ECA, Interpol, another day at the office for Scottish football

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Pleased to see the Club recognised for CelticLive, the stadium WiFi and content imitative by the European Club Association.  Anything which builds our profile at the ECA is welcome.

Today’s Telegraph assures us Newco Rangers chief executive, Graham Wallace, is set to  leave the club with his plans to raise £4m at a pending share issue still in the balance.  The newspaper further asserts the club is a “toxic brand” and is trying to secure an emergency loan from Newcastle United owner, Mike Ashley.

The club, which informed the Court of Session on Friday that it had only £1.2m cash left, and last night informed the Telegraph it was losing £1m per month, requires vastly more money than the £4m they are struggling to raise in order to finish the season.

Some credit is due to the Daily Record for their splash with photo and leader, “Rangers director Sandy Easdale and a criminal wanted by Interpol tried to negotiate an Ibrox bailout yesterday”.  They are reporting two years after Paul McConville’s blog initially broke the news of said Interpol-interested character, Rafat Rizvi.

Rizvi, who can take refuge in the UK as we don’t have an extradition treaty with Indonesia, is allegedly wanted for corruption, money laundering and banking crime, denies the charges, which he has already been convicted of.  He should fit in quite well.

As we said at the weekend, irrespective of short-term events, the long-term fundamentals remain unchanged.  The only thing to be decided is which of the characters hovering around the carcase will get to pick on the bones.

All credit to Sir David Murray.

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  1. “Will visas be required to follow Celtic to away games or even if you just want to take a family holiday?”

     

     

     

    Elbhoy

     

     

    Brazilians don’t need a visa for 26 European countries. Ergo I don’t think we’d require one.

     

     

    Could be wrong though.

  2. ernie lynch

     

    13:07 on

     

    10 September, 2014

     

     

    Actually Ernie, since you’re going all semantic on us both can be true depending in the context of their use.

     

     

    Speaking to a group of pensioners “once in a lifetime”

     

    Speaking to a group of teenagers “once in a generation”

     

     

    Given your generational timespan of 25 years both could be used and be truthful in the context of the speech.

     

     

    Now they may not have been in those contexts but I point out that they’re not mutually exclusive only for the purposes of the debate.

  3. Barclays, Deutsche Bank, Societe Generale, JP Morgan, RBC Capital Markets and Credit Suisse have all said that a yes vote could have dire consequences for the economy putting the recovery at risk.

     

     

    The Financial Times reports that asset managers, investors and pension savers are moving billions of pounds out of Scotland over fears of the economic consequences of independence. Multrees Investor Services, which manages bank accounts for the wealth management industry, said it had moved hundreds of milions of pounds of behalf of wealth managers following concerns over the referendum.

     

     

     

    Don’t worry they’re all lying…. aren’t they?

  4. Ernie,

     

    Sorry but not sure as to why you ain’t answering my question, it’s not a trick one and I am not trying to catch you out or anything, with regards to the vote I am still an undecided

  5. gordybhoy64

     

    12:58 on

     

    10 September, 2014

     

    Ernie,

     

    Do you do any active campaigning like knocking doors or in the streets to help the no campaign, appears to me that no one has changed their view based on anything that is posted on here

     

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    How do you know that?

     

     

    Many folk are not having their questions answered by the YES side.

     

     

    Bank of England controls the pound, will dictate interest rates, set mortgage rates etc etc. even IF the pound is shared………..Independent country? Really?

     

     

    Scotland out of the EU if it votes YES, probably our biggest market lost at a stroke. Even if they allow us back in it will be UNDER NEW TERMS, it will take 5-6 years.

     

     

    What happens to Scots who have pensions?

     

     

    I have not heard of a single firm/company/industry who said THAT’S a great idea, we’ll move north.

     

     

    Of course, this is scaremongering, right????

     

     

    Actually, these are fundimental questions that are not being answered.

  6. Frank Ryan's Whiskey on

    Kilbowie Kelt will vote YES

     

     

     

    12:13 on 10 September, 2014

     

     

     

    Repost……

     

     

     

    They seem not to realise that has been SCOTS who have dominated their military, their politics, their commerce, their engineering,.. indeed every facet of their greedy Empire for over 300 years.

