Failing up in football

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European football news this week featured Vincent Kompany “failing up”.  After overseeing Burnley’s relegation from the topflight of English football, the affable Belgian was appointed manager of Bayern Munich.  Charm gets you places, people!

Hot on the heels of that, the Newco chief executive James Bisgrove handed in his resignation, he’s off to work his magic in Saudi.  If Bisgrove ever gives a seminar on job interview technique, sign up.  This is the guy who, as commercial director, booked Newco at the Sydney tournament in 2022 for less than half the fee Celtic’s commercial director, Adrian Filby, negotiated.

Newco are both delighted at Bisgrove’s work in his various roles at the club, and totally OK that he’s moving on.  Suggestions that churning through three managers and three chief execs in 18 months is a sign of a club in perpetual crisis is unworthy of you.

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  1. !!Bada Bing!! on

    SFTB- Agree,I think Taylor is on 9k a week, but 1k a week not a great offer (I know I know)

  2. Just noticed on Facebook CRC’s daughter, Caitlin, has qualified as a doctor. What a brilliant achievement from a brilliantly talented family. Many Congratulations to one and all!

  3. bournesouprecipe on

    If you can’t come close to first team wages elsewhere then there’s no chance you can offer young players outwith the first team pool the same as peers get in the richest league in the world. Feruz, Dembele, Doak Vata all have agents promising more than poor Celtic can afford in the wee diddy league.

     

     

    Some of them will go some of them won’t, we await the young ‘superstar’ that moved on from Celtic before he hit the first team?

  4. THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 2ND JUNE 2024 1:45 PM

     

     

    you are missing the point,

     

     

    it is not my vision, that would imply i have some sort of ownership, i do not.

     

     

    take the emotion out of it, look at it purely as a set of business and financial numbers.

     

     

    simply the business has finite capacity, but is over subscribed, it has a waiting list of, dare i say it, younger, fitter, potentially wealthier persons waiting in the wings,

     

     

    Celtic plc will come under pressure at some point, from these people, to let them in, and from “owners” to maximise turnover.

     

     

    I like how everybody puts up the communion/illness rationale for not going.

     

     

    those one off events or short term illness does not explain the same seats empty at every game.

     

     

    Use it or lose it, it will come to pass, I am convinced of that.

     

     

    As an aside, each of the BATTLE FOR CELTIC podcasts, have been very informative, and for me, I recall much of the events, and then i still learned a lot from the horses mouths.

     

     

    Gerry Dunbar from not the view was very good, I will miss quote this but when asked about are you happy with how it is run today his response was something along the lines of …………..

     

     

    I doubt Fergus is happy with it all, the ownership model, we are back at the start, the owners own it and take the best seats, the shareholders have their shares certificates, maybe on the wall, but that is all they are shareholders, doing nothing because they lost interest.

  5. Celtic – 2023 Player Wages

     

    Celtic have a total of 71 players in their home squad. Celtic play in the cinch Premiership, the highest division of football in Scotland.

     

    Celtic total wage bill for 2023 is:

     

    £22,119,240 per year

     

    £425,370 per week

     

    The highest earning player in the squad is Callum McGregor earning £37,000 per week.

     

     

    https://salarysport.com/football/scottish-premiership/celtic/

  6. Tottenham Hotspur – 2023 Player Wages

     

    Tottenham Hotspur have a total of 76 players in their home squad. Tottenham Hotspur play in the Premier League, the top tier of English football (soccer).

     

    Tottenham Hotspur total wage bill for 2023 is:

     

    £142,192,960 per year

     

    £2,734,480 per week

     

    The highest earning player in the squad is Heung-Min Son earning £197,000 per week

  7. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    WEEBOBBYCOLLINS @ 10:22 AM

     

     

    “Rangers’ new signing Jefte “could play for Real Madrid in the future”, according to former Ibrox winger Dalcio…”

     

     

    Here we go again…we should just give them the close-season cup now.

     

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    Yip.

     

     

    Not so long ago Ryan Kent was £50m rated and could play for Real Madrid.

     

     

    As for this “new Pelé”?

     

     

    I’m old enough to remember Oldco’s new Pelé, Thomas Madigage.

  8. Ben Doak,

     

     

    there was a lot of fuss made about him leavign, allegedly Celtic would not pay him the going rate, allegedly.

     

     

    What was ignored, that Klippety Klopp himself had put a celing in for academy players wages around £40k PER YEAR.

     

    That is what Ben earned when he movednot multiples of thousands, sure that could be written into the contract with progression,, but not while he started in the academy structure.

