I know we all liked big Erik. He brought instant calm to Ronny Delia’s team when he arrived two years ago today. But, while 2016 started authoritatively for the central defender, it ended with him looking pensive and out of his depth at Ibrox, albeit in a Celtic win.
2017 has been largely forgettable for the player. This season has effectively been a write-off for him, after an injury in the Champions League qualifiers. It would have been better for all if he got a permanent deal elsewhere but at least a loan return to Midtjylland will afford him time to regain his confidence, hopefully leading to a new deal elsewhere in the summer.
I am sure we are still looking at the central defensive space for this month. There could be more in and out.
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MIKE IN TORONTO on 16TH JANUARY 2018 3:08 PM
MIT
Your argument is articulate, considered and balanced. Your references to Sand’s & King are thought provoking.
In the struggles that these two great men were fighting they had a hard-core of support from their core behind them and an empathic support from society as a whole that started small and grew larger over time. That is where the real change came from. Never at any point did they turn against their own they stayed true to their beliefs and to their people to rally support.
Here is where I struggle to connect the dots’. Celtic fans boycotting the club in anyway would only weaken Celtic, the footballing gap that has been established would close giving more hope to other clubs of catching and potentially overtaking them. Celtic have never had any empathic support from society as a whole in this country and a weakened Celtic would only be glorified in the society of which we reside.
Our issues are not actually with Celtic, The board or any part of our club, to think anything else is surely misguided?
The Issues we have are 100% with that other lot and the powers who may have conspired to allow them to be whatever they decided (some would argue continue to allow) Celtic can’t do anything about this without support from the wider footballing society or indeed society as a whole and as we now know that support does not exist. A crusade of any description waged by Celtic in the public domain would surely only strengthen those elements against to resist even more heavily against Celtic.
Thus I believe both a boycott of the club to force action or public action by the club only results in Celtic being worse off in all areas.
As mentioned at the start your positioning of your argument is excellent, I would be really interested if you have any views on how a “Successful outcome” is possible?
MiT
Would love a pint with you Sir. Then another, then another.
I personally see a parallel in the Football and political environments here in Scotland right now. As an 80s leftie I cant believe the lack of outrage against the right wing diktats from London that insult our voting patterns. So too in Football. Most seem to ‘resistance fatigue’
HH jamesgang
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 16TH JANUARY 2018 3:02 PM
YOGIHUGHES Touch of the Shaun Maloney’s then?
*or mibbees the Jozo’s.
What a bummer,I was nearly finished a lengthy response to JAMESGANG and MIKEINTORONTO when my page jumped to about 47 advertising sites in a blink of an eye.
Sort it out,lads. Please.
PAUL 67 et al
Yesterday afternoon I sent emails to eight MSPs concerning the possible repeal of the OBaF Act.
Namely:
John Scott (Tory) – the constituency MSP for Ayr, and the following seven Regional list MSPs for South Scotland:
Michelle Ballantyne (Tory);
Claudia Beamish (Labour);
Emma Harper (SNP);
Joan McAlpine (SNP);
Colin Smyth (Labour);
Paul Wheelhouse (SNP);
Brian Whittle (Tory).
John Scott to his credit replied, literally, within minutes, thanking me for my email and informing me that he had NOT voted for the OBaF Act and would be voting for it to be repealed.
Fair play to him.
As for the other seven – not received a reply yet.
They will all be hearing from me again if they continue to ignore me!
HH!!
MIKE IN TORONTO on 16TH JANUARY 2018 3:08 PM
as some of you will be aware, it was MLKJr. day in America this week, so got me thinking … …. now, AND I CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH… i am not suggesting an equivalence between what happened in America and what Celtic fans have endured
*I was living over here in 1969 when the lid blew off the roof of the black north, some of the reporting via the Canadian msm was very pro-brit, however, wasn’t the same south of the border and if my memory serves me well it was reported by civil rights activists that the Catholics over there were treated worse than the blacks in some of the States.
Ancient Chinese proverb as told to me by a resident of Brucehill now living in Oz:
“man with hand it pocket feels cockie all day”.
