The evidence is clear: we’ve got our Celtic back. The football on Saturday was better than at any point this season. Four goals scored told only part of the story. Odsonne Edouard alone hit the post three times, while Callum McGregor struck the crossbar and Scott Sinclair hit the post with the keeper out of his goal.
Faculties that were so elusive a few weeks ago, like passing and movement, were a joy. Tom Rogic deserved his Man of the Match award, while Odsonne is back looking ominously difficult to play. The loss of Scott Brown to injury was a worry, while his replacement, Scott Sinclair continues to struggle to recapture past form. If you were within a mile of Celtic Park, you may also have heard me when Mikael Lustig was out-muscled for Hibs second goal.
Hibs looked a shadow of the team we expected in the first half. Anyone who comes to Celtic Park with more lofty intentions than simply defending their 18-yard box had better be on form. They objectively improved in the second half, but that would have been different if the woodwork did not come to their rescue so often.
I’m not going to tell you I’m confident about Leipzig, but I am looking forward to Murrayfield on Sunday. We look ready to defend our treble.
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GERRYFAETHEBRIG on 22ND OCTOBER 2018 10:35 PM
Financial success and sound financial management are Peter`s principle and prime responsibilities.
He`s a raging success in his field. Oversees the deals . Buys low , sells high .
Makes a PROFIT. Dirty word for some .
I sincerely hope he`s on a percentage.
He deserves it.
G-D on 22ND OCTOBER 2018 10:41 PM
GFTB, not complaining, just trying to understand. To me it reads like he is heavily incentivised to reach CL, this seems in contradiction to the popular narrative of heated driveways sabotaging CL success. As I said just trying to understand, no doubt we have an accountant or two in our midst who can explain.
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That is indeed the case from 2016, but was not necessary the case prior to the change of remuneration package.
HH
CRC
THOMTHETHIM @ 7:23 PM,
BOURNESOUPRECIPE @ 7:57 PM,
Thank you for the replies, you make some very good points, however whether Brendan’s summer plan was the right one or not, whether by backing him to reward existing talent and endeavour with improved contracts removes our ability to pay large transfer fees or not is of course salient issues. And a lot longer post is needed eke out these points.
My current point would be simply this…
– Brendan’s plan for summer transfers (whether good or bad, practical or not) was not backed.
This led to a complete disconnect in our transfer objectives and this led to a incoherent squad building process.
Result…
Our squad is weaker than it has been in three seasons
We failed to qualify for the UCL
We started the season and therefore our EUL campaign poorly.
At the end of last Season we had £100M turnover and a Squad worth £100M. The transfer window failure means our turnover has decreased and the value of our squad has decreased.
I’m glad that Brendan is being magnanimous, for me it means he still sees his future with Celtic. It means we can hopefully start putting things right in January.
It’s great to see the team play so well now and it’s come at the right time, in a week we’ll know if we have a real Euro campaign in us and a shot at a treble, treble.
Hail Hail
If anyone is interested in a decent level of scouting, I carried out some of my own at the weekend, free of charge.
Lee Congerton watch out
If we crave a replacement for Dembele in January, we seriously need to take a look at :
Luka Jovic at Eintracht Frankfurt
21 yr old Bosnian International.
Serious talent. Guy is on fire
Macjay
My big brother is friendly with Eric Riley ((who wasn’t a Celtic fan but is now) our board are good at what they do, thankfully we have Brendan making sure we are collecting trophies, before CQN I didn’t even care about the “financials” but you get dragged in on here…. and it is quite interesting as there a few bhoys/Ghirls on here that know their stuff
Sky sports news , SPFL feature on Hertz and Sevco. Celtic? Nah. Don’t be silly. Not a mention of Saturday’s game.
NorrieM,
Wheeltappers and Shunters Club
Norriem
It’s from the Wheel tappers and Shunter club
HH
Phil
GLENDALYS
SKY did a ‘Celtic in crisis special’ on the day Sevco lost in Livingston
GERRYFAETHEBRIG on 22ND OCTOBER 2018 10:51 PM
Mate
The divisive element which the serial complainers create .
Simply a downer .
Any perceived or real negative element in the life of Celtic is sheeted back to the Board.
Whether it is beyond the ability of the Board to remedy said issue or not .
” Whit are the Board dain` about it ” ?
Obviously this was a relevant , in fact necessary , attitude in the past.
But now ?