     

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    Not theirs YOUR greedy Empire; the Britsh Empire was a joint venture.Kindly stop trying to rewrite history. Scotlland wants a divorce to follow its own path now the Evil Empire is at an end, fair enough but less of the revisionism please.

  7. Kitalba,

     

     

    Of course they are not lying.

     

     

    A yes vote could have dire consequences.

     

     

    Just like you could be the best looking guy on this blog.

  8. “Have you not got a nappy to change?!”

     

     

    Tallybhoy,

     

     

    Whoda thunk Ernie wasn’t potty trained!? ;)

     

     

    Everydaysaschoolday csc

  9. Paul67 – Some credit is due to the Daily Record for their splash with photo and leader, “Rangers director Sandy Easdale and a criminal wanted by Interpol tried to negotiate an Ibrox bailout yesterday”.

     

     

    Gangsters. Fraudsters. International fugitives… Craig Whyte is starting to look like a saint compared with the colourful characters hovering over DeadCo these days.

     

     

    Excellent. (thumbsup)

     

     

    davidopoulos – I just couldn’t resist. (thumbsup)

     

     

    Doc – thank you :) (thumbsup)

     

     

    lymmbhoy – thanks! I had the Eye of the Tiger theme tune in my head. (thumbsup)

     

     

    rrc – Thank you, it’s been a while indeed but philvis returns. (thumbsup)

     

     

    kilbowie kelt – thanks to the many excellent CQNers who have been keeping the podium warm for me. (thumbsup)

     

     

    hrvatski jim – lots of people with (thumbsup) syndrome live normal, amazingly brilliant lives. Like Chuck Norris, and hitchhikers. (thumbsup)

     

     

    dontbrattbakkinanger – thanks! And, tell me about it!

     

     

    Alastair Darling is a nice guy. That is why he’s failing. Putting him up against a street fighter like Salmond is like the 1996 match between Frank Bruno and Mike Tyson. John Reid should have been running the campaign. (thumbsup)

     

     

    geordie munro – I am the one and only. Nobody I’d rather be. (thumbsup)

     

     

    art of war – Thanks! Mr Cameron is not welcome at my candlelight soirees or kitchen suppers. (thumbsup)

     

     

    ginger – didn’t know I still had it in me. :) (thumbsup)

     

     

    sipsini – thank you, kind sir. (thumbsup)

  10. Ellboy – I am Neil Lennon, YNWA.

     

     

    13:04 on 10 September, 2014

     

     

    ‘If we have a currency union with Independence and that’s a big IF. Then how Independent will that really make us? Am I right in saying that The Bank of England will still set interest rates etc etc?’

     

     

     

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    The Bank of England would decide interest rates and dictate monetary policy, level of public spending etc.

     

     

    We’d be as free as independent as a dog on a choke lead.

  11. Frank Ryan’s Whiskey

     

     

     

    13:16 on 10 September, 2014

     

     

     

    Kilbowie Kelt will vote YES

     

     

    12:13 on 10 September, 2014

     

     

    Repost……

     

     

    They seem not to realise that has been SCOTS who have dominated their military, their politics, their commerce, their engineering,.. indeed every facet of their greedy Empire for over 300 years.

     

    =====

     

    Not theirs YOUR greedy Empire; the Britsh Empire was a joint venture.Kindly stop trying to rewrite history. Scotlland wants a divorce to follow its own path now the Evil Empire is at an end, fair enough but less of the revisionism please.

     

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    GPWM

  12. Bateman,

     

    I never said I knew anything, I said it appears to me, can you show me one poster that has had a change of mind based on what they read on here, I asked the same question yesterday to people from both sides and never got an answer, just seems to me people would have more success in changing people’s minds if they were actively campaigning and not sitting on a blog, as I stayed earlier I am still undecided

  13. Ernie,

     

     

    The article on Standard Life you posted is over a month old. Where did you find it?

