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Ethics and manipulating a move

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I have known players from Europe to fly into Scotland during a transfer window for a medical with a local club without their current employer’s knowledge.  This tactic explains the vast majority of overnight stays in a different country by a footballer in these circumstances.  Our errant employee may or may not have been on such a trip.

This is now an HR matter and due process will be followed.  His contract will be worth a significant sum and no one will want to pay that because an employee was not given the right to respond to allegations before action was taken.

Even then, there are reasons not to act immediately.  If the player has a club in Spain lined up, it puts money in his pocket if he becomes a free agent.  Of more concern is the precedent.  There are many players at Celtic who could earn several times their salary by moving this summer, contracts would be worth millions more if they were free agents.

It would be highly unethical behaviour to break lockdown rules in order to try force a move, as a free agent or not, but this is football and a fortune is at stake for both player and agent.  How sure are you another issue will not crop up during the European qualifying campaign?  Celtic’s business model depends on retaining contracted players who want out of their contracts or selling them for a fee.  Players cannot be incentivised to break rules, Covid or other.

The club have lots to consider before acting.  My guess is that their best interests are served by scheduling the appropriate HR meetings soon after the transfer window closes.  At least the left back question has become a little clearer this week, so every cloud……

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  1. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    Ive heard the reason why getting the boy from West Ham has taken so long is because he travels everywhere by boat.

     

     

    Celtic have been awaiting planning permission to build Ajeti on the Clyde close to Celtic Park.

     

     

    I’ll get ma coat.

  2. By the look of a photo doing the rounds, Ajeti actually did ‘jet’ in.

     

     

    Huns will be raging….

  3. UNCLE JIMMY,

     

     

    VVD was obviously a great prospect,but only we saw it.He came on leaps and bounds with us.Thats why Saints paid the money,( an absolute bargain now ).He was only at Saints a few weeks,before their fans realized how good he was.He has since thanked Celtic for all that they did for him.Armstrong another.Took a bit more time for him,because of the manager then,but now is a first team regular.Dembele was a big guy with potential.We brought it out.Also Eddy.French manager,only last week telling him,to stay,as he was being developed brilliantly by us.

     

    For some to decry our coaching is mystifying to me.

  4. Siempre Celtic (formerly Traditionalist88) on

    Great news. Had concerns that the carry on yesterday might have even scuppered potential transfers. Seems to have been our no1. Still think we might need another, especially if we want to play two up front, given the uncertainty over the availability of Griffiths and ability of Klimala.

     

     

    HH

  5. Great news on Ajeti – who probably now thinks Scotland is a warm country!

     

     

    Good signing. Happy with that

  6. FEEDTHEBEAR,

     

     

    And Aston Villa took on one of the best CHs in England,John Terry,as defensive coach.That went well.

  7. Turkeybhoy

     

     

    Referencing ‘our coaching’ is a little misleading. We need to date it also.

     

     

    Our coaching 10 years ago? 5 years ago? Today?

     

     

    We have looked like a well oiled machine in previous campaigns. Other times, we have looked a little ponderous. In my opinion

  8. There may be real trouble ahead..

     

     

    The consequences of the restrictions required by Covid is like having VAR over every game and over every player after every game has ended.

     

     

    Just as celebrating a goal where an infringement may rule it out dampens the celebration, so too will breathes be held week after week.

     

     

    If the next infringement, and it will happen, rules out the season, the Scottish football industry will go down the toilet.

     

     

    It also introduces a moral hazard in that as matters stand the rules give the power to one single person to destroy the industry if they feel motivated or encouraged to do so in certain circumstances.

     

     

    The postponement of matches of any club where an infringement has occurred is the only realistic sanction and the SG need to be careful not to paint themselves into the corner where the baby is sitting in the bathwater waiting to be thrown out.

     

     

    Some wriggle room using testing as the barometer of risk is required otherwise the gemme’s a bogey.

     

     

    What is the point of testing at a cost to clubs if the results are ignored? I appreciate it is all to do with the incubation period before the presence of the virus can be detected but does it have to be 14 days after a negative test but only if you left the bubble.

     

     

    Did clubs know when agreeing to the testing requirement negative results were deemed unreliable?

     

     

    Some clarity is required for both sides to proceed with some judgement of certainty v risk to make the new normal as near to the old normal in moral hazard terms.

     

     

    That is the real issue rather than blaming others for something over which they cannot realistically be held responsible aka confirmation bias.

  9. After looking at the Boli error, i think we should stand back and look at what he done. He flew to spain and back the next day. The problem was he didn’t quarantine on return.

     

     

    Now I bet that lots of the people who flew back from Spain didn’t quarantine.

     

     

    I think we should calm down a bit, as if it wasn’t Boli, then, I am sure there would not be a fuss. He hasn’t been playing and didn’t expect to play at Kilmarnock

     

     

    Our games have been postponed and will have no bearing on the Rangers games. If they are 11 points clear if they win all their games. We will have 3 games in hand and maybe when they get played then we will have fans in.