Ole Savoy Proverb- never buy a mermaid a pair of tights
JAMESGANG
The Art of the Possible,I’ll remember that the next time I’m accused of pragmatism!!!
I thoroughly enjoyed every word of MIKEINTORONTO’s post. A real call to arms,it had my blood stirring with every 100% discounted word
Yes,we get this for free. And I’m grateful for every syllable.
Because he talks sense,and yet also from the heart.
Except…
For all our status as “The Powerhouse” in Scottish football,are we really?
I’m not suggesting that we touch a forelock,far from it. But our ascendancy is a recent thing. Their powerbase is longstanding.
We’ve tried throwing the plague victims at them,they turned into zombies.
As Rocco said in our favourite film,
“Difficult,not impossible”
(Not sure that turned out too well for Rocco,or tbh,his boss…)
Jamesgang/MIT.
About 3 years ago I was at one of those awful seminars that I have to attend now and then. There was probably about 200 people there.
Anyway to get the seminar started, we were asked to put our hands up and say who our hero was. I don’t have anyone who I would class as a hero.
However some of the answers were starting to grate with me, as they were unoriginal and safe, in my opinion,Churchill, Gandhi, God,Mother, Father, Princess Diana. So I thought stuff it, I put my hand up and said Malcolm x, seriously the snooty facilitator looked at me with disdain, went ooohh and then looked away and said any others to the rest of the audience.
Hail Hail
MIT,
Why should we hurt our own manager and the team to bring the cheats to justice? That seems illogical to me and can only bring a sense of achievement and triumph to the very people that caused the problem in the first place.
A boycott is not a new concept to Celtic supporters. In the 90’s Save our Celts and Celts for Change organised boycotts. The circumstances were totally different and the just objective to achieve change was eventually successful.
This situation is not comparable. We are the number 1 football team in Scotland by a country mile ,both on and off the park. Our board and management teams are doing a decent job.
What would a boycott achieve. Board resignations, our best players leaving, no money for investment, the hunt for a new manager, top tiers of our stadium permanently mothballed .etc, etc.
We all want justice, but let’s be careful we don’t shoot ourselves in the foot. ( or heart ).
The only shower to gain by us withholding funds from our own team will be our enemies.
I want the club to do more to encourage supporters to Parkhead and enjoy a great match day experience. I cannot and will not support any talk of a boycott of Parkhead or the withholding of funds from Celtic.
We have come too far in social and football society to implode because of the actions of others.
HH to you.
Sean P … like JamesG, you raise some interesting points that I do need to consider (and perhaps revise some of my thoughts)… but need a bit of time …but, didn’t want you to think I was ignoring your posts …
A few quick thoughts ….
1.MLK was, in my opinion, let down by parts of his community in Chicago (largely those in his community who had something to protect) … and I think that hurt him deeply … who knows what path the world would have taken but for his murder. So, there is something to the point that both you and JG have raised. I do need to consider it further.
2. “our issues are not actually with Celtic”…. this is something I have commented on, and one day, hope to have a bit of time to explore more fully …. I have compared Celtic to the Church, and suggested adopting Dulles s.J., excellent analysis of ecclesiology (looking at different aspects of the Church, and how they interrelated and interact) as a platform for looking at the different aspects of, and what it means to be, Celtic … the Board are one aspect, the tradition another, the football team, the charitable aspect, and, of course, the fans … all of these aspects, along with others (as I say, I haven’t really got this down on paper, or in my head clearly) make up Celtic … how these aspects relate is important …
but, if its okay, I will check in later, and will reply after my meetings and after I have had a chance to give your comments the thought they deserve.
SEANP1916 331
Beautifully put,mate. That’s the problem in a nutshell.
Even the mineshafters like myself struggle to think of a way to make a point about all of this without hurting Celtic.
And I can’t do that.
I’ll mouth,ill petition,I’ll demand justice or even beg.
But not by damaging Celtic.
GreenP …
okay … last comment, then I do have to run (only staying, cos’ I like you!) …
for me, it is not a choice of hurting or not hurting our club … by continuing to support a system, which hurts our club, we are already hurting our club … by our inactions, we are dying a slow death in scotland … there is a cancer in scottish football, and it has metasticised, and, Celtic, being part of the body that is Scottish football, are in danger of becoming sick, unless we do something …
my thought is that, rather than watch the slow, inevitable decline that is scottish football, something radical is needed..