     

     

    Meanwhile, the article doesn’t explain how Standard Life move 5000 jobs to England. Those jobs have always been in Edinburgh. If they leave it will not be to England – to move those roles to the only location with the people available would result in a 2-3 fold increase in cost. India is more likely for the majority of those jobs. Also, not convinced their many partners in the industry share their views or would appreciate the choice of increased cost in their relationship or a sharp decline in standard.

     

    I’m not sure what Standard Life’s problem is, but, it doesn’t sound like the kind of measured thinking you’d be looking for from your pension provider. Sounds a lot like they’re prepared to throw a lot of money away in a petulant gesture that cannot be shown to have any benefit at this stage.

     

     

    If they want to move jobs to India then they should just say so. Usual unpleasant nonsense from the financial sector.

     

     

    I’ve barely a horse in this race, but, it seems like the ‘no’ campaign are single-handedly going to win this for the ‘yes’ camp just through the sheer volume of daft attempts to scare. The ‘no’ campaign has barely registered one positive thought in the last two years. The whole thing is insane and we’re about to vote despite having let people like Ernie dominate the debate… I actually feel a little sad about it.

     

     

    Ernie, don’t hesitate to lash out in reply, or worse, try to justify the choice you made in posting that article.

  14. Kilbowie Kelt will vote YES on

    Frank Ryan’s Whiskey

     

     

    13:16 on 10 September, 2014

     

    ________________

     

     

    No revisionism from me, Frank.

     

     

    I am 100% IRISH.

  15. apricale – thanks! Can we not have a songs debate though? (thumbsup)

     

     

    starry plough – like a bad penny :)(thumbsup)

     

     

    tallybhoy – Have you not got a nappy to change?!

     

     

    Thankfully he’s ok now, but for a few months there he had colic. I’d go home from work, be met at the door by a frazzled-looking Mrs. P, and have a bawling infant thrust into my arms with the exhortation “here, take care of your son!”

     

     

    Happy days. :) (thumbsup)

  16. Investment in Sevco is as useless as a chocolate teapot.

     

     

    Oh, wait……

     

     

    #comingoutwithafushintheirmouth

  17. Davidopoulos

     

     

     

    13:22 on 10 September, 2014

     

     

     

    NatKnow

     

     

    GPWM

     

     

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    Global Partnership on Waste Management? Hmm, never thought of it like that before. Well played.

     

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    Oh you know what I meant! :-)

  18. eddieinkirkmichael on

    That fact that those most vehemently against the Yes vote and really experienced any of the debates on a daily basis in work places, pubs, homes ect just really shows that their views aren’t informed or worth listening to compared to those who have experienced this first hand.

     

     

    This whole debate has been wonderfully liberating for those who have truly engaged with it on a daily basis.

     

     

    As someone who was sceptical about the Independence issue to begin with, I have found this period of debate astonishing. I know women who have never voted yet they have become keen yes supporters and have been at the forefront of the campaign giving out leaflets, knocking doors and generally leading from the front.

     

     

    It’s a Yes from me.

  19. It’s fascinating that the naysayers on CQN insist on ignoring the fact that there is a huge swell of support for Yes that has nothing to do with nationalism or the SNP. It truly is about social justice and taking control over our own destiny. Many of our friends in England recognise this and some of the best articles about the campaign have indeed come from English newspapers. They are hopeful that what happens in Scotland will open up England to similar movements where people campaign for a better society and don’t follow the current political parties unthinkingly. I hope that too and should there be a Yes vote I will most certainly see England as a neighbour with who I’d be happy to be friends with.

     

     

    I’m assuming the insistence of the No campaign that you must refer to Yes supporters as nats or even racists and make out they don’t like the English stems from some edict from central HQ. It really is a poor show though and at a time when something so important is being decided, to base an argument on lies and inuendo is kind of sad. #hopenotfear

  20. NatKnow

     

    13:24 on

     

    10 September, 2014

     

     

    Basically that’s stating we’ll set up an English registered company, if we have to. It’s not even close to suggesting the whole company will relocate.

  21. Bontybhoy – The ‘no’ campaign has barely registered one positive thought in the last two years.

     

     

    This is true, but… they’re the No campaign. By definition, asking people to vote no is negative.