There is a pub in Coatbrig at the Fountain called “Shunters” and ma Da used to call it ”Wheeltappers” I never knew what it meant
Macjay
Am no “board” lackie but they are far more transparent than previous boards … still think they could do better but we all could do better :-)
If anyone honestly believes that Peter Lawwell could not be replaced by an equally good CEO they are badly mistaken. That is the kind of talk board members put about to justify their overinflated salaries. The gap between average wages in firms and directors salaries since the Thatcher era is off the scale.
The managing directors of Scottish Banks a few generations ago would be astonished at the money their descendants were drawing nowadays.
Who decides the salaries and bonuses? Other directors.
Who are they answerable to? Major shareholders. Who are they? Folk like Dermott Desmond. Or big corporate shareholders. They are all in it together. Most directors are on several corporate boards. They are incestuous.
PL could be replaced tomorrow for half the price.
There’s a cracking photo of the ‘Durrant/Simpson’ tackle and, some Fenian wag has Papa’d the Holy Father’s face over Neil Simpson.
Unfortunately, not in work at the moment or I would have posted it on here with the heading ‘F@ck The Patella’ (FTP)….
JIMTHETIM53 on 22ND OCTOBER 2018 11:10 PM
If anyone honestly believes that Peter Lawwell could not be replaced by an equally good CEO they are badly mistaken.
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Who are you nominating ?
Jimthetim53
Would the “committee” or Dermott not replace Peter if there are better candidates out there ?
Me personally, I think we are a well run club with a fantastic group of youngish players who could break more domestic records
Fellow Celtic fans good night n god bless … Monday’s on the blog are pretty nice
Hail Hail and remember there is somebody always worse off than yourself at least we were born Celtic fans :-)
Macjay
I nominate Neganon
Down with Lawwell.
Long live Neganon
WITS
You told me your nephew had a heated driveway didn’t you? :-)
HH
CRC
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 22nd October 2018 10:43 pm
“Financial success and sound financial management are Peter`s principle and prime responsibilities.”
And if he stuck to that then all well and good but the evidence is that he doesn’t. So sorry I don’t think he is worth his salary/bonus but if he and the board decide to do the right thing and finally back the Res. 12’ers then I will gladly reconsider my position, albeit that “doing the right thing” should be the default position and not something worthy of reward. Imho it’s nothing to do with profit and all to do with value for money and ethics. You can’t just take the good parts of the job and bask in the successes whilst ignoring the difficult challenges because of the people it will upset or what it may reveal. It’s time for PL and the board to step up, earn their corn and show that they are in our corner. “A club like no other” – we’ll soon find out….
Hail Hail
I will not mention his name, but I know a guy who was head hunted for a very senior job at Celtic about 15 years ago, who was managing director of a huge American firm in their European HQ in Brussels. Anyone who knows me will know who I am talking about.
And that’s just me.
There is always a new generation coming up behind the present incumbents.
Peter Lawwell will not be there forever. He can and will be replaced. Regardless of how good he is doing, he is not worth 2.5m per year. It is disgusting.
You overestimate how good he is. It’s not like he is in charge of Tesco, up against Morrisons, Sainsbury, Aldi Lidl etc
Are Celtic fans going to beggar off to another team? Even during the Ronnie seasons we were still drawing in more than double any other team in Scotland. He gets it easy.
Lads
Celtic are in a good place.
Well run on a sound financial footing.
We cuff the huns on a regular basis.
Sun is in the sky , oh why oh why would we want to be anywhere else ?
Picture by Lily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmYT79tPvLg
WHAT IS THE STARS on 22ND OCTOBER 2018 11:23 PM
But will Neganon accept peanuts ?
I`ll leave you to do the anticipated prolonged negs.
Two state solution ? Too easy .
Brendan speaking after the Hibs game…
Of the lack of transfer activity, Rodgers was clear in his disapproval, saying: “In the summer we wanted to go into another gear and we didn’t. We stood still. And slowly from then, we’ve started to move and we’ve moved forward and forward each week.”
Going by Brendan’s own words does really believe he is-
A) Content with our transfer dealings this summer .
B) Satisfied the board gave him appropriate support in his quest to strengthen the team this summer.
The transfer window of inactivity appears to still rankle him but I think he will stick it out with us, I certainly hope so. Arguably our best manager since Stein.
HH
SID1888 on 22ND OCTOBER 2018 11:29 PM
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 22nd October 2018 10:43 pm
“Financial success and sound financial management are Peter`s principle and prime responsibilities.”
And if he stuck to that then all well and good but the evidence is that he doesn’t.
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Please provide the evidence .
Perfectly happy to revise my opinion based on evidence.
Please correct me if I`m wrong , but my understanding is that Peter does what the Board tells him to do .