  10. Ernie Lynch 12.49.

     

     

    In the words of the unforgettable Chic Murray – “Stoap that”. :)

  11. If fans were allowed back into stadiums, prior to us completing our postponed fixtures, would they be allowed in for those rearranged games when everyone else had to play BCD? por cierto

  12. You won’t see fans in stadia this side of Christmas – the r rate is on the rise -people cannot be trusted to obey social distance rules – new motto “shut pubs stop the virus”

  13. Ajeti stepping of private jet.Wonder if Minty loaned it to him.

     

    Hope its one way.Medical,Lennoxtown tomorrow,playing next week.

  14. Auldheid – Nicola is in charge don’t you know – what happened to guided by scientific evidence.

     

    Everyone tested negative – no danger of spreading the virus – don’t care postpone the games – why – cause I said. What about Kilmarnock – mmm – not interested.

     

    Boli needs moving on or moving out as soon as possible.

  15. UNCLE JIMMY

     

    I agree.We looked very ponderous,in WGS last season,and ditto in Rodgers second season.John Kennedy been there a loooong time.But as I said earlier,I am tending to go with the very knowledgeable,coach wise,Damian Duff,who rates him as an excellent coach,as he has first hand knowledge working with him.

  16. And what about that newclub mob who were first to break the protocols – everyone was negative so no issue – is that not a contradiction – mmm – not interested.

  17. GENE,

     

     

    I think that the feeling was something had to be done,to try and ram it home to some idiots,so the season could carry on.Could have been a lot worse.We still have the games to play.

  18. BIGBHOY

     

     

    What if it was a “ranger” player, don’t think there would be to many calm Celtic fans.

     

     

    Just thinking if we fired Boli would his Lawyer state the LG case,If so could be a buy out.

  19. Jullienn ,had the most headed clearances in France in his last season.

     

     

    wow, it’s a pity we don’t play in the french league as his attempts at headed clearances in SPL is poor to say the least.

  20. prestonpans bhoys on

    Turkeybhoy@2:17

     

     

    Agree with you totally, that was a yellow card to the muppets who administrator our game.

     

     

    Think we got off lightly could just have suspended the season.

  21. The horse racing (HR) industry is offering up two meetings next month as possible (restricted) crowd attendance events. One is in Newmarket, the other is the Ayr Gold Cup Festival which will be held Sept 19-21.I’m guessing wee Nicola has the say-so on the latter, especially so since she is originally from that part of Scotland. At this point in time, given recent behavioural events, it is impossible to predict what that decision might be. That said it might serve as some kind of marker for football, which had a provisional date of early October set by Boris.

  22. I am tending to go with the very knowledgeable,coach wise,Damian Duff,who rates him as an excellent coach,as he has first hand knowledge working with him.

     

     

    would you expect him to say anything else against a mate.

  23. Brendan 12:48

     

     

    The Truth.

     

     

     

    God Bless yer Brother.

     

     

    Celtic is Fundamentally Good.

     

     

    It is gonnae be so very hard to get 10.

     

     

    I think we might do it.

  24. Siempre Celtic (formerly Traditionalist88) on

    There were only 12 on board that train but looks like at least 2 have passed away

  25. Turkeybhoy

     

     

    Agree, good endorsement from Duff.

     

     

    As an aside, I’m not sure John K would have been a coach with the first team during VVDs time? Could be wrong

  26. I think the Ajeti deal took a while because our finance team were suspicious when he asked for his wages to be wired to a Swiss bank account😝

     

     

    Only one Albian Ajeti

     

    He eats Swiss cheese

     

    He scores with ease…….

  27. Coneybhoy

     

     

    Ball in Netty line 2 surely ????

     

     

    It’s been too long since we sang that beauty :)

  28. Phil Macs comments on the possibility of a contract lacking a gross misconduct clause are incorrect. A written clause or otherwise it will be an implied term.

     

     

    Hmmm

  29. ROBERTTRESSELL on 12TH AUGUST 2020 2:53 PM

     

    Phil Macs comments on the possibility of a contract lacking a gross misconduct clause are incorrect. A written clause or otherwise it will be an implied term.

     

    Hmmm

     

     

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    Correct.

  30. I recall that recently some one said that our two full backs were too small, suggesting they were no good, really.

     

    Jackie Mac, Danny McGrain and Jim Brogan were hardly giants, but they were ok!!!!!

     

    I mean , you dont surely want some lumbering Sumo wrestler at fullback, or do you

     

    KINGLuBO

  31. Turkeghoy:

     

     

    `For some to decry our coaching is mystifying to me.`

     

     

    Considering the negativity of some on here , I am sure a positive chap such as yourself is not really mystified!

  32. Kinglubo

     

     

    Our full backs are too small and our centre backs are too tall. Sign Goldilocks.

  33. I’m there are other players who have, in recent weeks, been trying to engineer a move

     

     

    I don’t think this is the last of it tbh

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