Well done to everyone for the win against Morton. After a difficult week it was good to get the result sorted out before halftime. Fixing poor form is seldom a straightforward business, but yesterday’s win was our sixth game in a month, with the loss of only one goal in that period.
The five games before this run didn’t produce a single clean sheet. Erik Sviatchenko started only the last of those five games (at Pittodrie), so while the sample size isn’t enough to draw clear conclusions, it’s an early indication the Dane has tightened things up at the back.
One thing Erik hasn’t been able to do is turn Celtic into a team which looks like it knows how to defend a corner kick. A Morton corner fell into the six-yard box to an attacker’s foot (never mind head). We’ve seen dozens of these horror-show set-pieces this season. They have cost us in the Champions League, Europa League, League Cup and in the Premiership. The Scottish Cup is the only tournament we’ve got away with it, so far.
You are I are beyond despairing at this point, let’s just get it sorted, Celtic.
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quonno
So Celtics way forward is defined by a repuked identity? since when? The old identity that ‘selfharmed’ and ‘brought it all on itself’ might be setting agendas in your head mate.not in mine.The tie will be dealt with in a professional manner nearer the time,we have thistle on Saturday before that,no big scramble for tickets there eh!
hope your well:-)
HH
Wee Franco Baresi was an Italian John Clark.
Quonno-I got the impression,last years game v Sevco,was managed from on and off the park. HH
TRADITIONALIST88 on 7TH MARCH 2016 12:39 PM
As a Celtic supporter I will be a the semi-final, ticket offer notwithstanding. I was brought up to stand up to them and whether its old Rangers or new Rangers their morals are the same. They have been left in no doubt the Celtic supporters and every other Scottish football supporters view on their status. Going to a Celtic match against them is anything but an endorsement of the continuation myth.
Those who would have us cowering in fear from them and leave the Celtic end at Hampden empty, never mind the outrageous calls to head for the hills, maybe ought to reconsider what the term supporter actually means. We will need our support that day.
The support walking away or leaving Hampden empty would be playing into the hands of those out to hurt us.
Great post mate in a nutshell.
Find another way of hurting the SFA rather than withdrawing our support.
kikinthenakas-The Morton game wasn’t on the ST mate,if you are on the Home Ticket Scheme,your card would be activated and £15 taken from your account. HH
BadaBing
‘managed on and off the park’
i agree mate,they should have been beaten more than 2-0,the secondhalf ‘takiniteasy’ was probably ‘organised’ for a calm evening at our A&E depts.
HH
Difficult to keep track of RD’s incessant changes over the last three games in just nine days, from Hamilton away, to Dundee then Morton at home he’s changed five, five and four players for each game, and then made the maximum nine substitutions, in three starts.
Dizzy CSC
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BY PAUL67 ON 7TH MARCH 2016 CQN BLOG & COMMENTS
Well done to everyone for the win against Morton. After a difficult week it was good to get the result sorted out before halftime. Fixing poor form is seldom a straightforward business, but yesterday’s win was our sixth game in a month, with the loss of only one goal in that period.
The five games before this run didn’t produce a single clean sheet. Erik Sviatchenko started only the last of those five games (at Pittodrie), so while the sample size isn’t enough to draw clear conclusions, it’s an early indication the Dane has tightened things up at the back.
One thing Erik hasn’t been able to do is turn Celtic into a team which looks like it knows how to defend a corner kick. A Morton corner fell into the six-yard box to an attacker’s foot (never mind head). We’ve seen dozens of these horror-show set-pieces this season. They have cost us in the Champions League, Europa League, League Cup and in the Premiership. The Scottish Cup is the only tournament we’ve got away with it, so far.
You are I are beyond despairing at this point, let’s just get it sorted, Celtic.
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TIMHORTON on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:21 PM
giggsy 1:13
agree 100%
AN TEARMANN on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:21 PM
i enjoyed the game yesterday,thought Johansen and Mc Greggor made the midfield more compact,well done leigh,well done the team,i would like to see a little more pace in our defence. it was good yesterday that the only time you heard any hun exhalation was when collum ignored Johansens injury at half time
lets kick on
HH
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:23 PM
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 7TH MARCH 2016 1:40 PM
I see our old firm fans are getting the boot in first, making out it is their duty to support Celtic more against the new club than any other club.
