Pleased to see the Club recognised for CelticLive, the stadium WiFi and content imitative by the European Club Association. Anything which builds our profile at the ECA is welcome.
Today’s Telegraph assures us Newco Rangers chief executive, Graham Wallace, is set to leave the club with his plans to raise £4m at a pending share issue still in the balance. The newspaper further asserts the club is a “toxic brand” and is trying to secure an emergency loan from Newcastle United owner, Mike Ashley.
The club, which informed the Court of Session on Friday that it had only £1.2m cash left, and last night informed the Telegraph it was losing £1m per month, requires vastly more money than the £4m they are struggling to raise in order to finish the season.
Some credit is due to the Daily Record for their splash with photo and leader, “Rangers director Sandy Easdale and a criminal wanted by Interpol tried to negotiate an Ibrox bailout yesterday”. They are reporting two years after Paul McConville’s blog initially broke the news of said Interpol-interested character, Rafat Rizvi.
Rizvi, who can take refuge in the UK as we don’t have an extradition treaty with Indonesia, is allegedly wanted for corruption, money laundering and banking crime, denies the charges, which he has already been convicted of. He should fit in quite well.
As we said at the weekend, irrespective of short-term events, the long-term fundamentals remain unchanged. The only thing to be decided is which of the characters hovering around the carcase will get to pick on the bones.
All credit to Sir David Murray.
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Bawsman,
A genuine “don’t know” from me.
Others may be better qualified on this than myself,but Way too early to say imo.
On my original point (and thanks for your reply) You may well be correct re.Milliband depending on how much UKIP eat into others’ votes.
There are clear concerns and uncertainties around the prospect of an independent Scotland,but the notion that the people of Scotland would choose to be ruled by Johnson( or any other from the Bullingdon club),Farage or Milliband beggars belief.
Bawsman
Im really worried at the sophistication of your views…ha
Chase yourself you halfwit
SydneyTim – I agree with you regarding the attitude the English have however the mistake you are making is they will be appeased by removing powers from Scotland. I think, considering the way the Welsh are feeling and how NI is, we are far far more likely to see the UK moving towards federalism if there is a No vote. Giving the English more power over their own affairs by removing the influences of Scotland, Wales and NI on purely English matters. Which in my mind is only fair.
That seems like the natural path that will be taken as opposed to the evil WM MPs ripping powers away.
In listening to the judge summing up in the Oscar Pistorius case I have a feeling she is heading towards acquittal. Hope I’m wrong.
Mcjay
I cant wait to see them playing the orange card…bring it on
HH
lionroars@5.51
“To vote despite being told you are going to lose your job on the 19th September as all major financial institutions are going to flee to London(they were/are going already) is IMO a brave political decision
To be derided about losing your job and then berated because someone else will pick up that brave individuals unemployment tab was the post of a political coward”
Have to say I did not read the post like that. Derided? Berated?
Anyways, If I missed those pejorative attacks, the basic point still stands.
The self-praise of bravery can be turned on its head:-
“If you vote NO despite being told there will be a hundred year reich rule by Boris Johnson & The Ukips after 19th September and you will have denied yourself (and others) the opportunity to live in an oil-rich land of wall-to-wall welfare and concern for others, funded by billions of new oil fields is IMO an act of extreme self denial (thus brave) in order to share that bounty with the poor impoverished English & Welsh.”
Of course, both sides think they are right, but no side is more brave, handsome or courteous than the other.
I saw a clip yesterday of John Prescott doing a walkabout for the No vote and having an old fella contort his face and shout at him that he was “just as bad as the Duke of Cumberland”. It was both funny and frightening. But I will not be disingenuous and say that the old fella was the face of the Yes campaign because I am sure that examples can be found of No voters behaving badly. I doubt that many on the Yes side will show the same ability to discriminate between the “rabids” and the true face of the No campaign when the OO go on a walk in Embra.
We need to keep this real. We are just putting a vote in a box. The true brave people were those who fought to afford us that right, and a “Free” Scotland was the last thing on the mind of those brave people.
