreggor signs bumper 6yr contract.
July 2011: Davis signs bumper 5yr contract.
Aug 2011: Rangers stop paying tax.
McGreggor and Davis now the players’ unofficial spokesmen.
Not suggesting anything other than Rangers offering bumper contracts with no intention of paying tax, it would seem.
The Pantaloon Duck says:
16 February, 2012 at 09:51
That is very true sir !!!
Hail Hail
trust me, they are not yet in administration, these wheels turn slowly, which is good really
oh yeah… Hibee’s the weekend, forgot
canny wait goin te be sum atmosphere
H.H
they have served a “notice of intent”
that is where we are right now
it will be interesting to see how the players react later – we will see how many mercenaries they have on the books
amadeus at 09:54
That was the position on monday when they declared an intention to enter administration, they had 10 days from then. Things changed on Tuesday when HMRC lodged a petition to put them into administration and the court appointed Duff and Phelps as administrators.
You must be the last person in the world to know that they are in administration.
Mort
Daily Record=Whyte’s the bad guy, The Sun=Whyte’s misunderstood. Typical tabloid nonesense.
from The Sun
CRAIG WHYTE woke up yesterday morning and knew the price he will have to pay for being the man who took Rangers into administration.
After 48 of the darkest hours in the Ibrox club’s 140-year history, Whyte realises deep down that his reign as Gers chairman is OVER.
SunSport can reveal that even if he manages to haul the stricken champions out of administration before the deadline for making European football on March 31, Whyte fears his standing with the fans who once lauded him has been irreparably damaged.
He will never clasp a trophy for the cameras again, never raise a title flag in front of the adoring Govan faithful.
Even if the nightmare route he has taken Rangers down proves to be the road to recovery, Whyte will fade into the shadows at Ibrox.
Last night a trusted source in the Whyte camp told SunSport: “Craig still expects to be in control of Rangers when the club comes out of administration.
“But whether he can be chairman or not? He sees himself as being more low-profile.
“The publicity side doesn’t sit well with him and he will be more low key.
“He believes the feeling is his regime CAN come back if the club is debt free and Rangers move onwards.
“But he does not desire to have a high-profile role in the future.”
Yesterday both Sky Sports and BBC broadcast that 40-year-old venture capitalist Whyte had fled the scene of Gers’ demise and bolted for his home in Monaco.
In truth, he was in London for crisis talks with administrators Duff & Phelps as he bids to find some way of giving the fans at least European football to cling to next season.
SunSport understands the next financial move will be to unveil the suggested Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA).
Gers will offer their creditors a percentage of the debts to wipe the slate clean — no deal, though, is possible without HMRC’s agreement.
Our source confirmed: “The plan remains to have the club out of administration by March 31.
“There is a CVA offer drawn up and ready to be offered to the creditors.
“If that can be accepted in time Rangers CAN make it before March 31 and come out.
“That is his big hope, that is Plan A.”
Whyte’s camp know the Gers chairman has now become a hate figure in the eyes of large sections of the support.
He was booed and jeered by furious fans as he stood outside Ibrox and announced the club was lurching into administration on Monday night.
There is deep anger, though, within the Gers hierarchy over what they see as intransigence from HMRC officials hell-bent on pushing them over the brink.
The Whyte regime are disputing £4.7million of the £9m tax bill HMRC revealed as unpaid on Monday. That remaining £4.3m consists of £1m VAT on the sale of Croat striker Nikica Jelavic to Everton and £3.3m of PAYE due to the taxman.
Our source stressed: “Of that £9m, £4.7m is in dispute.
“Of the balance HMRC were offered most of that paid in full on Friday and they REFUSED to take it.
“Rangers is running at a loss and they WERE late with the rest of the tax money.
“HMRC, though, said they wanted the full £9m paid and refused the option of taking the £4.3m while both parties sort out the ‘small tax case’.
“When Craig Whyte took over from David Murray the initial tax bill was £2.8m — now that has grown into £4.7m.
“He has been advised that sum was not correct and Rangers were also told HMRC were too late in serving those papers.
“That case is in dispute and Rangers feel the goalposts have been moved.”
Rangers, though, are NOT penniless. Insiders insist there are still MILLIONS in the club’s bank account.
Money has not vanished, Whyte has not done a runner.
