As the darkest clouds descend over Ibrox with news that medals in their trophy room have been poinded by sheriff officers, sentiment in our half of the city is no brighter. Celtic’s best chance to win the league this season lies not in outpointing everyone else, or seeing their principle rivals lose 10 points, it is in the complete obliteration of Rangers, allowing us to take our chances with Motherwell, who can open up a six point gap between second and third against Celtic on Sunday.
Whatever the following weeks bring for Rangers, if Celtic winning the league is a consequence, we cannot allow the title to disguise the abject failure to be competitive so far this season.
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The likelihood is, that on Saturday, Rankers will go 15 points clear of us.
On Sunday, nothing less than a win will do.
Should we not win on Sunday, how many will still support Neil 14/15 pts behind?
Not me.
Saltires,
Great wee post. In so many ways it is that amazing scene that a full CP creates that defines Celtic. The buzz when we all pull together is like no other club. Right now it doesn’t feel like that, and the circumstances this time aren’t the same as the days of 15k in 1994. Sure we were angry then, but not with the players. They still got the support.
Brinalackbhoy,
Worthy contribution. Good to see you stick up for someone, and lend a little perspective. CQN veering towards clique’s at times.
That said I tend to take BelfastCityCelts view that investment can go two ways and we have a frightening example of the wrong way on our doorstep.
It would be good if the Celtic community could really talk about this issue. Because we do need to invest more and we do need to get an awful lot more from our existing investments. I think it’s understandable that the board would be a little shy of a gamble (which could prove disastrous to the PLC) when so many of our recent ‘gambles’ have backfired.
We can’t keep tearing ourselves apart over it. There are a rump of fans who want things they simply will not get from any PLC board, in the current climate – what they want is more akin to oil money and no public listing. Me, I’ll take our chances with the PLC, because I think the oil money will disappear and those toy clubs will be lucky to survive it. As for the Rangers route – never, it is cheating, and when all is said and done, I want their to be a club in 100 years that can lay claim to its own history.
I do think we can be demanding fans and understanding at the same time. I also think if we fail to understand we’re going to tear down the walls of CP in pursuit of the impossible.
Eyes Wide Open says:
1 November, 2011 at 09:40
Did we not try that under Tony Mowbray? Sure,we won a European game,away from home,in Moscow,if i remember correctly.
We also played with five players in attack,that fateful night at St.Mirren immediately springs to mind.Spurs played that way under Ardilles,it was good to watch,not very successful all the same,but entertaining.
I thought that we played reasonably well in Madrid – we just shot ourselves in the foot,as always.In saying that,their “mediocre” 40million Euro striker had a part to play in our downfall.
BelfastCityCelt says:
1 November, 2011 at 09:31
I am as happy as the next bhoy about the troubles of der hun.
However to have a business startegy which is just based on the demise of your chief rival is dangerous.
Yes you may walk onto an uncontested market place and have success but only if your existing fundementals are sound.
I believe we lack startegic vision, leadership and have a flawed recruitment policy.
Until we sort these hoping the huns go bust is fun but not a business strategy.
Hail Hail
corrected
I want there to be a club in 100 years that can lay claim to its own history.
mickbhoy1888
And good riddance to them.
Nothing worse than glory hunters.
Why don’t you join them.
MWD
The fact of the matter is Neil Lennon is still our manager we know he is struggling you only have to watch his body language in the dug out as he watches his team struggle.However, he desrves our support as Celtic fans we really should be faithfull through and through.If and when either Lennie walks away or the board decide to change managers that is the time to back a new man.Currently Lennie and his management team still have the chance to pull the team out of there mediocrity.H.H.
I see RM have a poll asking members if they think they will go into admin and 75% say “No”
Boy this is gonna sting.
Joe Filippis Haircut says:
1 November, 2011 at 10:00
Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, my friend.
Slan_Abhaile……..BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE says:
1 November, 2011 at 09:54
Me
Sian Abhaile So who do you have in mind to replace our current manager? H.H.
goldstar10 says:
1 November, 2011 at 10:03
Why?
Pardon me for jumping in.
I agree that the off field strategy of little or no spend has contributed to the ‘impending’ four in a row, but disagree on the ATTACK theory.
In fact it’s the attack policy that has caused the mess in the SPL, just like it did for Tony Mowbray before him.
The basis of your theory requires better players than Celtic have, at present regardless its seems of the perceived mediocrity of opposition e.g. St Johnstone at Celtic Park, Kilmarnock at Rugby Park.
Your way has been tried and failed, it’s failing again in dramatic fashion because we don’t have the players to be a Barca, we’re much more like West Bromich Albion, who attacked in the EPL and got relegated, when Big Tony despite best advice, wouldn’t change. ( Sadly he still got the Celtic gig).
When NL took over my main hope was that he’d immediately change that mindset – he hasn’t and he is paying the cost because he hasn’t put in the the building blocks on which to base an attacking game.