Ernie. It was indeed strange that the SNP got a large % of the vote for the Scottish parliament but failed dramatically at the general election
Once again it will be interesting if it is a no vote , will the SNP stand for independence in its manifesto for the 2015 general election 5 years ago less than 25% wanted independence in Scotland going by polls. Now at least 40%. Big jump
If it is a no vote , I don’t think it’s over
Rouge leader. It will all come down how the English voters feel about it, going by reports they are shifting to a proud English outlook , They will make the final decision
People like the clear anti scottish politician , boris , will be the darling of the London media
quantum
10:55 on
11 September, 2014
Who would have any confidence in S.A. law?
The verdict will be political and will have been determined before the show trial.
weeminger
10:30 on 11 September, 2014
NatKnow
10:27 on
11 September, 2014
Agreed but even if say RBS had the will to move it’s entire IT function from the Gyle it would take years of planning never mind the actual move.
Some folk seem to think that moving IT jobs is just plonking the programmers in front of a different machine.
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When they bought NatWest, RBS integrated all IT and cut the number of Data Centres from 7 to much less (2?) within about 18 months. That is the complicated bit because you need to plan the comms and support ect. and it involves other big suppliers (BT, IBM etc.). Moving programming jobs is pretty straightforward because it’s easy to access systems remotely these days. Many of those kinds of jobs were outsourced some years ago – a lot happens offshore. The offices at Gyle and Gogarburn were a combination of Finance, Business Change and Operations last time I was there. It’s those kinds of jobs I’m thinking about – decision-makers are important because they determine what happens where. While they are based in Scotland, that will factor into their planning. I.e. why would they move operations to somewhere else since it would only jepordise their own positions.
SydneyTim,
I don’t see the split in the UK as Scotland/ England. It is more London & SE/ the rest.
The reaction of many to a No vote and the expansion of the parliament, in Wales as well as the midlands and north of England, won’t be to reject extra powers for Scotland. It will be to demand the transfer of powers from London to their area. We would see a very different UK emerging.
Wonder how many no voters will be following the orange walk eh
The descent to sectarianism as government policy…beyond contempt
Hand in hand with masons and orangemen..ha, go right ahead
Now we see the real face of unionism.
HH
Gordon. Remember the whole of the uk voted against thatcher , apart from the south east
The south east of little englanders make the decisions for the UK unfortunately
And after the 18th of this month unfortunately will continue to do so
Bawsman, you’re asking me question s about why others didn’t do something in our present state of affairs, I can’t answer why they didn’t raise taxes! The utopia you speak of is not what I believe is realistic, very few if any places in the world would be considered a utopia, however, if we get full control of our future I know we can do better than what we have currently!
I don’t want to harp on about oil, as its been done to death, but Google ‘dude where is my oil money’ Norway, very recently, has banked 1million krohna for each of its citizens through prudent investment of oil & gas revenues, we have nothing to show for our efforts over the same period? Add on top we generate 25% of the total European wind & tidal power, whisky revenue, tourism, etc and we have more than enough revenue for a population of circa 5million!
The currencey debate, to me at least, is a non issue! Pre 76, gold determined currency value, after Nixon screwed the rest of the world, the worked bank controls it (simplistic I know, various factors come into play) but I certainly don’t think a Scottish pound is beyond the realms of reality, especially given a transitional period to move away from the bank of England controlled pound sterling!
again, this is an opportunity, not a negative!
If you want my honest answer to who I would have as prime minister, I’d go for anyone who fits this criteria, in no particular order:
Brought up in a working class family
Educated
Fair and just
Progressive ideology
Accountable
Passionate about his/her fellow man
No ties to corporate banking (infact banks of any kind)
Proud to be Scottish
And of course a good Tim :-) (thems just jokes baby)
Who leads is not my main concern, what & who the lead, and more importantly where they are taking the country is the crux of it!
I know there are reasons to stay part of the UK however, the reason to leave far out weigh them imo
HH John
Unlike some I’ve quite enjoyed reading the referendum nonsense on here, much of it quite amusing.
On the RBS etc thing my question would be why now? Why the need to announce the contingency plan now. A week before you find out for sure what’s happening?
Sort it out next Friday rather than having a big high heidyin meeting and then no doubt dispatching some minions to draw up said contingency plan, spending hours doing it. Just wait until the 19 September and sort it then.There’s loads of time after that surely.
Maybe there’s a good reason.