The only people that will be at hampdump will be old firm supporters, glory hunters and self aclaimed uberfans.
The glory hunters and ignorant will fill the stadium anyone else is old firm and uber, it’s that simple.
Shit about standing shoulder to shoulder with the team is just that, shite.
The club needs to make a statement, those that consider themselves to be the club need to make this last chance to for a statement count. Else they buy into old firm.
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Absolute pish, O Wise One. Oracle and holder of the knowledge on all things relating to Celtic and supporting Celtic. You speak with such authority, such self belief but you’re still talking pure pish.
I’ll be there to support Celtic if I get a ticket and the game doesn’t clash with a more important family event. I’m not a glory hunter nor am I ignorant of the issues. I’m not even a self-proclaimed uberfan nor a believer in the OF.
I’ll be there to support Celtic simply because I would not abandon our players to a stadium that would be filled with 46 thousand currant buns screaming abuse at our team if all Celtic supporters were like you. It might well be a different turd but it is most definitely the same flies.
TRADITIONALIST88 on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:24 PM
Dharma Bam on 7th March 2016 2:13 pm
The identity, not the quality of the opposition is quite clearly the issue exercising most people on here.
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We’re talking about CP attendance. Muddying the waters because you misunderstood and reacted to a post is a tired tactic btw
LIONROARS67 on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:24 PM
TRADITIONALIST88 on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:21 PM
lionroars67 on 7th March 2016 2:03 pm
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Ask Gordon64 for one. Clearly you haven’t read back. Not sure what the motivation would be for making something like that up but believe what you like. Halfwit.
I’m asking you, your the poster making the allegation which you cant back up, as there is no post on CQN calling Celtic supporters to the hills
MOONBEAMSWD on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:27 PM
Traditionalist88
Two points.
One.
I have as I said since the turn of the year attended Celtic Par once. I have fully paid for 4 season books, 3 adult and 1 child. 3 of these 4 have been used once like me and the other zero times since the turn of the year.
These 4 books will be sent back to the club before the end of the season as we may wish to attend once or twice more before we totally give up. Personally I’m gone and doubt I’ll be back unless there is a sea change attitude from our board towards this bunch of crooks running and playing in our league.
I have attended on and off (mainly on determined by affordability) since 1982. I have spent thousands attending home and away albeit rarely away since 2001 since my son was born.
I am one of those folk who as you state have offered my club nothing.
I believe I have offered my club more financially in terms of affordability over the years than they have ever offered me. I have offered my club more emotionally than Peter Lawell or Dermott Desmond ever will even if they were to both live for a thousand years.
So real your neck in and stop offering up baseless comments and groundless opinions about supporters and fans who are just pig sick of being cheated and\or do not wish to attend re-formed mince Old firm games.
If you are happy to waste your money supporting something that will soon again be fixed, watch your team being cheated weekly and all the while supported in this by our PLC then fair play to you. that is your choice.
Two.
What have Celtic PLC to do with resolution 12 and if they are involved please let me know what it is they are doing? Otherwise leave it up to the non-Celtic directors to carry this forward without FEAR or FAVOUR and stop giving credit where it is not due!
MWD
ERNIE LYNCH on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:27 PM
ÁRD MACHA on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:20 PM
‘Is the answer to Rangers’ death and the football authorities’ unwillingness to address their cheating, to be so pissed off with the whole charade and for supporters to disengage to the level that our club effectively commits hari-kari.’
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The problem, for me at least, I don’t know about anyone else, isn’t the cheating, or the cover up, or the authorities’ involvement, it’s Celtic’s complicity in the whole thing.
It just calls into question what it is your actually supporting. It’s certainly not the Celtic that I thought I knew.
