Amid the sea of angst, from some, at Rangers punishment, some perspective is required. Ban any other SPL club from signing players for 12 months and fine them £160k and they will be modesty inconvenienced.
Most clubs only add one or two key players (all going well) to their squad each season and a fine of less than half a percentage point of turnover is hardly punishment at all. Some clubs currently owed money by Rangers could have a de facto ban on transfers as a result – and they’ve done nothing wrong.
For bringing the game into disrepute and breaking a myriad of rules, this is a mild censure.
This only becomes problematic if the club is not paying its bills. Pay your bills, or at the very least, agree a deal with creditors to forgive a portion of debts, and Rangers will be able to retain their current staff and could continue to perform strongly in next season’s Scottish Premier League.
The fantasy that this is a possibility is still being entertained by Duff and Phelps so I see no reason why the rest of us should not point out the inconvenient irony of their position.
The SFA must impose a financial and sporting penalty for bringing the game into disrepute, in this, they have no choice whatsoever. The penalty must be substantial and act as a deterrent against criminal or disreputable elements becoming involved in Scottish football in future. Pay your bills or conjure up the mythical CVA and you’ll cope just fine.
One additional point on the financial penalty. £160k is less than 1% of the debt Sir David Murray was released from when he failed to sufficiently investigate the suitability of Craig Whyte as an owner of Rangers – despite the warnings from others around the Rangers boardroom table.
In light of his failure to take heed of warnings from the then Rangers chairman and his connected financial gain, perhaps Sir David would offer to pay Rangers fine? £18m, David. Don’t tell me that’s enough money to drown out Alastair Johnston’s warning and any feelings of remorse. Paying the fine is the least you owe Rangers fans.
Was it worth it?
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I don’t think they know what they are complaining about.
Maybe they meant punative, but are just to thick.
Maybe they should have just said punishment.
Then again they may just have meant to put “any punishment”
Saint Stivs on 24 April, 2012 at 12:36 said:
I was over the other blog talking to myself, jeese oh, so many new threads.
Anyone know if the new East End Regeneration Route road phase 2 has opened ?
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Not yet
Remember when they were 12 points ahead and openly talking about administration and laughing they would still be top of the league?
It didn’t bother them then Whyte was not paying the bills.
Stupid huns…
The trust’s statement claims the SFA’s decision “has been taken with the sole purpose of crippling Rangers Football Club”.
It continues: “It is completely unacceptable and fans groups will be meeting to explore how we jointly express our opposition to this decision in the strongest possible terms.
“This could include protesting at Hampden on on the day of the Scottish Cup final as well as boycotting SFA sponsors.
“All options are on the table and no Rangers player or supporter can credibly play in or support the national side until this ridiculous decision is reversed.”
The Rangers Supporters Assembly made a similar point.
Their statement read: “Just when the club needs the SFA to help it… they kick us when we are down.
“Why did the SFA not investigate when they said they had suspicions before Christmas rather than wait until the club went into administration?”
The governing body wrote to Rangers on 1 December asking for clarification over Whyte’s declaration 24 hours earlier that he had previously been disqualified as a director, a fact that emerged almost six weeks previously in a BBC Scotland documentary.
The SFA announced they were launching a full independent inquiry on 17 February, three days after the club went into administration.
The findings of the inquiry led to several charges against the club and Whyte, who has been banned for life from Scottish football and fined £200,000.
The trust statement added: “Despite calls to delay this action the SFA persisted with this case while the club was not in a position to adequately defend itself and had the SFA done its job in the first place on Craig Whyte then this entire saga could have been avoided.
“Rangers supporters are appalled by this decision which brings shame on the SFA and the national game.”
And this man was supposed to be a spokesman!, ie a Hillbilly of the semi-housetrained variety.
Oh dearie dearie me.
http://youtu.be/b8covAX7ZEA
Having a Party when Rangers die.