     

     

    How much do we now thing this oven cooking star is getting now ?

     

     

    According to Salary it is £3,500 per week.

     

     

    Why would spurs pay a celtic youth 9k.

  9. bournesouprecipe on

    Tom

     

     

    There was no Scottish Cup final redemption for VAR, if that’s what your post implied, unless you’ve been influenced by Super Sally, ultimately through a law of averages VAR failed to be able to manoeuvre R’2gers over the league or cup winning line, despite all its brass necked baw baggery throughout 23/24 which led them to their…….. treble challenge

     

     

    John Beaton didn’t morph into a neutral judge at IBrokes for a rescinded red for simulation to a game changing penalty, by accident, the Ben Davies handball had it been our player would have been the subject of a VAR review in any other game taken by Beaton. The Kyogo foul in the box should also have been reviewed, not to mention the Walsh patched assaults on O’Riley and others.

     

     

    Unless you’re in the Joe Hart “wasn’t getting it” anyway school of thought.

  10. SAINT STIVS @2:36pm

     

     

    Something not right, the facts would be appreciated.

  11. SS

     

    Got to love some of the sites wonder where they get the figures from……dart board maybe.🎯🎯

  12. The sports salary website I would say is pretty accurate.

     

     

    Many clubs have football department salary in the accounts and the totals seem correct to me.

     

     

    I did draw breadth other weeks on how r2ngers was higher than Celtic

  13. !!Bada Bing!! on

    SS- I heard Doaks first contract at Liverpool was 9k a week, and he’s signed an improved deal since

  14. Various internet sources including Sport Salary, Capology and Liverpool,

     

     

    Ben Doak

     

     

    At liverpool

     

     

    aged 17 – academy contract – £900 per week, capped.

     

     

    aged 17 1/2 – promoted – first team appearances – £3,500 pw, as stated in sport salary.

     

     

    aged 18yj,nov23, – “reserve” – £15,000 per week, 1 year during only then review,

     

     

     

    he has only played 12 total games for celtic or liverpool.

     

     

    if he does well at euros great, i dont think he will.

     

     

    where did i put the feruz at blackpool article,

     

     

    how if that other bhoy doing at queens park munich ?

     

     

    vata, kelly, cheerio.

  15. Ben Doak arrived at Liverpool FC from Celtic in the summer of 2022 and signed his first professional contract with the club in November of that year.

     

     

    A fast and direct winger, Doak impressed for Liverpool’s U18s, U19s and U21s in his first season with the club, netting 10 goals and providing numerous assists.

     

     

    The Scotland U21 international was rewarded with a senior debut for the Reds as a substitute in the Carabao Cup third-round win over Derby County – an appearance that came two days before his 17th birthday.

     

     

    Doak went on to make his first Premier League outing off the bench at Aston Villa on Boxing Day, and totalled five games under Jürgen Klopp during 2022-23.

     

     

    After impressing in the 2023-24 pre-season, the attacker penned a new long-term deal with the club.

  16. Apart from Andy Robertson, who left at 12/13 I think, are there any other’s that have gone that we’d now regret?

     

     

    Shay Given probably another.

  17. Ronaldo played for st comvals and we missed him,

     

     

    round about the sametime, messi was at the atonine.

     

     

    laweell scouting wot dun it

  18. Attending Parkhead is a voluntary enjoyment.

     

     

    Many buy and retain season tickets as an act of faith with the club they have supported since the cradle.

     

    Our ST base is vast in geography and supporters regularly travel huge distancë on a regular basis to attend.

     

    This is the nature and attraction of Celtic. The essence of being more than just a club. We have historical context for that overused phrase and want to belong.

     

    Tickets have been passed down in generations.

     

     

    Many supporters cannot make every single game. Work, travel, family, illness, weather, cost etc etc. However in general we give our tickets to friends and family when unable to attend..

     

    But there will be occasions when the seat remains empty.

     

     

    The thought of attendance police monitoring each visitation and demandiing attendance, or else is against the very ethos of Celtic FC.

     

     

    Generally I am against compulsion. To force long standing fans to attend or threaten them is wrong. It is not a healthy motivating factor.

     

     

    This is something that reeks of football fascism.

     

     

    To those who continually moan about not being able to attend. Then make a f#cking effort and use vehicles like Celtic spares on Facebook and X.

     

    Tickets are available for most games if you get off the couch and exercise a wee bit of time and effort.

     

     

    HH.

  19. But there will be occasions when the seat remains empty.

     

     

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    aye 1,800 of them every game.

