I am sure Neil Doncaster’s job is full of stresses and strains but this week will probably be a breeze. Fans of every club in the league appear to be in uproar at the resolutions for an Insolvency Transfer Event to be voted on later this month. Infuriating everyone is surely better than infuriating most but leaving one group happy.
Fans of 11 SPL clubs have reacted in horror that the league seek to introduce a facility to allow a liquidated club to phoenix straight back into the top tier of Scottish football. Fans of Rangers, while along with administrators and bidders for the club are publicly opposed to liquidation, are outraged that this new facility to allow a new club entry to the SPL should carry a sporting and financial inhibitor.
For clarification: the inhibitor is there to ensure clubs have a modicum of moral hazard against gaining an unfair advantage before ditching creditors and their old skins, and emerging in the SPL with player registrations from another club but without the debts or consequences of mismanagement.
Rangers US and Singapore based bidders seem unperturbed by the proposals. Paul Murray’s Blue Knights consortium has curiously lost its tongue. Maybe this helps explain all those years when the EBTs were unopposed by the former Rangers board. Silence, not even an utterance!
There remains three possible outcomes to this issue:
The proposed SPL resolutions will be passed, allowing a Newco straight entry to the League.
The resolutions will fail and the SPL board will vote a Newco into the league anyway.
The resolutions will fail and the SPL board will deny Newco a place in the league.
Celtic Quick News first flagged this scenario in October last year when we predicted Newco would be given a parachute into the SPL, opposed only by Celtic. As the key resolution (2A) requires only 8 votes I still expect this to happen, despite the ‘Bring it on’ view of many Rangers fans to the prospect of starting again from Division Three.
As the financial penalty resolution (2B) requires 11 votes I expect this to fail and no financial penalties to be imposed.
The question for Kilmarnock, Dunfermline, St Mirren, Inverness, Motherwell, St Johnstone, Hibs and Kilmarnock (don’t tell me they’ll not try to get two votes, they have a huge mountain of debt to service and have every right to demand two votes) is, will they listen to their fans or their bank manager?
Dundee United and Hearts, like North Korea, appear convinced of their own superior wisdom and, like a North Korean missile, could head off in any random direction to demonstrate their contempt for clubs scared of providing satirists with material. They could easily vote themselves into a Gorgie-Tannadice League, if they could agree on a Gorgie-Tannadice/Tannadice-Gorgie naming convention.
For now, if you care about any of this, participate in the online SPL Fan Survey. We’ll soon find out who runs Scottish football, fans or the Bank of Scotland! One additional point about democracy, it carries responsibility. In this instance, stopping Newco means fans of all remaining clubs have to step forward in increasing numbers to buy season tickets. This is the cost of sporting integrity.
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Ole Dick rubbed some of his cream into the ole bhardwaj, with incendiary results.
Kit – I shall give the ole w/up liquid tip a go this weekend.
Celtic captain Scott Brown requires a fitness test, but manager Neil Lennon expects the midfielder to face Hearts in their Scottish Cup semi-final.
Victor Wanyama is now free from suspension and Thomas Rogne is available again following injury, but James Forrest has a long-term problem.
Jamie Hamill misses out for Hearts, but winger David Templeton is available for the first time since February.
Andy Webster should be fit, but four other players are injury doubts.
Strikers Craig Beattie and Stephen Elliott and midfielders Mehdi Taouil and Adrian Mrowiec are all struggling to make the game against the newly crowned Scottish champions at Hampden.
Hearts have nine players walking a suspension tightrope, although manager Paulo Sergio has urged them to focus only on Sunday’s game and not on the possibility of missing out on the final should the Edinburgh side get there.
Captain Marius Zaliukas, Rudi Skacel, Andrew Driver, Darren Barr, Danny Grainger, Scott Robinson, David Templeton, Suso Santana and Jordan Morton are all in danger of being suspended for the final should they pick up a second yellow card of the competition.
Hearts go into the game on the back of two straight wins as they chase European qualification spots in the Scottish Premier League.