The embattled Rangers chairman, though, is fighting what looks certain to be a vain andlosing battle with the taxman.
I understand that — without knowing the outcome of the £49m tax tribunal case — Rangers offered HMRC a staged payment plan of £2.5m per season.
That plan would have kept the club out of administration.
It was rebuffed.
The taxman’s refusal to look at that scheme or take the £4.3m parcel of cash offered on Friday sent Scotland’s stricken champions over the precipice.
Whyte’s hierarchy felt they had nowhere left to go and our source insisted: “Rangers were left with no option with the European Club Licensing date looming on March 31.
“They had to go into administration to give them any chance of making European football next season.
“They needed to go into next season with a clean slate.
“Sadly, that means there WILL undoubtedly be job losses at Ibrox, the level of which will be decided by the administrators.
“That means players who it is felt have little or no residual value will be looked at.”
Nine months ago Whyte knew the massive problems that were lurking within Rangers Football Club.
His biggest PR mistake was choosing not to share his fears with a Gers support celebrating after another dramatic last day title win at Rugby Park. He should have lifted the lid on the lot, told the Gers fans there and then that the next campaign would be a chapter of fiscal pain.
Instead he wrongly elected to try and paper over the cracks and two Euro exits meant the walls came tumbling down.
Naive in the workings of the media, the Rangers chairman also badly underestimated the ferocity of the arena he was now working in.
SunSport’s Whyte insider admitted: “His big mistake was not making it ALL public, there were huge problems.
“Rangers had just won a title and he felt as if he would be spoiling the party.
“Now he has gone through the worst week of his life.
“But some should realise that if it wasn’t him doing this it would be someone else.
“David Murray or the old board would have had to take the same action.
“A good result for Rangers in the major tax case would be a liability of less than £10million.
“Even then, if that happens HMRC have vowed ‘we will appeal, appeal and appeal again’.
“That made administration inevitable. This is as painful as it gets but this is the way out.
“Craig Whyte will have to hope in years to come people will see that this had to happen.”
Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot…#ixzz1mV1FJ3cI
FIFA has warned the French government to tread very carefully in its dealings with the French Football Federation (FFF) in the aftermath of the team’s humiliating exit from the World Cup.
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Jerome Valcke: Cautious over dealings with the FFF.
On Thursday, French captain Patrice Evra said the government was going to launch an investigation into the national side’s dismal performance. His comments came less than 24 hours after Thierry Henry asked for a meeting with France’s president Nicolas Sarkozy.
FIFA, whose rules specifically prohibit governments from involvement with the running of national federations, responded by contacting the sports ministry to request it to be cautious in its dealings with the FFF.
“We have spoken with the office of the sports minister and have said that there is a need to be very careful that there is autonomy of football,” Jerome Valcke, the secretary general of FIFA, said. “They can meet, they can discuss, they can ask for apologies from the people involved, but they need to be careful because if there is interference FIFA will react just as with any country in the world.
“What I’m saying is we will definitely look at what France is doing, but it is to avoid having a difficult situation. There was not a warning, but advice was given from my side about our system and how the pyramid of football is working. To cut a long story short, no one can ask for someone to resign.”
FIFA has the power to suspend any federation where there is evidence of government interference.
“There is a system in place to run football around the world and that system is under the umbrella of FIFA,” Valcke said. “We are always monitoring things and warning people how this pyramid of football is working. I hope we are able to avoid a situation where we have to say there is an interference. We are not anxious, simply attentive to the problem.”
As a Frenchman himself, Valcke admitted the situation concerned him. “The coaches are going to have a great deal to do to put together a good team. Laurent [Blanc, the new coach] has one year to succeed in trying to consolidate his team and provide some hope that not only [the players] want to wear the French jersey but also that they want to give some pleasure to the fans and repair what has happened in this World Cup.”
word reaches me that “newco” hasn’t a cat’s chance of being admitted to the SPL
ernie lynch says:
16 February, 2012 at 09:49
You don’t know me or my politics, Che. It just seems to me that you open your mouth and let your belly rumble. I have yet to read anything from you that is founded in original facts. You are opinionated but your opinions are based on little substance. You are incapable of original thought and you attempt to pass guesswork as knowledge. I will let you know if you ever write anything of worth.
Mort 16 February, 2012 at 09:57
You must be the last person in the world to know that they are in administration.