     

     

    not challenging the status quo, talking as if handing a season ticket down as some sort of birthright, all very kelly, white and grant, i paid my money year after year, yadda yadda yadda.

     

     

    i have my season book how dare anyone question if i use it or not ………….

     

     

    i should make an effort to get off the couch and go source a ticket every match ,,,,,,,,,,,

     

     

    says someone with a ticket they dont use or ever pass on,

     

     

    gies peace.

  20. Generally I am against compulsion. To force long standing fans to attend or threaten them is wrong. It is not a healthy motivating factor.

     

     

    they are not long standing, they are sitting in the hoose, the pub, far flung corners of the globe, waiting on the next big game they are home for.

  21. Hi Bhoy’s ,

     

    I’m arguing with a hun that we are still the same company with the same company registration number since incorporation .

     

    He sends me this .

     

     

    Answers on a postcard please.

     

     

     

    Andrew Hugh Watt Original 1897

     

    Celtic plc – company number SC003487, incorporated in 1897, formerly called The Celtic Football and Athletic Company Limited

     

     

    Newco 1994

     

    The Celtic Football and Athletic Company Limited – company number SC153534, incorporated in 1994, formerly called Pacific Shelf 595 Limited

     

     

    Newco 2001

     

    Celtic FC Limited – company number SC223604, incorporated in 2001, formerly called HMS (402) Limited

     

     

    TT

  22. THE_HUDDLE on 2ND JUNE 2024 3:46 PM

     

    Apart from Andy Robertson, who left at 12/13 I think, are there any other’s that have gone that we’d now regret?

     

     

    Shay Given probably another

     

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    Can’t think of any. A contract of £1,000/week for an 18 year old (structured to climb depending on appearances etc.) ain’t too bad, as far as I’m concerned. I don’t get any young guy leaving, without contributing, if they really are a Celtic supporter.

  23. I don’t mind the youngsters chasing the money, just seems daft to blame the club for something they don’t really have any control over.

     

     

    Would be different if we were releasing players we didn’t rate, who then went onto big things, but that doesn’t happen.

     

     

    Celtic have done well progressing academy players into the first team.

  24. bournesouprecipe on

    The digital age is catching up with Celtic and its unique quaint ‘give your ticket to somebody else’ if you’re not going system. The club won’t be able to turn a blind eye as it does now, when ST’s go fully digital, next season.

     

     

    This season did ‘poor home game fayre’ or produce result in more communions, weddings etc, etc and their empty seats.

  25. TT,

     

     

    you are being led to argue the wrong thing.the wrong method.

     

     

    A company overtime can change its ownership model, in Celtic case it was moved from being a limited liabilited company (ltd) tp a PLC.

     

     

    Ask the dobber when the LTD was put into administration, then liquidated ?

     

     

    postcard answer – it was not.

     

     

    Accointancy laws – it became a PLC, that was it, end of.

     

     

    CELTIC PLC

     

    Company number SC003487

  26. THE RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED

     

    Company number SC425159

     

     

    Previous company names

     

    Previous company names

     

    Name Period

     

    SEVCO SCOTLAND LIMITED 29 May 2012 – 31 Jul 2012

  27. RFC 2012 Plc (in liquidation) (formerly The Rangers Football Club Plc) (Appellant) v Advocate General for Scotland (Respondent) (Scotland)

     

    Judgment date

     

    5 Jul 2017

     

     

    Neutral citation number

     

    [2017] UKSC 45

     

     

    Case ID

     

    UKSC 2016/0073

     

     

    Justices

     

    Lord Neuberger, Lady Hale, Lord Reed, Lord Carnwath, Lord Hodge

  28. still deid

     

     

    —————–

     

     

    Registered office address

     

    C/O Bdo Llp, 2 Atlantic Square, 31 York Street, Glasgow, G2 8NJ

     

    Company status

     

    Liquidation

     

    Company type

     

    Public limited Company

     

    Incorporated on

     

    27 May 1899

     

    Accounts overdue

     

    Next accounts made up to 30 June 2011

     

    due by 31 December 2011

     

     

    Last accounts made up to 30 June 2010

     

     

    Confirmation statement overdue

     

    First statement date 27 January 2017

     

    due by 10 February 2017

     

     

    Annual return overdue

     

    Last annual return made up to 27 January 2012

     

     

    Nature of business (SIC)

     

    93120 – Activities of sport clubs

     

    Previous company names

     

    Previous company names

     

    Name Period

     

    THE RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB P.L.C. 27 May 1899 – 31 Jul 2012