They have lost only one of their last seven games, with the 2-0 quarter-final replay win over St Mirren in Paisley being one of five victories after a 2-2 draw.
The Edinburgh side will take confidence from their 2-0 win over Celtic in October, but that came before Lennon’s side went on a long unbeaten run that allowed them to overtake reigning champions Rangers and clinch the title last weekend.
It is the first Scottish Cup meeting between the sides since 10 April 2005, when Celtic won 2-1 to reach the final, where they defeated Dundee United, after recording their 17th win in 23 meetings between the clubs in the country’s premier knock-out competition.
Celtic have bounced back with two victories following their surprise defeat by Kilmarnock in the Scottish Communities League Cup final and losing to Rangers in the Old Firm derby.
They arrive at Hampden on a high after securing the league title in style byr hammering Kilmarnock 6-0 at Rugby Park.
Celtic manager Neil Lennon : “We gave the boys a couple of days off and then we were back into training on Wednesday.
“They were in great form and great spirits as you can imagine and, psychologically, winning the title will give them a huge lift.
“We have a big game on Sunday obviously. We are back preparing for that as best we can.”
Hearts winger Andy Driver : “We’ve got a chance of going out there and causing an upset.
“We’ve got a young team and a lot of the boys haven’t been to Hampden.
“We’ve got the kind of players that won’t get overawed by the occasion.
“Hopefully, it’ll bring out the best in our team and we can go there and get the result we really want.
“They have just won the league, they’ve proved to be the best team in the country this year.
“We haven’t had a bad record against Celtic in the past few years.
“We know we can do it. It’s just about if we perform on the day, that’s all we need to concentrate on. It’s not about Celtic, it’s about how we perform.
“The last time we played against them, we got played off the park, so we’ve got to learn from the mistakes we made in that game.”
Is Craig Beattie Injured his full name??
Live from Princes Square Glasgow
We’ll veet again,
Don’t know where,
Don’t know when,
But I know we’ll veet again some sunny day.
Craig Beattie (IA)
Injured Again
NINE mini huns are on a yellow: a yellow card on Sunday means they miss the final (they miss the final anyway, but you get the drift).
SPL survey completed.
Comment:
I believe if any club is absolved of millions of pounds of debt and taxpayers money it is criminal. Any governing body which condones such an act is equally so. Scottish football deserves to be run honestly, fairly and in an efficient manner. I have neither heard nor read anything from either the SFA or SPL that convinces me this is happening.
NegAnon2 on 13 April, 2012 at 15:25 said:
67 heaven – while I know Paul tells us how Celtic will vote I am becoming increasingly concerned with the silence emanating from CP. Celtic should be screaming from the rooftops by now – and please dont excuse it all with us maintaining a dignified silence. Of all the clubs impacted by Rangers behaviour Celtic (and the supporters) are the hardest hit.
Perhaps they are awaiting for the outcome of the tax case – but when the SPL produced the drivel they have they HAVE to react to it.
The silence makes me doubt their intentions – and lets face it they dont give two hoots about us as supporters.
hey rocket man i see you are still spouting your usual cack i do hope you have been man enough to come on and apologise to neil and the board for them delivering the title for evermore TA.
Message from GL2
West highland way in the bag.
Now mind and do the survey.
http://www.splsurvey.co.uk/
MWD
theglasgowcelticway
Are you a hun???
JJB have raised a whopping £40,000 to support the gers.
How many hours of Duff&Duffers time does that cover?
What happened to the MILLIONS of bares all over the world?
They can’t all be on benefits…
HH
Henriks Sombrero
lol!
Raman is a stupid bun…
Everyone is agreed that all SPL club charman will view the effects of any newly constituted football club skipping 3 divisions and gaining direct entry to the Premier League from a selfish standpoint, i.e. “How will this financially impact on my club”?
