Fans Against Criminalisation


I know we have Hibs in the League Cup on our mind today but would like to look ahead to Saturday.  The umbrella group, Fans Against Criminalisation, have organised a rally in GEORGE SQUARE before our home league game against Hibs.  I asked the group who they were, what their objectives are and why we should go along on Saturday, and was very impressed with their answers:

“Fans Against Criminalisation is a campaign group founded by five fan organisations (Green Brigade, Celtic Trust, Celtic Supporters Association, Affiliation of Celtic Supporters, Association of Irish Celtic Supporters Clubs). The campaign was formed on the back of the Green Brigade’s well-received protest at the Inverness game and after many previous discussions between the organisations about the Bill. We decided to come together to campaign against the Bill.

“Our objective is to ‘Kill the Bill’, the first part which deals with ‘offensive behaviour at football’ anyway. We have no problem with the government trying to tackle societal problems like sectarianism but these are not football’s problems alone and where sectarian crimes are committed then existing laws can be used to arrest and prosecute offenders. The new law goes far beyond sectarianism and captures anything that may offend or may cause disorder. This is only applied to football fans and it is ludicrous given that there is little or no disorder in Scottish football grounds and that routine aspects of football rivalry and tribalism will now be criminal offences. Government ministers have said fans who do anything from blessing yourself to singing a national anthem could fall foul of the proposes new law.

“The Government has shown little interest in fans’ views on the Bill. F.A.C. will be campaigning vigorously over the coming weeks and months and will be making our views heard. If the Bill passes then we will continue to protest against it, and challenge it legally and politically. The Celtic support is a very powerful potential constituency and the Scottish Government should be mindful of that.

“The rally is the starting point for the campaign. We need Celtic fans to get along and show their support for the campaign and add weight to our voice. We’ve asked people to assemble at 12.00 and the demo will start at 12.30 with speakers from the campaign. There’s no headline acts – Saturday is simply a time for ordinary Celtic fans to come together and unite against the Bill; a time to come together and send a message to the politicians that we will fight them all the way. Everyone should be doing their best to get along to George Square on Saturday and say no to the Bill.”

If at all possible, get along on Saturday and register your support.

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  1. From the Guardian. Is it an advert for summer football



    “Down at the pub the other night, a friend of mine bullishly claimed he’d heard that a match was once postponed on almost 30 separate occasions. Is he having me on?” asks Jonathan Gainter.



    Hail your friend, Jonathan, as he speaks the truth. Back in the icy winter of 1979, the Scottish Cup second-round clash between Inverness Thistle and Falkirk had to be postponed no fewer than 29 times. The original date for the game was 6 January, but the clubs had to wait 47 days until the Kings Mills ground was eventually declared playable, on 22 February. When the match finally took place, four first-half goals helped Falkirk seal their spot in the third round. However, because of the 71-day period between the second-round draw and Falkirk’s win, Billy Little’s side were forced to visit Dundee just three days later in round three, where a late penalty ended their cup journey.



    Incredible as these 29 postponements are, the tie is still eclipsed by another Scottish Cup game that took place 16 years earlier, when sub-zero conditions again played havoc with the fixture list – and not just in Scotland but all across Britain. More than 400 English league and cup matches fell victim to the weather and the season had to be extended by a month on both sides of the border. While one FA Cup third-round tie between Coventry and Lincoln eventually took place at the 16th time of asking, the clash between Airdrie and Stranraer was busy setting a British record of 33 postponements. For Airdrie it was 34th time lucky as they ran out 3-0 victors.”

  2. Summa of Sammi



    If you could promise me that Sammi every week then we’d have no argument.



    Hail Hail

  3. sannabhoy says:



    26 October, 2011 at 13:36


    Summa , Philvis , Sharleen is from , I believe , the ancient capital of strathclyde , Dumbarton – although to might actually be the Rantan she hails from .


    Sanna (Bhoy of the Rock csc)





    She is from Balloch.

  4. McNair is the greatest on

    Neil Lennon is (and always will be) a Celtforlife (*O*) says:


    26 October, 2011 at 14:03


    cadizzy says:


    26 October, 2011 at 13:46


    I’ve never seen Dumbarton Rock but I’ve seen it shake a little



    Why did Dumbarton Rock because it saw the River Leven!!!

  5. Little off topic (as much as I like Dumbarton Rock) but….



    … does anyone think that the RTC sources from inside Ibroke could be providing DIS-INFORMATION in an attempt to blow more smoke over the the already smoky-screen in a wee attempt to put one over on us Tims.



    Only reason I ask is that at this moment in time we are 19hrs 49 mins away from the reputed demise of The Darnel and there’s no white smoke from any of the big four counting houses let alone PWC.



    I heard it was Ernst & Young doing the deed at 10am tomorrow but what do I know!!!

  6. Lads i can get onto Phils site and the recent article about rangers is there with comments so I’m not sure why people are posting it’s down..