TONTINE TIM on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:29 PM
dessybhoy on 7th March 2016 11:36 am
You dont need to be big to be a good defender Cannavaro was small for a central defender but brave and committed
*So were Bertie Auld fan Franco Baresi and my first hero Bobby Evans.
MR PASTRY on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:30 PM
Until the HMRC appeal is decided everything is on hold.
When(not if) it is confirmed that the millions in EBT were in fact ‘under the counter’ wages and NOT “never to be repaid loans’, then the ‘gloves can come off’
A dismissed appeal will PROVE wrongdoing, not only in the evasion of lawful tax, but in the registration of players’ contracts.
Those who constantly criticize Celtic for not ‘speaking out’ should consider these facts….and then reconsider.
STARRY PLOUGH on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:33 PM
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
You will be sorely missed mate….
A mighty Hail Hail tae you and yours fae The Green Valley
Starry Plough
TRADITIONALIST88 on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:33 PM
Florida Bhoy on 7th March 2016 2:17 pm
Traditionalist88 @ 1.58
Sweeping generalization. Have you taken time to canvas those who will be staying away from the hunfest?
I assure you my family and I since a sizable sum into Celtic FC as a PLC every year.
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No, and thats my point…nobody has.
If those staying away and I’m primarily referring to those staying away from CP for the reason that they believe Celtic to be supporting the continuation myth actually took some worthwhile action, even something as small as going to talk to JPT, this may help allay fears.
Some are very very quick to ‘chuck it’ with no positive action taken, preferring to bump their gums on here day in, day out.
HH
MR PASTRY on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:34 PM
ERNIELYNCH@ 2:27
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How can a man of your inteligence honestly hold that view? See my post @ 2:30
SANDMAN on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:34 PM
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 7th March 2016 2:14 pm –
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Best flounce ever.
Do hope you appear in the future to agitate again – can’t have a CQN in complete harmony; what would be the point?
DESSYBHOY on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:35 PM
Mr Pastry
I await the judgement, a guy in the borders got 5yrs in the slammer for 500k that should have been paid to HMRC, the unpaid tax on these EBT’s is much more Millions in some cases and should carry a custodial sentence, if not why not?
ERNIE LYNCH on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:35 PM
MR PASTRY on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:30 PM
Until the HMRC appeal is decided everything is on hold.
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They’re a new club.
It doesn’t matter what happens in the hmrc case or in any of the other litigation, they’ll still be a new club.
So the ongoing court cases are no reason to delay confronting the lie that is the same club narrative.
TONTINE TIM on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:36 PM
Florida Bhoy on 7th March 2016 1:56 pm
I think Erik will prove to be our most effective and solid defender once he gets a further rest and a pre-season behind him. He has been thrown right into the thick of things in the middle of his last post season’s rest unfit, a few pounds over his match fit weight and probably even carrying a few long term knocks from the previous season. He has a crunching tackle, reads the game well, displays common sense and is comfortable on the ball. That will do me for now.
*sounds like a modern day John Clark who wisnae big either.
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:40 PM
Awe_Naw_No_A_Flouncer_Oan_Anaw_Noo
Keep in touch………. Dafty CSC
DESSYBHOY on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:42 PM
Tontine Tim
What struck me when I met Bertie and Joe McBride RIP at a supporters function was the shoulders they had on them ,built like tanks, and that when they were older men.
TRADITIONALIST88 on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:42 PM
lionroars67 on 7th March 2016 2:24 pm
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Ask Gordon64 for one. Clearly you haven’t read back. Not sure what the motivation would be for making something like that up but believe what you like. Halfwit.
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I’m asking you, your the poster making the allegation which you cant back up, as there is no post on CQN calling Celtic supporters to the hills
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I’m not making any allegation, no crime was committed. Quite what the motivation would be to fabricate such info is clearly a thought which may have occured to those with way too much time on their hands.