For me though, as a fan, the pride of following my team, Celtic, encompasses the joy, the despair, the uncertainty, of events such as the 4-2 game in 79, Rapid Vienna, Paisley 86, Centenary 88, 9 barren years before stopping 10 in row, Fergus McCann, the Martin O’Neill era including Seville, losing leagues to Rangers at the last hurdle at Killie, Motherwell, Inverness, Tommy Burns death, Helicopter Thursday, and lastly, but not least, the shit that Neil lennon has to put with in this country simply by trying to be a successful Celtic manager.
These are the kind of memories and passions that we, as Celtic fans, currently share and which keep us buying the often unaffordable season tickets and branded goods that, in the modern era, are the only means by which we can hope to maintain current standards, let alone once again reaching the heady heights of european respectability.
Yes, of all SPL clubs, Celtic have most to lose, as previously forecastable revenue streams dry up because Celtic season ticket holders are only interested in the joy and despair that is part and parcel of competitive sport.
I hope and believe, as Paul has alluded, that the Celtic Board of Directors are only waiting on the right moment to say and do the right thing financially.
Clearly this facilitates, for the first time, an opportunity for a club to remain in the SPL whilst its owning company goes to the wall. This effectively means 2 routes for any aspiring company that wishes to run a football club.
1. No Specific Connection – Apply through the normal channels (rules as currently written)
2. Buy a concern that currently has a membership fo a football body (SPL) and is being liquidated. (this has happened in England quite often)
Route 1 appears to have universal support which is:
Start at the bottom and, if you get in, work your way up.
Route 2 is now being proposed by the SPL as a valid option to be voted upon.
This leads us to the interesting topic of both sporting and moral integrity.
Where a new company (or an old company it’s not that exclusive) seeks to use Route 2 should the new company bear any responsibility for the sins of the old company in achieving that status?
In standard company law terms there is no need for the new company to bear anything in a strictly business sense. However, we are here dealing with sporting and moral integrity, not commercial law. The govenors of sport can apply any rules they deem fit and proper for instant membership.
It seems that the vast consensus of opinion is that both sporting and moral integrity are important and should be not only recognised but enforced in some way.
The SPL resolutions also propose an option for quantifying sporting and moral integrity to be bourne by a new company in order to ‘inherit’ a membership.
The problem it would appear is that the quantification being proposed by the SPL does not appear to be in balance or commensurate and indeed might actually encourage amoral and unsporting behaviour, possibly enticing those under debt duress to act in ways that are not desired.
What is therefore needed is an amendment to the proposals currently being considered that delivers appropriate tarriffs so that any new company seeking to join in professional football in Scotland at the highest level with no previous football track record understands the value of sporting and moral integrity specifically because of the burden it would have to bear initially DIRECTLY LINKED to the sins of the company whose mebership they seek to inherit.
Whilst this is entirely outside commercial company law, requirements and approaches, it nevertheless delivers the sporting and moral compass required in this arena.
So…………
Here is my starter for 10 for an amendment to the proposals……..
The 10 year rule
The body (SPL) desires that previous failings of a club are FULLY recognised and FULLY reparated in recognisiton of maintaining sporting and moral integrity in the sport. It therefore offers any newco (via liquidation) a 10 year window to achieve full and final reparation for the sins of the other.
This will involve the creation of a football development trust who will receive installments of payments in advance of competition equal to the full and final audited debts owed by the offering club to be spread over a maximum of a 10 year period.
Example
It is estimated that the current RFC (IA) will likely owe £134m at liquidation. If no funds were provided to alleviate this on acquisition of the member share at liquidation the newco member would be required to pay to the development trust £13.4m per annum every year for 10 years prior to commencement of every league season.
This would result in an equivalent benefit to society equal to that lost in debt and demonstrates both sporting and moral integrity.
Further, for the period of time that the newco member still owes into this Trust it will only be allowed to expend to the value of its immediate income (that is, debarred from borrowing funds it cannot repay in year) in any competitive season.
There will be no points deductions whatsover as this affects sporting integrity.
This will result in confidence that the member club cannot repeat the sins of the dead predecessor and that full societal reparation is achieved whilst maintaining sporting integrity.