Snake Plissken on 24 April, 2012 at 12:39 said:
I should have put a :0) at the end of that
TimJim
Your club has:-
A/ Cheated the UK taxpayer out of tens of millions of pounds, which could otherwise have been used to pay for schools, hospitals, & their beloved Armed Forces
B/ Deceived the football authorities in the UK & Europe by consistently playing ineligible players
C/ Operate a policy of “shaft everyone, use all monies available (legally or otherwise” to give you a competitive advantage on the field
D/ Have supporters who riot at a European final
E/ Have supporters who consistently spout sectarion & racist filth
F/ Take next to no action against said supporters
G/ Once caught out in A-C above, the well heeled amongst your support try everything to avoid paying creditors, big & small, & wish to raise capital subsequent to a CVA/Liquidation so you can be immediately competitive & put Timmy back in their place, & this is seen as morally acceptable by pretty much all of your support
H/ Expect that as you are “the Peepil” & that Scottish football needs you, that its unfair to apply any meaningful (or any at all) punishment to your club
Yes, Rangers fans, Neil Lennon is undoubtedly the man who most shames scottish football…
Right there, Radio Scotland has just shown why we most of all will not miss them; that’s from one of their fan reps FFS
Well in John Beattie, if i recall, hardly a fan of Orange marches, remember he wrote quite a scathing article about them.
rangers till july
hahahahahahahahahaha
They just don’t get it – they are a rudderless ship from every walk of life that either supports them or has managed them (and I’m not just talking about TFPLG!).
Blame Neil Lennon, brilliant!
Personally if I was a hun I’d want Andy Cameron wheeled out. He might be a *%£* (insert your own 4 letters) but he couldn’t be any worse of a spokesman than they’ve had on the media so far and at least he’s had some experience in front of a camera or behind a mic. Either that or they could just ask Bill Leckie to officially represent them! St Mirren my *rs*.
Jim Royle CSC
and I am not frightened of dying, any time will do, i
Don’t mind. why should I be frightened of dying?
There’s no reason for it, you’ve gotta go sometime.’
Get a ******* move on
Hail HAil
Saint Stivs on 24 April, 2012 at 12:36 said:
I was over the other blog talking to myself, jeese oh, so many new threads.
Anyone know if the new East End Regeneration Route road phase 2 has opened ?
After coming out of CP the other day and heading towards Polmadie, I got to the new roundabout on London Rd and turned left thinking the road was open and I could drive down it. I got about 50yds down it and came to a set of lights with barriers in front of it!
What I would say is that the view of the Velodrome/Indoor Arena is spectacular from there. Loads of parking spaces that, I believe, we can use on match days.
SPF(Still looking for ThaiTimsTickets)
I really am lost for words that that MacMillan could feel he could come on to Radio Scotland and spout the utter nonsense he has done.It just shows what the sports media (for want of a better term) in Scotland have done in demonising our manager. I find it frightening, tbh. Now they are focusing on Whyte to draw attention away from the real culprit: SDM. Mind you, he shouldn’t take the whole blame. He was ably supported by Ogilvie, Greig & Paul Murray, to name but a few.
I am NL in NZ Tauranga on 24 April, 2012 at 12:47 said:
rangers till july
no chance they will see the start of their marching season.
Copied from I can’t remember who last night
One Pound to rule them all, One Pound to find them,
One Pound to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
Che, ha!
James Forrest, great idea on the 8 moments.
Mort
Thanks
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Auldheid
Ha, just no changing fast enough mi amigo.
Why didn’t the SFA expell them then ? it’s in their rules.
im sure when that auld twat on shortbtead listens back on his interview ge will feel some sense of shame….or then again, maybe not…prob thinks hitler was a good guy too.
Lunchtime Shortbread
“Ragers ‘accused’ of bringing the game into disrepute”
In Denial CSC
Saint Stivs
I met John MacMillan a few months ago. I rather liked the old fellow, he came across as a considered and reasonable guy who was very fearful for the future of his club.
I would suggest that he’s being played by the ring leaders. Look at the RST statment for example. The sorry attempt to change the agenda is quite clear, and MacMillan really ought to be a little wider than to fall into this sort of crap.
Bear in mind though, that I have also met Dick Byrne, and I think he is a reasonable and considered old fellow too.
TBB
See instead of boycotting everyone and blaming Neil Lennon why don’t they grow up and start by asking their saviour Paul Murray what the hell he did whilst Sir David destroyed their club?
I know what he did, they know what he did.
He sat in the Directors box, with that silly tie on wearing his bush creeping rain mac, cheering the player bling being paid for illegally whilst they stole trophies from every other team in Scotland. Whilst totally ignoring the hungry gorilla.