  7. McNair is the greatest on

    Oldie but still pretty funny



    1st Guy) The only 2 things that come oot the Renton is whores and footballers.



    2nd Guy) Ma sisters fae the Renton!!



    1st Guy)Whit position does she play?

  8. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    Get Speroni from Crystal P in Jan if poss. Had a brill game at the weekend. Jumps up for the ball and comes off his line and shouts at his defenders! The kinda things normal goalies do.

  9. South Of Tunis on

    Sharleen Spiteri——-



    I remember her talking about her days at Vale of Leven Academy during a radio interview .

  10. In medieval Scotland, Dumbarton (Dùn Breatainn, which means ‘the fortress of the Britons’) was an important royal castle. It sheltered David II and his young wife, Joan of The Tower after the Scottish defeat at Halidon Hill in 1333.



    In 1425 the castle was attacked by James the Fat, youngest son of Murdoch Stewart, Duke of Albany, who had been imprisoned by King James I of Scotland on charges of treason. James the Fat became a rallying point for enemies of the King, and raised a large rebellion against the crown. He marched on the town of Dumbarton and burned it, but was unable to take the castle, whose defender John Colquhoun successfully held out against James’ men

  11. RobertTressell – Vote Yes for Strike Action on 30th November – Thanks for the explanation.



    I’m not sure how anybody can come to the conclusion that there isn’t a “black hole” in public sector pensions in the UK.



    There is, for the simple reason that these pensions are mostly unfunded.



    “Unfunded” means they expect to be paid directly out of future taxes, since there isn’t, alas, some huge pot of money that has been accumulating through investment and compound interest over the years to provide for public sector retirees.



    With an ageing population and the government trillions of pounds in the red, some hard decisions have to be made.



    You should count yourselves lucky you’re only being asked to contribute 3.4%.



    I also have to pick you up on this point: in fact the average public sector pension is less than £7K a year…….)



    Strictly speaking this is true, but it is not the full truth.



    The £7K figure only applies when you include all the part-time and temporary public sector workers who get pensions. (The madness of the taxpayer being expected to provide pensions for part-time and temporary workers probably is lost on you). The average full time career public sector worker will expect to receive much, much more than this every year, on considerably better terms and with much better protections than exist in private sector pensions.



    Now, you ask whose side I am on?



    I am on the side of the taxpayer. I am on the side of the honest, hardworking people who make this country function, without whom there wouldn’t be any taxes to fund public services in the first place, and who have to carry on their backs a vastly bloated public sector we can no longer afford, full of bolshy malcontents raging at the suggestion they should contribute a modest sum towards their own gold-plated pension schemes.



    We are not a nation of deserving cases. We are not a nation of social workers, or of clients of social workers, or of municipal diversity outreach co-ordinators, or telephone sanitisers, or what-have-you.



    We are a proud, fierce nation and it is time we returned to the simple values that made this country great: courage, self-reliance, and hard work. That is the only way we can build a better future for ourselves and those who come after us, not through whingeing and striking and self-entitlement.



    Anybody working in the public sector who doesn’t want to be part of the solution is free to find employment elsewhere. No doubt their talents will be suitably rewarded in the martketplace.




  12. Dontbrattbakkinanger says:



    26 October, 2011 at 13:56


    Sharleen Spiteri is from Balloch.


    You will have El Diego Bhoy and Thismancraig [ long time no post?] protesting at the theft of Loch Lomond’s greatest gift to music since the ole Jacobite was locked up in Carlisle Castle, licking the moisture out the walls of his cell.






    Very well…that Sannabhoy trying to knick the best from the Vale. Typical Dumbarton man ;););)

  13. Take part in survey (4 questions) to gather the views of as many supports from as many Scottish clubs as possible re. Rangers FC 2012 and direct entry back in to SPL if/when the exist Rangers FC experience a liquidation event that sees the death of Rangers FC 1873 to 2011.



    Please pass to friends/relatives/other football clubs supporters (we’re getting a bit top heavy with Celtic viewpoint and it be good to get more views from other supporters including Rangers supporters), websites via facebook, twitter, email, txt etc.



    Take the survey





  14. 3 Guys in pub



    1st Guy Am going oot wi a bird from Easterhouse and she’s only got one arm


    2nd guy Thats nothin Am going oot wi a bird from Maryhill and she’e only got wan leg


    3rd Guy Beat this then Am going wi a bird from Pollok and she’s only got wan wean

  15. Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on

    2010 Never Again



    Could it be that Celtic (the Board) know the magnitude of the financial doping….and in the compliance by some at the SFA to keep things under wraps.



    Out of the blue (pardon the pun) Reagan arrives at the SFA. He arrives from somewhere left field in England with no apparent links to anyone in Hundom. This surely goes against the grain somewhat. Why would the SFA employ someone who was not one of their own? It totally goes against the grain, doesn’t it?



    Gordon Smith left the SFA under a cloud stating his elderly parents were ill. We knew at the time this was a smokescreen as he was pushed.