Should this seem onerous, any newco is still welcome to choose option 1 and commence negotiations via the SFA/SFL for a like in professional football.
The created Trust will invest in the development of youth football to the benefit of society as a whole.
I think that about covers it………………..
HH
Breaking News used to called a Newsflash on Black and White Telly.
Complete strangers who call you ‘Bud’
Pet hates CSC
Craig Whyte, the ultimate Sand Deliverer…
Jose approaches the Mexican border on his bicycle. Hanging from his shoulders he has two large, bulky bags.
The border patrol guard stops him and says, “Hey mister what ya got in those bags?”
“Just sand,” replied Jose.
The guard says, “OK get off the bike and we’ll take a look. Who carrys all that sand around?”
The guard takes the bags and emptys them on the ground and sure enough there’s nothing but sand.
However he is suspicious and so he detains Jose overnight while he gets the sand analysed. The next morning he receives the report that states that there is nothing but pure sand in the bags.
The guard has no choice but to release Jose and puts the sand into new bags, slings them onto the man’s shoulders, and waves him across the border.
A week later exactly the same thing happens. The guard asks, “What have you got in those bags?”
Jose replies “Sand.”
The guard performs the same examinations on the bags and discovers nothing but sand. Once again he gives the sand back to Jose who crosses the border on his bicycle.
This sequence of events if repeated every week for over a year until finally Jose stops showing up.
A few weeks later the guard bumps into Jose in a Cantina in a local village.
The guard approaches Jose and says , “What’s happend to you lately I haven’t seen you”.
Jose replies “That’s right I have finished the job I was doing.” “So what sort of job involves taking bags of sand over the border” asks the guard.
Jose sips at his beer and replies, “Smuggling bicycles!”
Good Ol Alex
Keep diggin
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/
Cracking Street entertainer belting out the rare auld times in Cleveleys, engerland….. The rebel liberties…. Better throw in a few pound :>)
V
Football. Sunday….
The one remaining major flaw in Neil’s team is……
Big games. Cup games.
Am I alone in not being totally gobsmacked if we don’t win against hertz?
Ronnie
Craig and Ally are in a bank waiting to be served, when suddenly armed robbers burst in.
Two of the robbers take the money from the tellers, while the other lines the customers, including Craig and Ally, up against a wall.
This third robber proceeds to take wallets, cash, watches and other valuables from the terrified customers.
All of a sudden Craig turns to Ally and says “Here take this”, as he stuffs something into his hand.
Without looking down, Ally says “What is it?”
Craig replies, “It’s that £500 I owe you.”
Audheid-Alex Thomson-“it was as much a casino as a football club. ” Brilliant.
bournesouprecipe on 13 April, 2012 at 16:12 said:
“Breaking News used to called a Newsflash on Black and White Telly”
…with the drawback that they always interrupted the programme you were watching
Curiously enough, the words were always the same “We interrupt this programme to bring you this newsflash”. The first one I remember was JFK’s assasssination. I was watching “Take Your Pick” in my granny’s….not my choice since I was only 6.
Good luck to Fleetwood town tonight who are on a 27 game unbeaten run in the league and can win it, the manager is a Celt.
They had Celtic down a few months ago ……
V
And the walls came a tumbling down…
In public UEFA can do little more than pledge support to the SFA and Rangers. In private they are angry and embarrassed at the unfolding Rangers mess. Rangers, frankly, is a big blot on their landscape.
Not least, because the club was of course the first in Scotland to get a licence in 2003 for – amongst other things – financial good housekeeping, when as we now know it was as much a casino as a football club. All this in now unfolding, UEFA know and they are unamused.
And along with financial fair play comes political interference which has seen FIFA – football’s world governing body – take strong action against some member countries with meddling politicians.
The question of Scottish politicians getting involved with both the taxman and administrators over Rangers was described to me as “difficult and complex” by UEFA’s press office on the record. So difficult and complex that I’ve waited three days to get any answer and have thus far failed. Away from their press office one official spoke on condition of anonymity and said “we are concerned, we have all this in our sights but the key agency here is the SFA.”
