Within a very short period following Rangers ‘success’ at the Court of Session, Fifa issued a statement intimating that while they had not yet heard from the Scottish FA, “in such a case, FIFA will ask the Member Association to take action so that the club withdraws its request from the ordinary courts.”
If Fifa are telling the world this, they have by now told the SFA to take action to ensure Rangers withdraws its ruling from the Court of Session.
SFA chief executive, Stewart Regan, has been satisfied with his hands-off approach with Rangers as this debacle unfolded but such a policy seems to have emboldened the errant club. The matter has now been taken out of the association’s hands, an embarrassment for every office holder at the SFA*. After receiving legal advice yesterday evening, they will tell Rangers to walk away or be suspended from football.
Rangers have yet to accept the dual contract allegation is true and, as a corporate body, continue to refuse to produce or acknowledge evidence. They have not even considered the ramifications of Billy Dodds’ evidence given to the Sunday Herald. They are looking at this situation through a prism of different facts – specifically, Craig Whyte did a disproportionate amount of harm in a short period of time.
The sense of entitlement at that club, combined with a still-evident failure to show contrition for the more serious offences of the last 20 years, while insisting ‘it was all Craig Whyte’ means anything can happen next.
I’ve questioned the wisdom of a few commenters on Celtic Quick News about choosing a path which would lead to the end of our club. There appears to be no one telling the fundamentalists running Rangers that destroying a football club while insisting you are in the right is puerile, self-defeating and what your worst enemies would wish on you.
They might be right (they’re not), but self-righteousness can destroy you.
*except Campbell Ogilvie, of course. Nothing can embarrass President What-school-did-you-go-to.
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traditionalist88,
Oh I’m sure you’re right. We know the company is up and running. But to run a football team it needs a stadium, etc., and it can’t now get Ibrox until the CVA is rejected and the liquidator goes to work.
BRTH
Good to have you back!
So, your advice to Stewart Regan is to not answer the phone.
You must have spoken to him some time ago, then…!
HH
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on 30 May, 2012 at 10:36 said:
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Well….’they’ are the wee arra peepul !
HH!
P.S.
I truly enjoyed your Ali/Foreman analogy yesterday.
: )
This is shaping up to be a key day in the saga.
We watch with interest with Two Surnames in the eye of the storm when he really should be cultivating his Lily of the Valley.
BRTH
AnalogiesCSC
:-)
…and welcome back Kojo!
merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut on 30 May, 2012 at 10:28 said:
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Imagine a huge bag filled with innumerable octopi on amphetamines….
Great piece as usual Paul,liked the walk away bit.
Ah hate soap operas but this wans great.
Some predictable reaction from FF to the prospect of the Huns being expelled:
“The SFA Dont have the balls to even attempt a suspension or withdrawel of License.
It would create open warfare, and would no doubt end in civil disorder and very violent scenes.”
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“F*** them all, if they want war they can have it.
As big Archie said last night, Fifa the moral guardians of the game, REALLY?????
Take them all the way Rangers and destroy the game of football in this poxy wee land”
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“Oh and SFA…..you WILL be moving house.
I am a man of peace (and a shit fighter!) but our vast support contains many types….if you decide to ‘take this all the way’ then you cannot go about your lives in peace…you do know that yes? You have thought about this?”
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“Seriously what can they do? They can’t give us a heavier ban as that will make them even more of a joke. A year out of the Scottish cup is all I can see. If FIFA were to through Celtic and Motherwell out of Europe I think I would probably die with laughter”
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“Close us down for good?
And where would these c***s live…Mongolia?
Hampden would be torn down brick by brick.
they wouldn’t f***ing dare.”
miki67 on 30 May, 2012 at 10:48 said:
merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut on 30 May, 2012 at 10:28 said:
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Imagine a huge bag filled with innumerable octopi on amphetamines…
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dumped into the water and a huge exocet missile with a nuclear charge honing in on it!
HH
Gordon_J
Fun and games alright- maybe D&P will withdraw the application to the court and put them back to square one. Maybe even the peepil will realise then that this is one big charade before the big L!
HH
No doubt ogilvies(the Mole) phone line will be red hot…thems will want up to the minute info ….the italians could learn from this shower big time
I think today we are seeing a massive sea-change in the opinion of many supporters who may mot have been of a Celtic hue.
Clearly we’ve long wanted Rangers punished to the hilt; preferably totally wiped off the face of Scottish football with all their history and horrible baggage.
Supporters of other teams have perhaps been a little more cautious – perhaps even fearful – for their existence in a Rangers free land.
Yesterday’s events seem to have crystallised minds.
The pathetic CVA offer to existing creditors, the knowledge that D&P STILL continued not to pay income tax and NI to HMRC ( so they too were using this as “working capital” since they were deduction from staff) and then their “victory” at the Court of Sessions has hardened many people’s views that these people should be run out of town.