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 7TH MARCH 2016 2:44 PM
Theoriginalsadiesbhoy,
Obviously such an attack would be followed up with the, I’ll be there expected from an old firm die hard, enjoy yourself, make your statement by turning up, you are content to financially support the old firm and the SFA that is the long and short of it. Abusing me for making it very simple for you does not excuse your actions, it is billed as an old firm game and by turning up you are supporting the old firm? It is an SFA competition pay them.
Will you be buying a Celtic/sevco scarf as a memento of your support.
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Ha! Ha! Me abusing you! Your total lack of self awareness or awareness of your aggressive posting style is risible. You don’t even get it when people respond in kind. I laugh in your face.
Traditionalist1888
Id rather our club was run with football as the primary motivation but our PLC run the club with business ( profit) as the primary motivation. I appreciate there’s a complex relationship between these two things but I think we can evidence a distinct business primary motive.
I reluctantly accept this but here’s the rub…. The business model is failing. In business customers reject products they don’t like Or if they feel there is something unethical / distasteful about how it’s run . Alternatively the customer service is just notoriously poor characterised by poor communication or taking customers for granted.Sound familiar?
More than anything explains the empty seats at Celtic. So a new business model required..one with a better product, with a more transparent communication strategy that values customers and in fact puts customers at the heart of what the business is trying to do…
As I say I’d much rather we were a football club first and foremost..but our Board think otherwise.
Er sorry about that very lengthy post. I’m in a car wash and on an iPhone. I tittered at someone who did the same on Saturday too :-)) Was it Eddie in K?
Sorry!
Any thoughts on the state of our pitch?
Any news on johansen?
Kikinthenakas
Quonno
I clearly said ‘ for me it’s an acid test of Lawwell’s stewardship…’
I’ll form my views – you form yours. That’s generally how I live my life. I form my views and let others think for themselves.
If it’s not an acid test for you that’s ok….
Nakas
The pitch has had a very bad winter, and I noticed yesterday how poor it was compared with previous years.
Kickinthenakas
The pitch looks awful at the moment!
Burgas Hoops on 7th March 2016 3:21 pm
Find another way of hurting the SFA rather than withdrawing our support
I’m not calling for a boycott or telling supporters who do not share my view to not go to the S/F, to thine own self be true, the fans who attend regular to watch the team they love and will go to hampdump solely as Celtic fans to support their team i get it, however glory hunting old firm fans……………… if you get ripped off on E bay or charged ridiculous corporate prices…………gies peace
Tell us how we hurt a private members association ran for the benefit of one member, give us another creditable alternative
This is a direct quote from PR spokesperson of the SFA, the quote speaks for itself as the only action the SFA will take notice of
http://www.sfm.scot/john-clark-meets-the-sfa/comment-page-14/
Mr Broadfoot opined that the future would show whether Scottish Football supporters were really concerned about the old club/new club debate, if huge numbers turned their backs on the game.
Hamilton
Old or new they are an obstacle that needs to be cleared to ensure we win the double…that’s big enough in itself.
Old or new they are the team I will always want Celtic to beat the most. Mostly because their fans will always hate me, you and anything Celtic.
Traditionalist 88,
We weren’t talking about attendance at Celtic Park and you know it.
Calling out others for muddying the waters is a good tactic to draw attention away from your actions.
Offense is the best form of defense, indeed.
You’re good at it.
“It would be great to see our supporters once again being able to wear kit at games while being certain that their purchases will benefit the Club and the team.”
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Don’t forget the holding company…….
Regarding the pitch…
I don’t think it is playing as bad as it looks.
Imo, it looked far worse last season v the dons in the 4-zip game than it did yesterday.
HH
Dharma Bam on 7th March 2016 3:39 pm
That was the part of my post you reacted to(straw man, Barcelona etc) – the part where I said if we were playing Barcelona or Real yesterday the place would have been packed, therefore are the empty seats due to principle or the identity of the opposition?
I was just really putting it out there that there may be some selective principles at play with some people but you have really misunderstood in a big way.
Its just funny that you’re still going with it.
Burgas Hoops on 7th March 2016 3:21 pm
HH buddy
My Monet is on Celtic to pump sevco.
HH!!