Rene Adler, Milan Badelj and Joaquin Bogosshain my targets for the summer.
Where’s John Park and Lenny ?
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Brnobhoy
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/
When does embarrasment become a scandal?
When does shame force the truth into the open?
When are folk going to stop pretending this is just another club in trouble for overspending?
That this is about morality is beginning to dawn in the mainstream, but it is going beyond that.
It is moving into trust in governance
In SFA governance
In UEFA governance
In Scottish Government governanace
and something needs to be done pdq to start restoring that trust.
The SPL proposals, quaintly using 1984 doublespeak of Financial Fair Play, when they are the opposite is a really, really bad start.
Bring on the Hearts.
After such an amazing performance last week I hope we can continue in that kind of form.
We will have to overcome the referee as usual (Norris is shockingly biased) but if we play like we did first half last week he will not get the chance to influence the game.
We must start the game strong and maintain it until we break Hearts. :) I hope the lads go out there and really enjoy the game and put on a Champion show. There must be a real Buzz about the place now and the Cup and the last game against the hun is where it is all at now.
I don’t know the latest team information but Victor will surely come in this week and I’m expecting him to get back to his awesome form from when he made himself the first name on the teamsheet. At that time Victor and James Forrest were fantastic for Celtic and they were probably overplayed over the last couple of months. After a nice little rest I’m really looking forward to the man Vic back in the CDM role.
I would also expect Emilio if he is fit to take up the LB position as he started to look more assured when he came on at Ibrokes. This won’t be a sentimental decision IMO, the guy must be desperate to get back in amongst the first team and it will be good news for Celtic.
I think Kris Commons will also start because James is out for a while and he has started to look the part again.
I’d play the 4-3-3
Fraser
Adam Thomas Charlie Emilio
Scott Victor Joe
Georgios Kris
Gary
Once this game has been played, Neil will surely blood 3 or 4 youngsters for all (including the huns) the League games remaining, allowing players to remain fresh for the Cup final, if we make it. ;) I think everyone is looking forward to seeing how good these youngsters are at the moment and we have an ideal opportunity to bring the best of them on quicker because we are already the CHAMPIONS.
My Player of the Year – Top 3.
1. Paul Brennan
2. Phil McG
3. Alex Thomson – a late run from the C4 Journo just pushing out Charlie Mulgrew and Joe Ledley
weeron on 13 April, 2012 at 16:22:
“The one remaining major flaw in Neil’s team is……
“Big games. Cup games.”
I thought Celtic won the Scottish Cup last season, beating the Huns along the way – that’s three big cup games without defeat already…
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/
I see from Alex Thomson blog he found their casino that sDM was always going to build. It was still in their plans not that long ago.
– “Not least, because the club was of course the first in Scotland to get a licence in 2003 for – amongst other things – financial good housekeeping, when as we now know it was as much a casino as a football club. All this in now unfolding, UEFA know and they are unamused.
And along with financial fair play comes political interference which has seen FIFA – football’s world governing body – take strong action against some member countries with meddling politicians. “
!!Bada Bing!! on 13 April, 2012 at 16:24
Name for the new huns: Casino Royale ?
Up there with the Taxus Rangers and the Govanside Dodgers
;o)
weeron on 13 April, 2012 at 16:22 said:
Football. Sunday….
Fair point Ronnie. I hoped Ross County was a one-off. But Inverness last year was a real killer. Recently, we had the chance to win 2 games to win two trophies in a week. But we didn’t show up.
Big test this week.
Ronnie
petec
I hope Ibrahim gets a couple of games before the end of the season.
Steinreignedsupreme on 13 April, 2012 at 16:34 said:
Killie 2 weeks ago????
petec
Surnames please, this is not primary school(though by the behaviour sometimes you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise!) ;)
HH
Casino?
Is that why they are wearing red and black scarves?
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