    Now this raises a question. Why was he pushed? We know he was an incompetent but when has that been enough to get rid of a Hun sycophant from the SFA. They usually need to be caught with the smoking gun and with their hand in the pocket of the corpse ala Farry.



    SO, who had the dirt on him (and what exactly was the dirt) and who was doing the pushing behind the scenes for him to fall on his sword?



    It would be naive to think that Celtic did not know the extent of the Hun debt and the part EBT’s played in the financial mis-management of Rangers.



    It would also be naive to think Celtic did not know of the ramifications down the road the EBT’s would likely have on Rangers as Celtic had toyed with the idea themselves before making a decision to jettison this scheme and pay the required tax.



    It’s also more than interesting the last SFA, AGM voted unanimously for significant change to the workings of that corrupt organisation. Why would they do this to a man? What did they know? What were they being told that made them vote so overwhelmingly the way they did?



    It is most un-Hunlike for something like this to happen in mass (pardon the pun) Don’t you think?



    And then lo and behold Peter Lawwell gets voted on to the Board of the SPL (or is it the SFA)?



    It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Celtic were well aware of the extent of the corruption within the SFA.



    It also wouldn’t surprise me if they also knew the Huns have been kept afloat by certain complicit SFA officials signing off on the Huns UEFA licence even though they were in breach of UEFA rules.



    So why has nothing been done about it if this is the case?



    Well I think if Celtic were to push things at the present time Scottish Football is literally finished.



    I think Celtic are waiting for the Huns to meet their waterloo and they have been given assurances things will change for the better by Reagan and they are giving him time to meet these ends.



    Where I think it might all come unstuck is if Celtic minded people keep digging….and keep asking the right questions for which there are no credible answers….then the whole pack of cards might just collapse.



    If it is proven that Rangers were allowed to compete in European competition while clearly in breach of UEFA rules then the SFA is open to litigation and quite possibly criminal charges could be laid. The SFA could be also subject to a class action from Celtic shareholders and other effected parties for serious damages which could no bankrupt an already morally bankrupt organisation.



    Scottish Football could not survive this type of scenario imo either financially or in any integral way.



    I think our Club knows this and could quite possibly be acting to ensure the whole house doesn’t literally fall apart.



    If this is the case I believe they better hope the Huns do get what’s coming to them very soon or things may well be taken out of their hands.



    As Phil Mac has just stated…….”there’s a story here”

  16. Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on

    hen1rik says:


    26 October, 2011 at 14:13


    Lads i can get onto Phils site and the recent article about rangers is there with comments so I’m not sure why people are posting it’s down..









    2010 Never Again



    I think the link is dodgy. It comes up with an error. Try going directly to the site.

  17. hen1rik



    there was an article posted by PMG this morning about an outstanding agent fee…since pulled, as Sanna highlighted…..



    …strange….did anybody catch the detail?




  18. philsvisreturns @ 14.19



    You are on the side of the hardworking? You certainly ain’t one of them, judging by the time you spend on this blog!

  19. hhplc



    It concerned the Agent of the most “interesting” man at Rangers not getting between £50k & £100k (if i remember correctly) due in the Summer and threatening legal action.

  20. greenjedi , correct . sum mentioned was 90k , due in August. Phil mentioned a summary demand to be raised today and a winding up notice if not settled in 3 weeks .



    maybe dis-information or maybe some legal pressure




  21. philvisreturns @ 14:19



    Philvis, you old reactionary …



    As I’m sure you are aware, pensions (for the vast majority) are a form of deferred income; a salary sacrifice form of benefit (soon and wisely to be available to all workers), by way of encouraging workers to provide for their old age. They are thereby a well-understood means of recruiting and retaining staff who might otherwise go and work somewhere else, even if their vocation urges them to choose this employer over that one, despite differences in ‘top line’ pay/compensation.



    Dare I ask if you are a member of a pension scheme? If so, might you be willing to give us lesser mortals a glimpse into how it works?




  22. Sanna



    Catch me on Saturday for a sponsorship (flag or waxing, whatever you prefer!)…as usual I will be distracted with hhplcjnr!!




  23. .



    When l Was Young l Used to Hate Going to Weddings.. The Old Granny’s Used to Say to Me..”Your Next”..:O(



    Now l Love Going to Funerals..I Go Over to the Old Granny’s and Say..”Your Next”..:O)



    Summa ft ILoveGranny’sCSC

  24. its quite possible in among all the stuff that phil mac has been posting to which most has been pretty accurate,


    that there will be disinformation supplied also, which in turn could and most probaly will be used to discredit him,


    when you work in the double agent world of inside sources there is always a two edged blade,so until the deed is


    done to rangers we must assume they will survive to the end of the season at least,its very strange that the players


    of rangers are not playing like a team thats about to be torn apart or worried about wages, i know this may still happen


    but at the moment they dont look like a team fearful for their future.

  25. drove by the Celtics Lennoxtowns training ground about an hour ago just got out the car i think my hamstrings gone i reckon i will not be able to play golf for about six weeks


    H H