All of that exhilarating football from Tuesday lands on the hard plastic surface of Rugby Park on Sunday, as Celtic return to the ground which last year cost Brendan Rodgers his 100% trophy record in Scotland, then resulted in an even worse performance and defeat in the league.
This will be Kilmarnock’s first home game since their hilarious win over Newco. Their three games on the road since then resulted in a win at Tynecastle, and defeats to Ross County and Dundee.
They have not lost at home since August, when St Johnstone thumped them 0-3 as Derek McInnes rested several players before their Conference League trip to Norway. That record will be tested by the flowing fabulousness of the champions.
For Brendan, this will be a rare occasion when he has a full squad to choose from and no game to worry about for two weeks. He may choose to leave Cameron Carter-Vickers’ knees on the bench, but otherwise, I expect a full strength team to start, and get the game won early on.
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Deniabhoy re noise levels.
Very interesting.
Us – 129
Galatasaray – 131
Just 2 Dbs required to be the world’s most successful at being loud football club.
Something to target at Bruges game perhaps?
Coefficient chat last night resurrected a bit of a myth.
No need for myths when the data is available.
UEFA site data is clear.
Bert Kassies’ is clearer.
I for one am very comfortable acknowledging R2ngers role as the biggest overall contributor to Scotland’s coefficients in the last 6 years.
But the majority of that contribution is four to six years old and in the rear view mirror.
In last three seasons (including this one) Scotland’s top two contributors have amassed 24 and 23 coefficient points respectively.
Which is which?
Clue 1 : club with more has very loud supporters in their stadium (FACT)
Clue 2 : club with less claims to be the world’s most successful football club (MYTH)
Turnbull just cleaned out Cantwell 👍
B2B – read many times that this season is the last time the SPFL winners go straight into group stages. I assume this oft repeated information is based on the drop off in coefficient points? So if we won, let’s say 3 more games and r2ngers (I like that) did something similar (maybe Hearts also get a couple of wins), does that make it possible that direct entry could again be achieved season after next?
I read somewhere that we are closing in on Austria to being back to where we need to be. If, as looks likely, we go straight in to the CL next season, then we would hopefully achieve something similar again to this season.
2-3 consecutive seasons or more participating in the new CL setup could effectively bury r2ngers (usual caveats apply of manager, team and budget staying similar or improving).
the rags –
Celtic boss repeats wish to retain services of defender as English clubs circle teen talent.
Brendan Rodgers hopes Celtic can reach a new contract agreement with Greg Taylor, saying he wants to work with the left-back “for as long as I possibly can”. (Football Scotland), external
Celtic forward Daniel Cummings, 18, is being tracked by a host of English clubs, with the Scotland youth international out of contract next summer. (Football Insider), external
Rangers fans will get a chance to question the under-fire Ibrox board after the date for the annual shareholders meeting was confirmed for 5 December. (Daily Record), external
“Let’s leave those coffee shop rumours,” says Hajduk Split head coach Rino Gattuso when asked about the possibility of a return to Rangers to succeed Philippe Clement. (Telegram.hr via Scottish Sun, external)
Philippe Clement is right to manage the minutes of James Tavernier and his decision could well see the Rangers captain come back even stronger, says former Ibrox skipper Barry Ferguson. (Daily Record), external
Reo Hatate is back to his “thrilling best” with “outrageous talent and an engine to keep it all running”, says ex-Celtic striker Chris Sutton, who says the midfielder “looks to be really grasping senior-figure responsibility”. (Daily Record), external
Aberdeen boss Jimmy Thelin reveals how a talk with Sir Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford helped clear his head after losing the League Cup semi-final 6-0 to Celtic. (Press & Journal), external
Misfiring Hearts captain Lawrence Shankland has had the most attempts out of every player in the Conference League – taking a pop at goal 15 times without hitting the net. (Scottish Sun), external
Lawrence Shankland “looked like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders” when reflecting on his missed chances against Heidenheim on Thursday, says former Scotland striker Kris Boyd. (Scottish Sun)
Anyone know why Kilmarnock want another year playing on the plastic?.A vote was taken,what is their problem?.I have read nothing as to their reasons.
Like, I presume most of us, I am still sucking the juice from Tuesday’s Masterclass. Where does that game stand in the living memory history of Celtic. I am in my 75th season supporting the club. My first match was in 1950.
For me, Leaving the 25th. May 1967 on it’s pedestal, as it is inviolate, when it comes to comparisons. As for the rest, I honestly can’t recall a match of that calibre. that ticked all the boxes.
The prematch atmosphere and going a goal down in all too familiar circumstances.
What followed was mindblowing in respect of our recovery. We went from one down to equality, then domination by producing a performance of skill, courage and commitment at a level I can’t ever recall seeing from a Celtic team, except see above.