We instead have tried at least 14 or 15 differing back fours, with all variations of personnel available and every team (including SPL fodder) has exploited a flawed attack minded system, because any variation isn’t a good enough.
We are obsessed with buying strikers, and midfielders and think it’s o.k. to get a loan of a Keeper, (no offence to FF) and miss out on buying the best quality we can afford in defence.
That is the basis of our current predicament.
Last post was for Eyes Wide Open
Joe Filippis Haircut says:
1 November, 2011 at 10:03
Sian Abhaile So who do you have in mind to replace our current manager? H.H.
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I honestly don’t know. Sorry. But there are well paid people at CP to have their finger on the pulse.
ECW67 – I’m busy until Wednesday – I assume you’ll be ok holding the fort on your own until then?
On a serious note, I know some people are advocating playing the kids on Thursday – I’m not sure – a heavy defeat at an unhappy Celtic Park could set them back in thier development. Instead, I’d pick a team of reliable (or as reliable as we have) grafters and tell them that Thursday is thier chance to stake a claim for Sunday – I’d even be tempted to include Kayal for this one, but not Hooper or Ki (He really needs a rest) or Commons (needs match fitness – stick him on the bench if fit) – tell Kayal this is his chance to prove he is worth his new contract, otherwise, he’ll move toward the nech – and someone else said it earlier – remind him how close the bench is to the door!
So, team for Thursday:
Foster
Matthew
Rogne
Loovens
Mulgrew
Kayal
Wanyama
Ledley
Forrest
Stokes
Samaras
Dor Sunday – Loovens out El Khadouri in – then give that team a run of games (assuming they do perform) and set the challenge to Hooper, Commons, K, Bangura, Mastorovic to get back in!
mickbhoy1888 says:
1 November, 2011 at 09:52
I think that it is best that we just agree to disagree.
No point getting into an argument over it,but no one is putting a gun to your head and making you support Celtic.
You have your opinions,and i have mine.
League Cup Semi draw this afternoon.
Sian Abhaile Sorry fella but that is a poor answer if you cannot think of anyone better than our current manager you should be supporting the current manager. I like you have doubts about Lennie and his management team but as long as they are in situ I will support them.H.H.
thomtheleedstim
RM Poll
Do you think Rangers will go into administration. (Please select one of the following 2 options).
a) No
b) Not Sure.
BSR
I basically agree. Defence is usually the first priority of a good manager. That said, fundamentally, the SPL is failing because no team can succesfully adopt a passing game in the face of poor quality pitches, lax refereeing (too many hard challenges go unpunished) and direct football which can only succeed at lower levels.
I heard Strachan talking about that this week. Quality in the EPL improved largely because of better playing surfaces and tougher standards in the tackle.
Philvisreturns
A hack
BTW could you possibly extract the hand from your posterior that is working you as your puppet impersonation is not very original
It seems that we will have some say in the punishment meted out to the hun, once they go belly-up.
Some say a 25 points deduction for this and the next couple of seasons. I say this is nowhere near enough!
For a start, we should insist that all hun players must be Jesuitically educated and have passable Irish.
Second, they must be made to play in a light pink frilly maid’s uniform, complete with tricolour feather-duster and torn fishnets.
Third, the huns must be made to run out at Greyskull to the sound of the early Pogues.
Fourth, Greyskull must be painted the brightest day-glo green.
Fifth, they must concede a penalty in the first minute of every game.
I don’t think these demands to be unreasonable.
If they don’t like it, they can always go bust.
Let’s play hard ball!
Bourne;
c) is there a qualifying round?
Mickybhoy
Happy for you to critics the Board and where appropriate team and manager. I’m an arch critic… But you lost me last night with the Paedo accusations to other bloggers.
I know you just want a better Celtic..we all do
CB
BelfastCityCelt
Will be in Belfast on the 19th the day we play ICT away , can you recommend a safe pub to watch the game , I am staying in the Hilton but obviously can get a taxi to wherever you think would be best .
Sorry – was in response to MWD.
BT
Happy 60th old yin
enjoy
mickbhoy1888 – BTW could you possibly extract the hand from your posterior that is working you as your puppet impersonation is not very original
Classic taxi driver banter. (thumbsup)
I couldn’t put a finger on it about what this blog reminded me of
But I have it now
It’s like a punch and judy show with so many posters pulling each others strings
Would it be unreasonable to bring in Roy Aitken as a Defensive Coach (and de facto assistant manager) for the rest of the season – an experienced head among the inexperienced management team and played a large part in Birmingham City’s miserly goals against record – before he left and they got relegated!
I know how we all feel about the Daily Record, but fair play, that’s a cracker of a story they’re leading with online.
mickbhoy1888 – It’s like a punch and judy show
Does that mean you’re Joey the Clown? (thumbsup)
earnie lynch
if its that good copy & paste it.
Let’s not give them website hits.
MWD
@ Spidey – good idea, the bear would be a real asset as well as a much-needed old-school injection to Paradise
So overcome by apathy
bye bye
ernie
whats the story, i don’t go to their site