Malcolm X
The Beeb broadcast the event when He took part in an Oxford Union Debate in 64.Memory of watching it in a pal’s house cos my Old Man Wouldn’t have a tele in the house cos “they suck your brains out.”
Boycotts and writing to your MP’s?
Too many green huns blue huns bigots and rigid belief systems to overcome.
All a complete waste of time.
Good luck though.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 16TH JANUARY 2018 3:52 PM
While I understand why the frustration that no real action has been taken exists.
I cannot understand why some people like KevJ (extreme example, I know) have turned against Celtic because of it? I try to read and understand the point of view but it is alien to me.
Old Inuit proverb
Don’t eat the yellow snow.
Just received a reply from my constituency MSP, Stuart McMillan SNP. You will not be surprised to know that he sent me exactly the same rubbish that the party have put together and told all SNP members to use as the reply to our questions.
In my reply I told him not to belittle my intelligence with such utter rubbish. I also asked him if he was not able to think for himself.
JNP
I’d have gone tonto mate! For a big peely wally white boy I’ve always been a Panther at heart.
SoT
I’ve seen that speech mate. Enthralling.
MiT
You’ve sparked a wee bit of brilliant debate that just demonstrates how special this place can be. By the time of MLK’s murder he was moving into such dangerous ideological places, dangerous to the establishment.
I would love to know where his, Malcolm X and Bob Marley’s world views would have moved to over time had they lived longer.
HH jamesgang
What do you call an Eskimo who’s a Peeping Tom? Itookalook.
Stuart McMillan, SNP just sent me the stock email saying he supports the OBAF act with Neil Bibby saying he wants it gone.
Sean 3.31 Absolutely superb post, I agree with every word.
‘re the Snow Proverbs, He who streaks in the Snow shall get flake on the arse.
ONEMALLOY
Saw your post that you are off to Correlego today .
McCarthys bar “might” be showing the game on Saturday.
Connaire12
” In my reply I told him not to belittle my intelligence with such utter rubbish. I also asked him if he was not able to think for himself.”
Good for you, Connaire. I wonder if there exists a standard SNP reply for that query as well!
JJ
never heard thunder like that …..here comes the thundersnow..
CORKCELT on 16TH JANUARY 2018 4:20 PM
Thanks, we Cork Bhoys need to stick together! I heard there are lurking Dubs around :-)
JAMESGANG
He made an equally good one in Smethwick (sp?) around the time of the Vile -If You Want A Nigger For A Neighbour -Vote Labour -election campaign (65?)
SoT
Thanks. I’ll search it. His eloquence and precision of thought always struck me.
Chapeau to you btw. I always love your posts, footie and music.
IrieCSC
HH JAMESGANG
Can Pay/Wont Pay! the Anti-Poll Tax campaign was the biggest boycott I was involved with as a life long socialist,
Tommy Sheridan,who is on the Pod-cast this week,was at the sharp end of that effort and was indeed jailed for his role in that and served time in Saughton Prison, Someone questioned his credentials on here as a Celtic fan,he was then and is now a big Tim, due to his efforts in the Miners Strike the Ayrshire Miners wanted to rename their flute band after him!! the irony was lost on them ;0)
HH
Didn’t know You were a Cork Bhoy Sean, where in Cork are you from.
I’m originally from the City, Wilton to be precise not too far from University Hospital.
A very long time since I left Cork but I’m still a Rebel to the core.
there is thunderbolts and lightning very, very frightening
mama mia CSC
Brexit
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/brexit-is-a-collective-english-mental-breakdown-1.3356258
Up The Dubs
A bit of rhyming verse there BAR you are a poet but you don’t know it.
It seems the longer a player is out injured the better he gets on the internet.
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPY Birthday
Odsonne Edouard
20todayCSC
TALLYBHOY
I onlyl had 3 replies from Ballantyne , Beamish & Whittle , will be in touch with the other 5 !
Corkcelt
Ole Barney67 is poet of the month mine was an Freddie lyric ;-)