Not one weakness in the team. Keep an eye on Engles. He has more then a touch of Booby Murdoch in him.
Lord, take me now.
Damn. Sorry Bobby
TB,
The no plastic pitch rule is to be in place for season 26/27
Kilmarnock had planned to do it earlier. but are not saying costs are prohibitive and they will postpone it.
Several other championship clubs are going legal to make a challenge.
As i said yesterday, i find it a bit of a myth that our players cannot play on plastic.
Every player will have grown up playing/training on these pitches.
A wee quiz question, how many times do we think Celtic have been beaten on plastics pitches v grass over the last 24 years ?
how many Celtic players have been injured on plastic pitches ?
i expect a hard fought win tomorrow, the bounce and speed of the pitch will be a factor, but we have won at killie multiple times in the last 24 years.
btw, celtic will have 3 plastic pitches across our facilities when the indoor pitch is finished.
it is a big fat waste of money for me, but people are consistenly moaning that it is something we need, i dont believe it.
Can’t be bothered looking up the data but i’d wager we have the record for decibel per spectator 👍
The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on 9th November 2024 2:59 pm
Can’t be bothered looking up the data but i’d wager we have the record for decibel per spectator 👍
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back in the 60s morton had a supporter who was known locally as “the voice”
because his encouragement of the ton could be heard above the crowd, he was my wife grandfather.
but watching morton v ayr last night i found it pretty funny that the audio kep picking up someone in the cowshed giving it large with a lot of swearies.
SS,thanks.
Its not the injury thing for me,its the bounce and pace of the ball.Grass will cushion and slow the ball.
BR quoted,” He had never seen a good game on a plastic surface”
from the beeb.
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31 May 2024
Scottish Premiership clubs have voted to ban artificial pitches in the top flight from the beginning of season 2026-27.
The SPFL this month issued a resolution to be voted on by all 12 Premiership clubs, with nine votes required for it to pass.
Next season’s top flight will be made up of Aberdeen, Celtic, Dundee, Dundee United, Hearts, Hibernian, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Rangers, Ross County, St Johnstone and St Mirren.
Livingston, relegated from the Premiership this season, and Kilmarnock have artificial pitches but Killie plan to return to a grass surface in 2025.
Hamilton Academical, who have won promotion to the Championship, are the only other club to have used artificial turf in the top flight between 2008 and 2011 and from 2014 to 2021.
A league spokesperson said: “The SPFL board has granted a two-year period to allow clubs with an artificial pitch to plan for the phasing out of artificial pitches in the top tier of Scottish football.
“The SPFL board recently approved plans for a Premiership-wide project to work with a leading pitch consultancy firm, which is regularly used by Uefa, to improve the standards of grass pitches in the cinch Premiership.
“The SPFL will be engaging with Premiership clubs on this project ahead of the new season.”
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off the top of my head, we lost twice to kilmarnock last season,
other two defeats were to hearts.
i recall us getting beat twice at Livi, but is is some years ago,
but against both these teams i recall several absolute hammerings to them in their own pitches.
i dont rememebr us getting beat at hamilton ever,
and we once lost on plastic in the infamous cup game
is that it ?
anyone recall an injury to a celtic player that kept them out long temm ?
and then this happened –
Kilmarnock 0 celtic 5.
Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers: “Our performance level was immense. Everything I want in the team, technique, speed, power, mobility, creativity, it was all there.
“Overall, it was a brilliant team performance and a great way to clinch the title. We wanted to sprint over the line and we went over it really quickly tonight.”
The guy called “Fergie”, Accies fan I think, had a high decibel level, coupled with his passion for limited vocabulary, found him banned from home matches on many occasions…
St. Stiv’s
There’s no scientific evidence to state that more injuries occur on plastic or on grass, however, many a pro has said that their joints feel stiffer after 90 minutes on a hard surface. Anyone with a recurring untreated problem, Like CCV, and to and extent, Craig Gordon, before him were reluctant to be exposed to the surface.
Yes – most of our younger players will have grown up with many hours on artificial turf- they can clearly survive it but can they thrive on it?
I stand by my view that you rarely see the levels of flair and slick passing on artificial surfaces that you do on grass.
Now- games can be boring on either surface but- can you cite a memorable game of classy football on artificial turf? We can point to our 5:0 win at Rugby park but that was a memorable result rather than a memorable game. Most of our time down there has consisted of narrow scrappy wins interspersed with a higher level of dropped points than we experienced on other domestic away games on grass.
I expect we will win tomorrow in an enthralling low scoring game with the result in doubt throughout. The goals scored will come from a deflected shot from outside the box, or an attempted dribble where you get a lucky break of the ball, a long clearance which bounces awkwardly and a defender gets bullied, or a pinball sequence after a set piece where someone gets a toe poke trickler, or a Kilmasonic penalty, of course.