     

     

    If we had a referendum on whether everybody should get a free hoverboard like the ones in Back To The Future 2, the people pointing out that those things would be unsafe, expensive, and improbable due to the laws of physics, would be called negative by the folks wanting free hoverboards. (thumbsup)

  22. You walked right into that one frank Ryans.

     

     

     

    And a further bit of information. Kk was out of short trousers round about the time the empire was created;)

     

     

    Methuselasolderbruv csc

  23. BontyBhoy

     

     

    13:22 on 10 September, 2014

     

     

    ‘Ernie,

     

     

    The article on Standard Life you posted is over a month old. Where did you find it?’

     

     

     

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    Well spotted.

     

     

    I’d like to claim I set a trap for you to blunder into, but I’d be lying ‘in terms of the debate’.

     

     

    I quoted the wrong article.

     

     

    It does however highlight today’s news from Standard Life.

     

     

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    Standard Life’s chief executive, David Nish, has written to the Scottish money manager’s customers explaining how it will protect their interests in the event of Scots voting for independence.

     

     

    He says that it could transfer pensions, investments and other long-term savings held by UK customers to new regulated companies set up in England.

     

     

    The aim would be to ensure that all transactions with customers outside of Scotland could continue to be in sterling, that the Westminster tax regime would apply to them, and that they would be subject to regulation and protection by City regulators and the Financial Services Compensation Scheme.

     

     

    It will also say that it will consider what further steps may be necessary to serve Scottish customers, once it becomes clear how the Scottish economy will be managed as an independent state.

     

     

    I am told this is a precautionary statement by Standard Life, and that it has not seen a surge in withdrawals of funds or inquiries since opinion polls showed a growing prospect of Scots’ voting for separation from the rest of the UK.

     

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29142436

  24. b2k

     

     

    13:28 on 10 September, 2014

     

     

    ‘there is a huge swell of support for Yes that has nothing to do with nationalism or the SNP. It truly is about social justice and taking control over our own destiny.’

     

     

     

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    And currency union would kill both those aspiration stone dead.

  25. weeminger

     

     

     

    13:28 on 10 September, 2014

     

     

     

    NatKnow

     

    13:24 on

     

    10 September, 2014

     

     

    Basically that’s stating we’ll set up an English registered company, if we have to. It’s not even close to suggesting the whole company will relocate.

     

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    Correct. It’s also not the lack of “measured thinking” or moving jobs to India Bontybhoy has just suggested. All perfectly rational stuff. Also includes a statement about Devo Max – which could also have an effect on them as a business.

     

     

    Businesses will do what is right for their shareholders and other stakeholder – I don;t think they really give a fig about politics.

  26. Is there any truth in the rumour that in the event of a YES vote, RIFC 2012 will seek leave to relocate to England?

     

    A spokesman for RIFC cited the financial uncertainty which would follow as a result of the recklessness of freedom seeking Scots.

  27. Ellboy - I am Neil Lennon, YNWA. on

    geordie munro

     

     

    Thanks for the reply.

     

     

    I suppose it’s a question that will be clarified, just as so many far more important ones will also be after the vote. Kind of a scary thought!

     

     

    Ernie

     

     

    I never agree with you on anything but on this you are bang on.

     

     

    This is far to important to get wrong and simply insane to think this referendum could be decided on emotion.

     

     

    People need to think with their heads and not with their hearts on this, there are just too many unknowns to vote yes at this time. Perhaps in the future things will be more clear, especially with the transfer of more powers. Basically we’re being given the opportunity to try before we buy & I think we’d be silly not to except that offer.

     

     

    Voting Yes means going into this blindly while voting No gives us the benefit of buyers remorse.

     

     

    No brainer for me. Vote No for now!

  28. Ernie @1330

     

     

    Thank goodness. The article you quoted said “ahead of Tuesdays darling and eck debate”

     

     

    Not sure I’m ready for another shouty shouty match ;)

  29. ‘GG

     

     

    13:35 on 10 September, 2014

     

     

    ‘Is there any truth in the rumour that in the event of a YES vote, RIFC 2012 will seek leave to relocate to England?’

     

     

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    There’s a rumour they’ll be given state aid as a division healing measure in the event of a yes vote.

     

     

    I know, because I started it.

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