If his remuneration is stratospheric , as you suggest , then perhaps the Board feel that he is carrying out his remit to a T and achieving the results he has been mandated.
How much did Moussa earn per annum ?
Less or more than Peter ?
Why no whinge about players earnings ?
*Going by Brendan’s own words does really ANYONE believe he is-
HH
Macjay, absolutley correct we are sailing in realativly calm waters however it is the nature of our support to question and require better. The disconnect over the Summer was palpable and I personally felt a Siberian draught at the thought of Brendan leaving.
I hope he stays for another 3 years minimum.
More appropriate from the same Lily Allen song posted at 11.33pm ?
When you look with your eyes
Everything seems nice
But if you look twice
You can see its all lies
knowyourlyrics.com
HH
WITS
Just saw that your nephew got £1.4m bonus award for Celtic qualifying for the group stages of the UCL in 2017/18 and getting through to the Zenit game. He only got 890k award for the previous season.
Not bad at all and people complain about his lack of championship manager skills :-)
HH
CRC
G-D on 22ND OCTOBER 2018 11:50 PM
Mate.
Harmony amongst Tims.
Please.
I remember the days of Hun dominance.
” Haffey , Haffey ”
” Celtic Ha Ha Ha .”
We were laughable . Not now.
Entre nous………………….I feel that the earlier reference to Thatcher explained a lot about the rejectioners .
OY OY OY .
:-)
MACJAY1 at 11:47
Please provide the evidence .
Perfectly happy to revise my opinion based on evidence.
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I have responded to the points you made below each one.
Q/ Please correct me if I`m wrong , but my understanding is that Peter does what the Board tells him to do .
A/ No idea but he’s the CEO and seems to think he knows a player’s value more than some of our managers.
Q/ If his remuneration is stratospheric , as you suggest , then perhaps the Board feel that he is carrying out his remit to a T and achieving the results he has been mandated.
A/ I didn’t suggest his remuneration was stratospheric merely that imo he’s not worth his salary/bonus.
Q/ How much did Moussa earn per annum ?
A/ No idea but his contract would have been negotiated and awarded by PL
Q/ Less or more than Peter ?
A/ See above
Q/ Why no whinge about players earnings ?
A/ Because PL agrees their contracts
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Don’t know if your know PL personally but I think he’s overrated, mind it’s just my opinion.
HH
SID1888 on 23RD OCTOBER 2018 12:03 AM
Apologies , mate.
I must arise and go now.
Will respond later.
And they gave us James McGrory and Paul McStay, they gave us Johnstone, Tully……..
and absolute star of a man.
In my thoughts Stephen.
Two state solution ? Too easy .
DBHOY on 22ND OCTOBER 2018 11:46 PM
Brendan speaking after the Hibs game…
Of the lack of transfer activity, Rodgers was clear in his disapproval, saying: “In the summer we wanted to go into another gear and we didn’t. We stood still. And slowly from then, we’ve started to move and we’ve moved forward and forward each week.”
Going by Brendan’s own words does really believe he is-
A) Content with our transfer dealings this summer .
B) Satisfied the board gave him appropriate support in his quest to strengthen the team this summer.
The transfer window of inactivity appears to still rankle him but I think he will stick it out with us, I certainly hope so. Arguably our best manager since Stein.
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Nowhere in the first quote does it say or suggest “disapproval”.
Disappointment, yes. We were all disappointed.
As for (B).
Perhaps the Board gave him all the support they were able to, in line with the budget. Brendan acknowledged the problem of players refusing to leave and the effect that had on recruitment.
However, that fact doesn’t suit your and other’s narrative.
The interesting part of his quote for me is this, “And slowly from then, we’ve started to move and we’ve moved forward and forward each week.”
Does that not suggest that the players were at the club, but for one reason or another, it was not happening for them at the start of the season.
If I was to speculate, I would say that the Boyata and Dembélé situations had an effect on team morale….and I don’t think that could be placed solely at the Boardroom door.
It appears to be difficult for some to keep their Us and Them agenda out of their reasoning.
HH
Nae sign o’ DD tonight?
Probably too much of New York’s finest last night :-)
https://youtu.be/OO2ROJ6pr2w
World destruction
https://youtu.be/B5S-q1gRxvw
Aye, DD or Bobby haven’t been all day I think. Nor Sentinelcelts. Hope they are OK.
Transmission
https://youtu.be/P1tdTS_Jr8s
JTT53
Delaney’s heid probably exploded listening to the Ramones :-)
Die toten hosen….Here Come’s Alex
https://youtu.be/6z8o7qAIlIU