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I have known players from Europe to fly into Scotland during a transfer window for a medical with a local club without their current employer’s knowledge.  This tactic explains the vast majority of overnight stays in a different country by a footballer in these circumstances.  Our errant employee may or may not have been on such a trip.

This is now an HR matter and due process will be followed.  His contract will be worth a significant sum and no one will want to pay that because an employee was not given the right to respond to allegations before action was taken.

Even then, there are reasons not to act immediately.  If the player has a club in Spain lined up, it puts money in his pocket if he becomes a free agent.  Of more concern is the precedent.  There are many players at Celtic who could earn several times their salary by moving this summer, contracts would be worth millions more if they were free agents.

It would be highly unethical behaviour to break lockdown rules in order to try force a move, as a free agent or not, but this is football and a fortune is at stake for both player and agent.  How sure are you another issue will not crop up during the European qualifying campaign?  Celtic’s business model depends on retaining contracted players who want out of their contracts or selling them for a fee.  Players cannot be incentivised to break rules, Covid or other.

The club have lots to consider before acting.  My guess is that their best interests are served by scheduling the appropriate HR meetings soon after the transfer window closes.  At least the left back question has become a little clearer this week, so every cloud……

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  1. The Battered Bunnet on

    It’s certainly a plausible reason for Boli’s otherwise inexplicable behaviour, although plausibility is itself a well trodden trap.

  2. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Nice and measured Pablo.

     

     

    Celtic are actually quite good at asset management (opinion) and the club rarely acts impulsively.

     

     

    For me the best approach is …

     

     

    Establish the facts during the HR process

     

     

    Let him move to Spain

     

     

    Advise the player and his agent that all transfer fee monies will come to us and any outstanding deferred pay will be forfeited.

     

     

    The above being our price for not asking FIFA to have the agent struck off for shamelessly putting lives at risk during a pandemic by inducing his client (implicitly or explicitly) to violate laws in order to make them both richer.

     

     

    Oh, and buy a left back.

     

     

    😊

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Keep The Faith

  3. Some sober and well made points, P67.

     

     

    The gravity of the challenge that now faces us should be apparent to everyone at Celtic Park.

     

     

    Between now and Dundee Utd, lets get those two strikers signed up, get our CB & LB through the door and march towards that ten.

  4. glendalystonsils on

    We have erred before in failing to build from a position of strength . The tortoise must not be allowed to overtake the sleeping hare this time , in this of all seasons.

  5. i would have thought that pettifogging due process overseen by an anally retentive OCDish lawyer followed by summary dismissal would be the best outcome.

     

     

    It saves money, and shows resolution.

     

     

    Commercial expediency though will no doubt dictate a different outcome.

     

     

    Alternatively, extend the hand of friendship, offer a wee trip away somewhere to let the player get his mojo back. Maybe a trip back to his old stomping ground of Bruges.

  6. Chairbhoy @ 10.06 previous article.

     

     

    You score heavily after a nights sleep under the Chilterns.

     

     

    Celtic and Mikael Lustig eventually parted amicably, you just have to read all of what both club and player said in full, ( don’t ask me to find it though ) football farewell matches mean zilch in this ‘tough business’, ask Paul McStay, or whoever caught his jersey when it landed in your beloved jungle.

     

     

    I first heard of Boli Bolingoli in cyber space, long before he signed for Celtic where scouting supporters had picked him out for being particularly poor, playing in Glasgow for Rapid Vienna, he was signed very quickly with no apparent Celtic dithering, the rest as they say is history.

     

     

    We’ll never know whether the player would have heeded big bad Peter or not, but Neil Lennon used the word ‘we’ when the players were told not to leave Glasgow, maybe we’re not as autocratic as you say after all? It wasn’t left to lowly football coach to spell out quarantine to Boli, and Celtic it seems since March consider themselves exemplars during Covid, complying left right and centre, en mass. Besides, most decent employers put the fluid situation in writing regularly as the pandemic changes occur, and without ever meeting their CEO never mind speaking to him about your impending ad hoc days off, for staying super fit.

     

     

    Leigh Griffiths won’t be the last professional footballer to return in summer, never mind a lockdown overweight, I agree Celtic should have headed off the tabloids at the pass, and Neil shouldn’t have washed his dirty linnen in public age old mistake. I’ve not made my mind up if Boli had an ulterior motive, but either way Celtic VST angst will turn to pity, in time for  Reykjavik next Tuesday.