Stupid huns are at the top and filter all the way down.
Does anybody else wish it was Sunday tomorrow? I can’t wait for a full on gloating sing song towards them and their “fans” (ahem) that will be there on Sunday. I saw someone tweet that we should sing “Liquidation” to the tune of “Championees”……my favourite so far!
Anyone else got any ideas?
HH
CTTC
Paul67 – Interesting point made by the Rangers Supporters Assembly amid the predictable sea of hunnish bile and perma-rage:
Despite calls to delay this action the SFA persisted with this case while the club was not in a position to adequately defend itself…
As we know, Rangers is in administration because it wanted to avoid paying its creditors, specifically HMRC, which it cynically and deliberately withheld taxes from in a transparent attempt to hasten an insolvency event.
So how dare the SFA punish Rangers while they are in administration!
By the same Bizarro-world hun logic, a man who kills his own parents should be spared punishment out of sympathy for his status as an orphan. (thumbsup)
St Stivs,
“Decent enough guy, never any hassles over the football, straight enough, but wouldnt get into any debates with you.”
no getting into debates should have been enough for suspicion, the preassure shows him for exactly what he is, pleas stop defending him.
Mr Macmillan may indeed be a decent enough man who has been caught up in the emotional train wreck of what is happening to his club,
being the decent man that he is Im sure he will take the first opportunity and apologise for todays outburst.
thatll probably happen the same day that sir minty pays the big tax bill from the vaults of his own personal wealth
Celtic_to_the_core on 24 April, 2012 at 12:54 said:
That “Rangers til July” sounds like a laugh.
God grant thems the SERENITY to accept the things thems cannot change,
The COURAGE to change the things thems can change,
And the WISDOM to know the difference.
Right ! That’s my Christian duty done.
Now, back to enjoying the carnage.
After what Neil has been through on behalf of our football club,to defend McMillan for what he clearly said on Shortbread,is IMO ridiculous.
Remember when you were a kid and only one of your friends could afford a football? So he always got to be captain, have first pick and take the penalties. And if not he would threaten to storm off with the immortal words, “It’s ma ba”.
That’s the huns’ approach to Scottish football.
It’s not that they are surprised to be punished, or even unused to the feeling it brings. It’s more that they don’t think they should ever be punished. They are not just above the law, they are the law. It’s their game and ultimately their country.
So when some upstarts come along and actually make them accountable for their actions they don’t like it.
But the problem here is that they can pick up their ba and head off if they like. The rest of us will be quite happy to play on without them. We don’t need them.
che timing is everything.
James Forrest
23 November 1988 Murray secured the purchase of Rangers
That has surely secured this years and the previous 10 and next 10+ titles! :))
If CW had enough cash to see rangers through to the end of the season then they could have continued withholding PAYE till the summer by which time they could have cheated their way to another title and CL participation.
In this context a 12 month embargo seems lenient, particularly when set against the 2 year ban placed on Sion for tapping up a player.
Just because there in administration doesn’t mean there sins of this season should be overlooked. I presume the SFA have learned their lesson after the NL affair and this should stand up against appeal
Again when you use the Sion case as a benchmark when it comes to the SPL inquiry, I see no credible punishment that has Rangers playing in the SPL next season
Celtic_to_the_core on 24 April, 2012 at 12:54 said:
end to end singing from green brigade across the stadium
No Income Tax..
No VAT
No Money back
No guarantee
Ill see if my oul fella will kick it off ala junior capo
The team should run out to the Beatles singing “The Taxman”
MacMillan is a an old bigot never ever forget this is.
Snake Plissken on 24 April, 2012 at 12:23 said:
Have you guys seen this?
I thought the funniest part was the planned “Mass walk”.
“Bless me father for I have sinned, but I am not really sorry and don’t do penance either!!”
HH
CRC
Who made the calls to delay the punishment, does anyone remember such calls being public
Does the president represent them
The Battered Bunnet on 24 April, 2012 at 12:53 said:
Saint Stivs
I met John MacMillan a few months ago. I rather liked the old fellow, he came across as a considered and reasonable guy who was very fearful for the future of his club.
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Poor Dick Byrne disnae half get it tight from some of you chaps.