Anyway according to philvis if it’s a yes vote I can ride to work on my solid gold pony or even better a back to the future hoverboard but I’ll make a contingency for a no and have a look at the train times.
Philvis,
I’m not claiming expats don’t care. I also think there are some very vocal expats yessers on here.
But what I do find funny is the guys who moved out ‘cos Scotland was gash’ now saying ‘please don’t change’
Almost as funny as a yes voter planning to move should a yes win occur.
Anyways….cheers for the reasoned response (drinksup)
MWD@ 7.21
“But being an intelligent man you know these bendy bananas HAVE already broken Purdah electoral rules.
It’s just that they have now got to appease 2 populations with differing wants in 2 countries or at least the majority of 2 countries.
It’s a hard battle that.”
If that was true, I am sure that Alex would have exploited it for all it was worth and the case would have been fast-tracked through an Embra Court of his choice, or the Electoral Commission, who have made speedy decisions on rule breaks before.
However, if all those establishments, are run by English Basturts, then the decision will have been taken to have your cake and eat it- Alex will have decided that We’ll just make the allegation but not prove it and let it have whatever damaging propaganda/spin effect it can have- you know? The Brave Way.
As I said yesterday, If “English/Brit” politicians take an interest in the referendum they are interfering/ arrogant/ breaking the rules/ after our oil and votes/ and/or panicking.
If they say nothing and do not come they are feart/ uninterested in us/ only interested in our oil/ and/or panicking they will have an adverse effect on “their” campaign.
It is closed thinking. It relied upon the premise that they are serving two countries. Well not yet, they are not, unless the two you meant were England & Wales, or have we just forgotten Wales in all this?
the banking sector will use an independence vote to shed thousands of jobs, the rest is a forerunner to it.
RBS head office is in London. Costs of Independence for RBS: 1 x Brass Plate, Engraving & 4 screws = £13.14
Ernie & ST,
If every eligible voter voted SNP in the last GE would eck be prime minister?
philvisreturns
10:52 on
11 September, 2014
After all the “Salve, magisters” you have received,you must be bursting with an outrageous sense of self worth.
Hail Hail fellow,well met.
I suspected some time ago that the religion card would be played in the independence debates , divide and conquer has always been the way to win the day with regards to these kind of things , the people of Scotland need to remember come next Thursday that this is all about wot we feel is right for our family’s and for Scotland , this isn’t about religion so don’t be fooled Into voting on that idea . Vote for what u think is best for you and your family
RogueLeader
10:55 on 11 September, 2014
SydneyTim – I agree with you regarding the attitude the English have however the mistake you are making is they will be appeased by removing powers from Scotland. I think, considering the way the Welsh are feeling and how NI is, we are far far more likely to see the UK moving towards federalism if there is a No vote. Giving the English more power over their own affairs by removing the influences of Scotland, Wales and NI on purely English matters. Which in my mind is only fair.
That seems like the natural path that will be taken as opposed to the evil WM MPs ripping powers away.
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I think this is a very good point. All of the countries and regions in the UK are suffering from the same London-centric issues and feel disenfranchised. When I speak to relatives in England they tell me they’d like a Yorkshire or North East parliament.
Looks to me like Pistorius is going to be found not guilty, strange goings on with the judges statements, she’s all over the place., five minute break now..
Kingoh
In the event of a No or Yes vote we are assured of faster travel on the choo choos once we crossed the manned or unmanned border respectively with that big fast multi billion pound rail link we are payiong for. And when we visit London we get to enjoy the new updgraded sewer system and 80% increase in subsidised rail travel.
It’s wonderful.
MWD says AYE
An independent Scotland will have 5.5million customers, a country that exports and has a wide variety of businesses and resources. Anyone really believe that the banking sector will pull back to the border. Keep the faith Scotland, believe in yourselves.
Scare stories getting even more elaborate from the No side. They even have TD67 coming out to bat for them.
Desperate times and all that lol
That’ll be an Aye from me
SFTB
Wee Eck has a lot on his plate dealing with FEAR bombs cominig from all angles.
What is your view on the Purdah rules with regards to election promises to both the English and Scottish eloctorate? Is it honest?