     

     

    This morning my wife said what’s his name? – unlike King Kenny, it seems not everyone knows his name.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  7. Bayo joins Toulouse on season-long loan

     

    By: Newsroom Staff on 12 Aug, 2020 12:12

     

     

    CELTIC can confirm that forward Bayo has joined French Ligue 2 side, Toulouse, on loan until the end of this season.

     

    The 23-year-old moved to Paradise in January 2019 from Slovakian side Dunajská Streda, and has since made 17 appearances for the Hoops, scoring twice in that time.

     

    The Ivorian striker will now move to Patrice Garande’s side for the 2020/21 campaign. Everyone at Celtic wishes Bayo well during his time in France.

  8. Apologies for using the word resolution in previous post.

     

     

    I hope it doesn’t breach the no sweary words policy

  9. The Onlooker at 1:18

     

     

    I’ve got a mate who has been coached by John Kennedy.

     

     

    The order of where to headers is – far, but this doesn’t happen very often as you are generally under pressure or can’t attack it as much as you’d like. The next option is wide as Jack Charlton suggests.

     

    Never should it be short and centre.

  10. EXCLUSIVE! Albian Ajeti set to sign permanent Celtic deal as £5m West Ham striker heads to Glasgow

     

     

    @DailyRecord

     

     

     

    – Good news. Hurrah !

     

     

    NOT

  11. EXCLUSIVE! Albian Ajeti set to sign permanent Celtic deal as £5m West Ham striker heads to Glasgow

     

     

    @DailyRecord

     

     

    – Good news. Hurrah !

     

     

    NOT

     

     

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    Ah well. I enjoyed the good times while they lasted….

  12. imo for all those asking why have we so many trophies with such poor defensive coaches i.e. JK , what you should be asking is how good a team would we be with proper defensive coaches.

  13. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    Makes sense: make him train with the kids whilst looking for a new club that will pay if fee. If he can’t then terminate his contract after the window closes (although would he still be able to sign for someone as a free agent?).

  14. Repost from earlier today.

     

     

    Hi folks this is non-football related. I’m looking for a favour if possible. My son has just qualified as a domestic gas engineer (couldn’t get a job with his engineering degree and retrained) but lacks experience, he has his Gas Safe Card.

     

    Do we have any gas engineers on here who would allow him to shadow them for a period in a bid to get his knowledge up and some experience under his belt? He is presently staying with us in Forres but could easily travel from Glasgow, where his sister lives. Obviously he is not looking for any form of payment if it involves practical experience.

     

    He has his own tools and transportation

  15. MAJESTIC HARTSON

     

    The Onlooker

     

    I’ve got a mate who has been coached by John Kennedy.

     

    The order of where to headers is – far, but this doesn’t happen very often as you are generally under pressure or can’t attack it as much as you’d like. The next option is wide as Jack Charlton suggests.

     

    Never should it be short and centre.

     

     

    What happens in our case when our defenders can’t even get to the ball with their head at crosses/free kicks and corners ,giving the opposition free headers , do we just close our eyes.

  16. VVD also did well with coaching at Southampton.

     

     

    It may even be that VVD is a genuinely world class player

  17. Celtic need to follow disciplinary procedures – there are numerous successful appeals where employers have failed in that matter.

  18. Siempre Celtic (formerly Traditionalist88) on

    Little known fact….VVD played less games for Southampton than he did for us.

     

     

    Or maybe everybody knew that :)

     

     

    I’d say it would surprise many down south.

     

     

    HH

  19. If we use this enforced break to recruit who we need,then it might not be as bad as it could have been.Just wondering,again,how long it actually takes to get Ajeti in front of the cameras,with his Adidas gear on.There is a striker in Peterboro,knocking back moves to other clubs,who would walk up the road to sign tomorrow.Has not played in any of Peterboros friendlies.Is in the bad books,because he has told them he wants to join us.Has informed Mr Fry,that in 4 months he can sign a pre-contract with whoever,and that they should accept Celtics offer.This,from an impeccable source this morning,from Peterboro.Unless someone turns his head with a 70 grand a week offer,that is.Last word,my mate told me,we would be mad not to sign him.

  20. For outfield players/tactics Celtic have coaches, not defensive or offensive, just coaches. The only specialist coach at the club is Stevie Woods. As quoted by woods and Kennedy on a Celtic podcast two years ago.

  21. I know for a fact Julien and Ajer lurk on here so they’ll now know how to head the ball clear. So that’s sorted – Julien is also contacting his previous club to complain they didn’t train that method.

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