Amid the sea of angst, from some, at Rangers punishment, some perspective is required. Ban any other SPL club from signing players for 12 months and fine them £160k and they will be modesty inconvenienced.
Most clubs only add one or two key players (all going well) to their squad each season and a fine of less than half a percentage point of turnover is hardly punishment at all. Some clubs currently owed money by Rangers could have a de facto ban on transfers as a result – and they’ve done nothing wrong.
For bringing the game into disrepute and breaking a myriad of rules, this is a mild censure.
This only becomes problematic if the club is not paying its bills. Pay your bills, or at the very least, agree a deal with creditors to forgive a portion of debts, and Rangers will be able to retain their current staff and could continue to perform strongly in next season’s Scottish Premier League.
The fantasy that this is a possibility is still being entertained by Duff and Phelps so I see no reason why the rest of us should not point out the inconvenient irony of their position.
The SFA must impose a financial and sporting penalty for bringing the game into disrepute, in this, they have no choice whatsoever. The penalty must be substantial and act as a deterrent against criminal or disreputable elements becoming involved in Scottish football in future. Pay your bills or conjure up the mythical CVA and you’ll cope just fine.
One additional point on the financial penalty. £160k is less than 1% of the debt Sir David Murray was released from when he failed to sufficiently investigate the suitability of Craig Whyte as an owner of Rangers – despite the warnings from others around the Rangers boardroom table.
In light of his failure to take heed of warnings from the then Rangers chairman and his connected financial gain, perhaps Sir David would offer to pay Rangers fine? £18m, David. Don’t tell me that’s enough money to drown out Alastair Johnston’s warning and any feelings of remorse. Paying the fine is the least you owe Rangers fans.
Was it worth it?
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Was the timing of this SFA announcement a cunning plan by the authorities to focus the ire of RFC(IA)’s Neanderthal element on Hampden rather than Celtic Park?
The potentail for substantial civil unrest this week must be of great concern for the police and government as the death rattle becomes ever louder
Snake Plissken on 24 April, 2012 at 12:23 said:
Yes, There should be a Capital M for Mass and then a full stop. Erase the rest.
RFC know a thing or two about shame
bournesouprecipe on 24 April, 2012 at 13:18 said:
ernie lynch
‘2. Sanctions carry forward to any Newco’
Says who?
(Other than yourself. Obviously.)
Tell you what. I’m really really looking forward to The Kano Foundation End Of Season Bash now!
That’s all.
Songs for Sunday?
God save the Queen – Sex Pistols
Taxman – Beatles
Monster Mash
Tom hark (having a party when Rangers die song)
Tik Tok – Kesha
Bat out of Hell (for Craig Whyte)
We gotta get outta this place – The Animals
Chirpy Chirpy cheep cheep
Immigrant song – Led Zep
Thunderstruck
Highway to Hell
The laughing Policeman
Any more?
My Way – maybe not the overall sentiment of it but some of the lyrics are very apt.
Oh and for for the media:
I’d lie for you and that’s the truth by Meatloaf as well
Hey little fella, get your show together
I was listening in before
Now I don’t care no more
Look around now (look around now)
It’s always that it’s gonna get me down
It’s only begun
One look is all it took
I remember that sweet surrender
I recall, do you
That sweet surrender
Sweet surrender
My determination
Came creeping across the nation
Sure mistake for anyone
So you can’t take home everyone
Cause it’s only just begun
One look is all it took
To remember that sweet surrender
I recall, do you
That sweet surrender
I don’t know, I don’t care
Cause I’m living without you baby
Even when I know what’s going on
Yeah it only took, one look, one glance
To set my heart for romance
Do you believe my sweet surrender
My sweet surrender
Hey little fella, now your show’s together
I never wanted you to listen before
So why should I walk out the door
Stick around now (stick around now)
And so the story goes on through the night
It’s only begun
One look is all it took
I remember that sweet surrender
Do you recall, cause I do
My sweet surrender
I don’t know, I don’t care
Cause I’m living without you baby
Even when I know what’s going on
Yeah all it takes, one look, one glance
To set my heart for romance
One look is all it took
My sweet surrender
That sweet surrender
One look is all it took to remember
(I don’t know and I don’t care)
James Forrest,
If we are allowed to include external events – I think a big shout has to go to
Rangers 1 v 1 St.Mirren immediately following our Killie resurrection.