MWD says AYE
Geordie. If every voter in Scotland had voted SNP at the last election the referendum would not have taken place , as the SNP would have had a mandate to Create an independent Scotland
Same would be true for 2015 general election
One day Macjay, flights to the west island getting cheaper just need to get a good excuse.
The Green Man
11:03 on 11 September, 2014
Wonder how many no voters will be following the orange walk eh
The descent to sectarianism as government policy…beyond contempt
Hand in hand with masons and orangemen..ha, go right ahead
Now we see the real face of unionism.
HH
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Not sure why you keep banging on about this? I assume that, like me, you were happy to adopt the same position as the SNP, DUP, National Front and BNP in opposing the Iraq War?
The Green Man.
Do you think you are helping your campaign? I am asking you so you will expand and hurt it further. Please answer.
Honestly…usually I dont vote.
Ive nothing but contempt for all politicians.
I had no intention of voting…until recently.
The blackmail and coercion, bowing and scraping by the no campaign. .has changed my mind.
Ive had enough of unionists and orange fascists.
Im voting for independence.
Tories, masons, orangemen, Cameron. Clegg, Miliband…and the rest…girfuy
HH
medtim
10:54 on
11 September, 2014
Bawsman,
A genuine “don’t know” from me.
Others may be better qualified on this than myself,but Way too early to say imo.
On my original point (and thanks for your reply) You may well be correct re.Milliband depending on how much UKIP eat into others’ votes.
There are clear concerns and uncertainties around the prospect of an independent Scotland,but the notion that the people of Scotland would choose to be ruled by Johnson( or any other from the Bullingdon club),Farage or Milliband beggars belief.
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I’m always up for a proper debate mate. People trying to label No voters as OO, Masons, Tories, fascists etc. do the yes campaign harm, more power to them.
The Tory party are in a right mess. The average age of their members is WELL into retirement age BUT, they do vote.
In the main they are little Englanders with no time for Johnny European or foreigner.
IMHO their party’s days as an electable entity are numbered.
There has been some brilliant debate on the effect the independence vote is having outside Scotland.
My favourite debate was on newsnight when Kirsty Wark chaired a discussion at the Embra festival.
At the end of the discussion an English (yes voter) asked that if London was ringfenced and the voters in the rest of the UK were given the choice of being independent of London how would they vote………….it was 100% yes.
I think folk are sick of the greed, the capitalism, the bankers, noses in the troughs, food banks, politicians………………but we are all in it together, all the regions of the country feel the same as we do. I think it will be a NO vote but I don’t think things will return to ‘normal’.
That Standard Life sound like a great company to work for………
In January 2006, Standard Life were accused of smearing a policy-holder, Michael Hogan, who was not happy with the way the company was being run. An e-mail sent to Standard Life executives and advisors (which was disclosed under the Data Protection Act) revealed an attempt to discredit him.
In March 2007 the company announced it would cut 1,000 jobs in an attempt to save an additional £100 million per year in costs. One month later it was highlighted in the company’s annual report that three of Standard Life’s top executives (Sandy Crombie, Keith Skeoch and Trevor Matthews) were awarded more than £5 million in pay. A Standard Life spokesman defended the awards, citing the leadership’s efforts in turning round the company’s fortunes.
In February 2014, Standard Life announced that it may move parts of their operations outside Scotland in the event of Scottish independence, if it was necessary to do so.[26]
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So to re-iterate, the announcement to move parts of operations was made in Feb. 14 but announced by media now as if it had only just come to this decision. Why?
1000 jobs cut and 3 (THREE) senior executives rewarded – to the tune of over £5 million- for the simple act of giving those poor sods the boot. To save costs!!!
Taurangabhoy
11:10 on 11 September, 2014
RBS head office is in London. Costs of Independence for RBS: 1 x Brass Plate, Engraving & 4 screws = £13.14
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RBS is registerd as a Scottish business :
http://www.rbs.com/faqs.html
Pfft, the banks moved the majority of their IT jobs offshore to India in the years following the 2008 crash. 90% of the IT jobs for RBS alone. And that’ll continue regardless of how the vote goes.
Guys try and keep the debate within reasonable limits.
We all have valid points, concerns and opinions. Labelling people “stupid”, “traitors”etc isn’t good. Don’t let your emotions rule your head.