Cults
There are supporters of several other clubs who’d lay claim to hating us more than them.
We’re playing a team we’ve only played once before, they stand in our way of a cup final, that should be a good enough reason to want to beat them.
Traditionalist1888
I refer to my previous post re quality of product. If Real or Barca were there at least the product offered would include 1 decent team… Hence Id expect bigger attendance.
As a season ticket holder since 1980 I will not be at Hampden,I will get offered a ticket due to the number of games I go to,nearer the time I’ll either leave the seat empty or sell it to an old firm fan for 3 times the face value.
FTSFA
CultsBhoy
Agreed but we started seeing empty seats in 2008, a whole range of factors at play.
It should also be pointed out that in the scheme of things when AC Milan often struggle to hit 30k our attendances remain pretty decent.
Going forward is obviously the concern and the downward trend must be arrested. I believe it will be.
HH
lionroars67
Tell us how we hurt a private members association ran for the benefit of one member, give us another creditable alternative.
I dont think it can be hurt lionroars67. I wish i had an answer -)))
But i firmly believe an empty Celtic end does nothing for our players on the day of the game.
As logical Celtic Supporters have said they go to support Celtic regardless of the opposition, just a pity we have to play the huns.
ERNIELYNCH @ 2;35
It doesn’t matter what happens in the hmrc case or in any of the other litigation, they’ll still be a new club.
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Ernie and friends of a similar persuasion – will a statement by the officials of Celtic FC to the effect that ‘Rangers’ is a new club, result in them saying “OK it’s a fair cop, we are a new club”? No of course not, so why say it at this juncture and risk being drawn into the fiasco?
Almost certainly Celtic will be in receipt of the very best legal advice on all the matters which have affected the club since the Ibrox shenanigans began – so let’s look at things logically, not emotionally.
1) When the appeal against the EBT tax evasion is dismissed, it then follows that Rangers(1872) lied and misled the Scottish Football Authorities over players’ registration and contracts.
2) When the appeal against the EBT tax evasion is dismissed, it then follows that Rangers(1872) used an illegal scheme to evade legal taxes due to HMRC.
This will force a decision to be made as to who is liable – is it Rangers (1872/89), or is it TRIFC (2012)?
We already know that HMRC have made up their mind that it is the old incorporated club with their old Scottish Company Number, who are in the hands of the liquidator, who are liable – that’s why the liquidators have appealed.
As far as the Scottish Football authorities are concerned, they would then have a decision to make. Contravention of the rules concerning players’ registrations and the granting of a European licence would need to be addressed.
A) If they hold that these were deeds of the old liquidated club and not the present incarnation, then they will decide that no penalties and sanctions are liable on the new club as they were not in existence at that time – ergo TIRC are a newly registered Scottish club.
B) If, on the other hand, they hold that the current club IS the same club that committed these serious offences, then penalties and sanctions must be imposed as per their rules at the time of the offence.
C) If it is (B), the door then opens for UEFA and FIFA to ratify the decision of their member association, i.e. SPFL
So you see the HMRC case is critical to the ‘same club’ argument and all future action and pronouncements will flow from that decision.
We also know that with the upcoming court cases – the validity of the new club and its incorporation is itself under doubt and scrutiny.
Those associated with Ibrox may regret their ‘same club’ stance and end up being ‘hoisted on their own petard’
Let’s wait and see and stop blaming Celtic for not jumping into then cesspool with them.
CultsBhoy can not relate to Celtic Board ambitions on or off the park on 7th March 2016 3:52 pm –
Exactly. So it follows that those telling us there are empty seats at CP primarily because of Celtic supporting the continuation myth are pretty wide of the mark.
There are a whole host of factors at play.
TIMMY7_NOTED on 7TH MARCH 2016 3:52 PM
As a season ticket holder since 1980 I will not be at Hampden,I will get offered a ticket due to the number of games I go to,nearer the time I’ll either leave the seat empty or sell it to an old firm fan for 3 times the face value
Im in the home cup ticket scheme, if offered a ticket for the S/F i will first offer that ticket at face value to some good CQN’s who i know attend faithfully…………….as for glory hunters, i agree charge what you can get with charity getting the benefit of any profits
FTSFA
HAMILTONTIM on 7TH MARCH 2016 3:38 PM
Kickinthenakas
The pitch looks awful at the moment!