The goal St. Mirren scored in injury time was an absolute cracker – contender for goal of the season if it was scored by a ‘better’ team.
Charles Patrick Tully
Forgive my over exuberance.
I don’t think Entrance is spelled enterence though.
Who cares? It is still funny.
ArranmoreBhoy , well said
Dingwall and his ilk just do not get it. Pretending to be the victim in all this
It wizne me mister, a big boy (Well a wee guy from Motherwell actually) dunit and ran away!
When will they man up about this and accept they have been had by a crowd of chancers not only last year but over the last few decades.
Pay your Bills!
On the Rangers media article in the early hours one of them suggested that as the tickets had cost £42.00 instead of doing the mass walk out at 1 o’clock, they should wait until full time and then walk out. It’s maybe just me but isn’t that just leaving after the game (albeit in a mass exodus kind of way).
Rangers fans reaction to Celtic cyberspace dubiousness towards Whyte: “Shut it Timmy he’s a billionaire, we are the people”, end up pretty much carrying him aloft down Edminston Drive
Rangers fans reaction to Mark Daly’s BBC documentary: Protest outside the HQ of the “bigoted, bias and corrupt” BBC, standing shoulder to shoulder with their saviour Whyte
Rangers fans reaction to SFA punishment: Protest outside the SFA HQ for allowing their “saviour” Whyte to takeover in the first place. “NOBODY TOLD US HE WAS A CROOK!!”
They really deserve everything that’s happening to them simply due to their sheer stupidity, never mind the casual racism and bigotry.
ArranmoreBhoyLXV11 on 24 April, 2012 at 13:12 said:
Re Paddy Gilbride.
Someone else posted something similar earlier on.
I am glad that you both keep him in your memories.
SPF(Still looking for ThaiTimTickets)
Paul 67
Another question.
If the huns are liquidated and their share is available for transfer to another club, are there any criteria that club has to satisfy to be eligible?
What’s to stop clubs in the first division from applying?
“Wish me luck as you wave me goodbye”
songs for sunday
‘Shouldn’t have took more than you gave’ Dave Mason
‘Say Hello (hello(, wave Goodbye’ Soft Cell
Ernie Lynch
STV have tweeted it
*so it must be twoo*
Snake Plissken on 24 April, 2012 at 13:21 said:
”Songs for Sunday?”
More a tune than a song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZqjFd99CPg
Snake Plissken on 24 April, 2012 at 13:21 said:
Songs for Sunday?
The Liquidator
Huns on the run
Fassreifen on 24 April, 2012 at 13:08 said:
Thinking of a song to sing if ever we play Newco. Help me out with the two last lines if you feel like it:
No stars on your chest,
No trophies still gleaming,
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No stars on your chest, no 9 in a row
The Arsenal shares they had to go,
Craigie Whyte, Duff & Phelps, heroes to all us Celts,
No PAYE, NO VAT, no money back no guatantee
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Right ghuys n ghals. Quick question for you all.
Q. We all know the majority of Rangers Supporters are stupid but how many of you knew that Forrest Gump IQ score would blow away most of the Huns Mensa scores?
Mensa Test
Q. 1+1= ?
A. 1 (Forrest Gump)
A. 1 eh! Neil Lennon is a **** +1. Obviously (Rangers Supporters)
Q. If 100 oranges cost £1690 how much is 1 orange.
A. Same as a box of chocolates.
B. The price of an orange. Too expensive for Neil Lennon.
MWD
Totally Agree Paul,
In effect LTSB put an embargo on R@ngers transfer after the BTC reared it’s head.
Their hand was forced because even after the BTC had hit the Boardroom table R@ngers profigacy continued at the behest of the Team management.
Then after the Bank (Not the old Board as AJ et al would have us believe) had brought some fiscal stability to the club, they were savaged in PR terms by Supporters, the MSM and the Ibrox men.