Apart from the guy who updates the league table on BBC Scotland.
Awnaw, now that you’re on, any chance of a repost of the ff debate about whether the flag was the right way up from donkey’s ago?
Apologies if I’m confused and it wasn’t you that put it up.
FT
optimistic little soldier at 09:54
Yeah its very easy to offer a player a pay rise and long term contract when you don’t intend paying tax on it.
e.g. McGregor on £20k a week (for simplistic terms 50% tax means take home pay of £10k a week)
Now £30k a week so he gets £15k before tax but as Rangers aint paying tax, they save £5k a week.
Great way to do business if you can get away with it.
Mort
amadeus says:
16 February, 2012 at 09:56
what was Mars like;-)
Former Celtic stopper Alan Stubbs: I’ve got no complaints over titles Rangers won while I was at Parkhead
This claptrap we are hearing from the Scottish Media and Sky (with their Rangers supportiung sports controller) is frightening, biutif you look beyond the headlines you will see articles, by such as the excellent Patrick Barclay which urge you NOT to feel pity for the Rangers fans.
*feel for the taypayer who has been swindled for years.
*feel sorry for the nurses, the ‘Angels’ forced to strike for the right deal (as Cousin arrives at a club bankrupt, both morally and financially)
*and feel for the alleged ‘Hero’s’ of the British armed forces – often paraded at half time at Ibrox for some pseudo-politcal effect – did their mates take a bullet just for David Murrays Ego Trip?
what a joke of a club, they say don’t want pity?
Bottom Line – This club and their fans do not deserve pity, nor salvation.
Both comments taken from the Daily Record,how ignorant can Stubbs be?Would he have been facing the same calibre of player if her majesty had received her due taxes?He would do well to remember Celtic fans paid good money to follow their team in that period now to find out it was not even remotely a level playing field.
amadeus at 09:57
word reaches me that “newco” hasn’t a cat’s chance of being admitted to the SPL
From the man who doesn’t know they are in administration.
Mort
amadeus says:
16 February, 2012 at 09:57
word reaches me that “newco” hasn’t a cat’s chance of being admitted to the SPL
——————–
Unfortunately the RFC Cat has nine lives – so I estimate it has a few left
honest mistake
updated here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tables
Select SPL
Mort
Ernie Lynch
I still love you, even though you’ve been on the sherry already this morning.
Hoots Mon.
x
Rangers are not in administration? So what are those guys doing in Ibrox? You know – the administrators?
Politicians are making the noises they usually make. Must save jobs, etc. They all have elections to fight in the future of course and won’t want to annoy the huns by declaring that they brought it all on themselves, which we all know to be true.
The SNP, and Salmond in particular, have to be careful here. They are trying to portray themselves as a reasonable party of government and that means they cannot be seen to be condoning the non payment of tax. But is it a blow to their psyche to see a Scottish institution in such dire straits? Of course it is. And they can’t even declare HMRC as London based – because they get a share of the tax take.
amadeus says:
16 February, 2012 at 09:56
I think Amadeus is declan.
Mort 16 February, 2012 at 10:01:
T’was only a wee joke.
James Forrest is The Emperor of Ice Cream says:
16 February, 2012 at 09:53
I disagree.
I think Curran is a Tim. I suspect that on a personal level she’d be happy if the huns went bust, though oviously she can’t say that.
Robson, or whatever her name is, I know nothing about. She probably couldn’t care less either way.
Salmond genuinely wants the huns to survive and will do whatever he can to ensure that objective (probably nothing I agree). He’s not just making noises for the sake of it.
Amadeus – Rangers formally went into admin at 2.50 on Tuesday. The SPL have already formally declared the points deduction
I have one thing in common with Craig Whyte .
He wants The Hun to be liquidated -so do I
SNP politicians doing what populists always do -pander to the people.
Been away for a long time —- took me a while to place Margaret Curran and then dug up a wee memory ——
Glasgow Green — May Day —– big tent —— Bill Morris speaking . Guy near me is giving Bill pelters re his refusal to support the Liverpool Dockers . Woman [ Margaret Curran ] tells the guy to cool it and adds that she does not want her child to see a black man being abused by a white man . Guy emphatically advises her where to go and adds —-
I paraphrase —- ‘ Excrement is excrement — it comes in many colors “