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Speaking to someone at the game who know the ground staff.
Apparently the pitch is poor as a result of the type of turf used,you will recall we had a re-lay as part of the Commonwealth games agreement and the turf is neither strong nor hard wearing.
My friends in Celtic,
Two very quick points.
1) some of the same posters who reckon booing is detremental to confidence thus actually harming the team are happy to see large gaps at the Celtic stands at Hampdump whilethe huns are belting out their full grotesque repertore. No contradiction there.
2) don’t know about heading for the hills, but at least that would be the ethical thing to do. To castigate fellow fans for supporting their team, then watch the game on TV is hypocritical imo.
HH.
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on 7th March 2016 3:29 pm Yeah that was me :(
TRADITIONALIST88 on 7TH MARCH 2016 3:53 PM
CultsBhoy
Agreed but we started seeing empty seats in 2008, a whole range of factors at play.
It should also be pointed out that in the scheme of things when AC Milan often struggle to hit 30k our attendances remain pretty decent.
Going forward is obviously the concern and the downward trend must be arrested. I believe it will be.
HH
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There will always be empty seats at Celtic Park, save for a few games per season – simple economics – our supply (The Stadium) exceeds demand (Paying Supporters),
Like Milan and Juventus, our stadium should have a capacity of around 45/48k, if the current season ticket sales hold up – there are only TEN 60,000 designated football stadiums in Europe – that means 444 UEFA registered clubs see no need for one.
Sanity v Vanity (and puerile bragging rights over Sevco) – this does not make good business sense going forward in a rich and getting richer football world that is leaving us behind.
Id rather our club was run with football as the primary motivation but our PLC run the club with business ( profit) as the primary motivation. I appreciate there’s a complex relationship between these two things but I think we can evidence a distinct business primary motive.
## we are run as a football club, constructed and reconstructed we make footballers.your assumption that we exist solely to make profit is incorrect,It is complex the relationship,not as complex as you make out tho,all monies from whatever source go into making our club better,we spend what we bring in,we are one club-your assumption that each side harms the other is wrong,the business/football relationship is synergistic##
I reluctantly accept this but here’s the rub…. The business model is failing. In business customers reject products they don’t like Or if they feel there is something unethical / distasteful about how it’s run . Alternatively the customer service is just notoriously poor characterised by poor communication or taking customers for granted.Sound familiar?
#sounds like your believing your own posts mate while gubbing the latest mcgraw hill,mention all the old popular ones ,poor CS,communication etc. but no explanation as to why a SC semi gets your goat up!#
More than anything explains the empty seats at Celtic. So a new business model required..one with a better product, with a more transparent communication strategy that values customers and in fact puts customers at the heart of what the business is trying to do…
#well you explain why a game against cheats is a must see ticket?The answers to your relationship with Celtic are within you,get behind the team and stop being a preoffended customer who wants a fraudfirm ticket#
As I say I’d much rather we were a football club first and foremost..but our Board think otherwise.
Old Firm Fever boiling up already.
Some even ‘jetting in ‘ for the Scoddish FArce Cup semi-final.
Why go to all that trouble and expense when all you have to do is walk through the looking glass?
Mr. Pastry.
Repeating your point about Celtic’s ‘inability’ to speak out until after leave to appeal is granted, or not, regarding Rangers’ use of EBTs doesn’t make it any more correct the following day.
Nothing to do with them being in liquidation or their improper registration of players which went on for years.
You also said something along the lines of having to remember that once something is written down or spoken in public it can’t be taken back.
Really?
You should check the SMSM newspaper front pages from June 12th, 2012.
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on 7th March 2016 3:29 pm…..
War and Peace vol II :-)
Eddieinkirkmichael
Did you sort you and DD for tickets for Firhill?