Lloyds managed to obtain a get out of gaol TicketUs and left the building.
After this once again the pressure was put on the new Board by Supporters and Team management (& ex-management) to spend irresponsibly.
The SFA by enforcing a transfer ban will ensure the RFC incarnation will prioritise Corporate Governance over Football profigacy.
For any R@ngers stakeholder to claim they had an innocuous role in the debacle is a nonsense as for those duped into victimhood….
Now they want their players to boycott the Scotland games.
I thought they already did largely.
Who would Scotland really miss?
McGregor? Gordon when fit is better.
Whittaker – total chancer who canny defend?
Naismith – out his depth at that level.
They’ll be in England in a few months anyway so what a boycott.
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 24 April, 2012 at 12:23
8 things that led to the title?
The crowd at Parkhead whenever we sing “Glasgow’s Green and White”. Fantastic. Ask the players what they think.
The more I read from D&P and the silence from the SDM/Johnstone/etc, the more I feel Whyte has simply been brought in as a fall guy for the establishment! He takes all the heat, bad feeling, etc for £XXMil, and NewCo is formed by the good guys, P.Murray, etc! Even though he’s one of the architects of their downfall, he’ll be the hero for them!
The SFA have effectively killed Them off, but why do you think CO would be involved in this? Is it simply, clean the slate and start again, or is there something else behind this? Regan came across poorly in the CH4 interview with AT, and he’s sat back and done nothing, or is unable to do anything, with CO and his SFA & secretary position with them! The ‘stirring’ of these muddy waters by BM & the BK’s about reducing sanctions of Them as a NewCo, I think was a test of SFA/SPL reaction! Maybe we saw that reaction last night, or is this another smoke screen for D&P “we’re trying to save the club”, but I thought they worked in the interest of the creditors???…………remember, it was CW who pushed for them!!!
Snake Plissken on 24 April, 2012 at 13:21 said:
Top list of songs there.
They must surely play this song on Sunday
You must leave now, take what you need, you think will last
But whatever you wish to keep, you better grab it fast
Yonder stands your orphan with his gun
Crying like a fire in the sun
Look out the saints are comin’ through
And it’s all over now, Baby Blue.
The highway is for gamblers, better use your sense
Take what you have gathered from coincidence
The empty handed painter from your streets
Is drawing crazy patterns on your sheets
This sky, too, is folding under you
And it’s all over now, Baby Blue.
All your seasick sailors, they are rowing home
Your empty handed armies, are all going home
Your lover who just walked out the door
Has taken all his blankets from the floor
The carpet, too, is moving under you
And it’s all over now, Baby Blue.
Leave your stepping stones behind, something calls for you
Forget the dead you’ve left, they will not follow you
The vagabond who’s rapping at your door
Is standing in the clothes that you once wore
Strike another match, go start a new
And it’s all over now, Baby Blue.
Bob Dylan csc
Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word
traditionalist88, yes ancestors hailed from North Leitrim where they had a house no more than half a mile from the border with Fermanagh beside Lough Melvin, a beautiful spot. A relative was in the Irish League in glasgow going back to 1900’s probably around the time that Sean McDiarmid was in glasgow.
EDB
I was looking at what some of the Swiss clubs had done to get expelled, and it’s kids stuff compared to the hun.
But it’s scotland, so anything like a punishment is a start, still a long, long way to go to get anything like a level playing field.
Afternoon Celts, can’t keep up with the pace of the articles, posts and hun rantings, doing work stuff.
Can someone summarise for me please, using only one word and no swearing, thanks in advance :¬)
V
bournesouprecipe on 24 April, 2012 at 13:26 said:
”Ernie Lynch
STV have tweeted it
*so it must be twoo* ”
Mmmm.
I can’t see how that can be the case.
I’ll reserve judgement until Keevins issues a proclamation. He’s bound to be wrong.
Beatles – Taxman
Harry J All Stars – Liquidator
Beatles / Flying Lizards – Money
The Jam – Pretty Green
The Kinks – Sunny Afternoon
Danny Kaye – I Paid My Income Tax Today
Aloe Blacc – I need a dollar