What we won’t see is a 20 plus uninterrupted passing move finished by a precise pass and clean shot. Those are rarer than Rosay beads at Ibrox.
unenthralling low score game
It’s the possibility of the unknown “bounce back” of the ball on artificial surfaces that causes the most problems as far as I’m concerned. Any player anticipating where the balls trajectory “should” go can sometimes be thwarted by the unnatural bounce that occurs on synthetic surfaces causing them to unnaturally turn their knee, ankle or hip when following the ball. Definitely a no no for me…
Could have worded that better, but you get my drift….
Highlights of the 5:0 game from 2 years ago.
A great shot by Jota but plenty of pinball goals. Look at the sequence at 3.04- where Abada robs the slipping keeper and then slips himself- that’s what you get.
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Kilmarnock+0+Celtic+5+highlights&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:e563c20d,vid:DhW-opi_ruI,st:0
Firstly let me say that I believe that all top level clubs should have grass pitches.
But what intrigues me is how some who as soon as a Killie away game is in the offing want certain players pulled out(rested)in case of injury.
Let’s take any ten year period with Kilmarnock hosting nineteen games per season – 190 matches. Each visiting club has 20 players ready for action – that’s a grand total of 3800 bodies involved.
How many have actually been injured directly because of the surface at Rugby Park – one, two, three? I don’t know but it must be an infinitesimal number.
Let’s get our strongest out tomorrow, put the game to bed and make changes on the hour. HH
No rugby spoilers thank you.
Heading home to watch it from the start 👍
The more recent 5:0 under Brendan was better- 3 goals from Fast wingers getting to the by-line for cut backs and 2 precision shots by Matt O’Riley but the disallowed offside Killie goal is the typical build-up you see there. Great finish but started by a long ball with our CB bullied.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nflDKQGIS4
great football , great team goals, outstanding individual skills,
as to tomorrow, just play to our strenght, plastic pitch doesnt matter we still have the better players.
Kilmarnock 0-5 Celtic | Incredible acrobatic goals send Celtic top of the table | cinch Premiership
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhW-opi_ruI
celtic to win by 3 tomorrow, our game average.
and another clean sheet. for the best defence in the league.
taylor announcement imminent ?
aff oot, can i get anyone anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDm7D9JprsI
if you are at a loose end, this is worth a watch to pass the time.
Scotland Tonight The Downfall Of Rangers 2012
SAINT STIVS on 9TH NOVEMBER 2024 3:43 PM
celtic to win by 3 tomorrow, our game average.
and another clean sheet. for the best defence in the league.
taylor announcement imminent?
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Yes on all three for me HH
Lawrence Shankland “looked like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders” when reflecting on his missed chances against Heidenheim on Thursday, says former Scotland striker Kris Boyd. (Scottish Sun)
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To me – the lad does indeed look like he is carrying the weight of the world …..
…. but not on his shoulders.
As any fule k now
There are injuries….
And then…..there are injuries…
Back to Basics
Re Shankland
And to think there was a ‘would you take him’ convo on these pages.laughable.
He is at the right club for him imo
HH
We’ve seen it all :-
Grass,. Long, short.
Mud
Sand
Baked
Bald
Straw
Waterlogged
Plastic / synthetic
Turf
Hybrid. ( various )
Grass mixed with 3% artificial fibre.
Red Ask
Black ash
Concrete
Gravel
Dutch grass. Tee Hee.
2G, 3G, 4G, 5G and even 6G.
SIS.
Plastic pitches, naw. Think of the kids. I used to make loads of dosh clearing leaves from the pitch, in fact i was raking it in.
HH.
Celtic II 5 Broxburn Athletic 0
57 minutes
PS That is NOT Celtic 115 !!
Big Matt a sub for Brighton. Good luck young fella 👍
ERATIC on 9TH NOVEMBER 2024 8:51 AM
HAIRLIKESPAGHETTI on 9TH NOVEMBER 2024 7:28 AM
Yes …was not quite sure where the blog was heading last night, so think a lot of people probably took your advice. I would just like to reiterate what I said yesterday.
The Ajax fans and Amsterdam police are renowned for causing trouble. This is not a new thing it has been going for years, the Dutch authorities know that..
*aye and so does the demagogue who is hell bent in destroying Palestine, this just suits his agenda and no a hidden one at that.
I was just explaining this tae mrs tt that ajax are reckoned to be the jewish side over there, but what is so disconcerting is that the us news and now Canadian ones are labelling it anti semitic.
MAESTRO on 9TH NOVEMBER 2024 10:36 AM
I get my news feeds via X formerly twitter and that’s were the truth can be found not on Sky or Itv or bbc I suggest you try it fellas.
*whit it has just been proven that it was his fabricatin of the truth that swung the election where he also made 2.6 billion off of it, billionaires that now want to be trillionaires.