Why HMRC have not acted yet is beyond me and. I do not want MY tax deductions funding Rangers which in part they seem to be doing.
The shenanigans of D&P coupled with the previous actions of Messrs Whyte and Murray havbe made me feel sick of heart.
I am now very firmly of the view that if Rangers exist in any form next season Scottish football can hang up a closed for business sign since I believe thousands and thoudands of fans will not support a product that has such a massive sense of corruption.
We have now reached the point when “ra peepil” need to be taken out.
Please someone; – the SFA, SPL, HMRC, FIFA, UEFA or Sky – take the first step in dealing the knock-out blow to this insidious and entitled but corrupt and horrible football club.
May also be time for Celtic to announce they will not take part in any televised football while they remain in place. Come on, PL, you can do it!
Kayal33 on 30 May, 2012 at 10:21 said:
The only way that the SFA can retrieve the situation, and begin to look like a credible footballing administration organisation, is to suspend the taxdodgers from today. The suspension should remain in place until the whole labyrinth of issues surrounding the taxdodgers are resolved.
Breaking FIFA rules, accepting the transfer embargo, the dual contracts issue, licensing, liquidation/cva, once what is left of the taxdodgers has satisfactorily sorted all of these issues, come back to SFA and apply for new licence and suspension to be lifted. Should only take a year or two.
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And ruin Neil Doncaster’s salami slice policy?
You are of course correct. Rangers are now a visibly polluting source as transaparency is revealing.
BRTH
Who answers the bloody phone at 4:55pm on a Friday?………………
Not me. We get to finish at 4.00pm on a Friday. Problem solved. :-)
Mort
Duff&Duffer are a class act.
Q: Is the £8.5m from Charles Green’s Sevco consortium a loan rather than an investment?
Clark: At this moment in time, it could be interpreted that way.
Q: In disputing the 12-month transfer embargo imposed on Rangers, did you ask the SFA if you could take the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Switzerland, rather than to the civil courts in Scotland?
Clark: I know that discussions took place between our solicitors and the SFA. I don’t know…
Tomthelennytim
I have no idea where that money ended up….. but think on this.
Let’s say there was an “arrangement” of some kind which leads to a payment or payments being made.
How many people would have to be involved in that arrangement?
Maybe a practice developed that spread beyond Souness to other parties, other clubs?
Clearly something is afoot somewhere.
I have said for ages that the number that comes out of the BTC will be the least interesting thing about the decision. I think there will be matters uncovered in there that will reveal a whole lot more stuff for people to be concerned about.
And, despite many vain attempts at resuscitation, as the life blood slowly drained from the near dead beast, , PL silently smiled to himself, knowing that his work was nearly done!
Next mission, England, here I come!
HH
Long time away..but always here. I have to say that whatever happens tomorrow, or the day after, how can anyone now support this club, which still may call itself..the RFC? It has not only broken all the rules …..but continues to justify itself by saying any, “any punishment at all is draconian and not our fault. You can’t get us because you didn’t envisage we would cheat everyone on such a grand scam”. They say “Yes, we have done wrong, but it was someone else….an individual!…They said this and they cheered on nine in a row! without caring”. For as long as I remember I have suffered from their cheating and I thought it was…fair play. We had to up our game.! Now I feel disgusted and cheated for much of my life as a football fan. I told my son, as a boy, to hold a successful moment in his head when we won the league because it doesn’t last. It’s temporary and it comes around..success that is…but cheats are cheats and cheating cheats everyone and it has scunnered me from ever watching this “carry on… football’ ever again!
I have many friends who are rangers fans…decent people..who, if they justify this, are no longer decent and are complicate!!!
UEFA have suspended Besiktas from European competition for one year due to the club’s financial difficulties.
Mort
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 30 May, 2012 at 10:14 said:
HT in like Flynn.
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Talk about timing!!
I hadn’t been on all morning, log on, and there’s a brand spanking new article with zero comments :-))))
Monaghan1900 on 30 May, 2012 at 10:50
I do not doubt for a moment that campaigns of fear and violence will follow if the huns get their just desserts.
I also believe that the people in charge of sfa/spl do genuinely fear for their, and their family’s safety if they are forced to sign the huns death warrant.
Who will be brave enough, or will it be more slaps on the wrist?
We’ll see.
hamiltontim
Rubbish, you’re in cahoots with philvis. After your love-fest with him yesterday, it’s obvious!
Don’t forget, we’re not rankers fans on here. We’re not so measily kidded!
HH
ASonOfDan,
How can a loan be interpreted as anything but a loan? The CVA calls it a loan.In fact it even gives it a capital letter. A Loan. It also details how the loan will be repaid. It’s a loan!
“The Company will repay the Loan together with interest on it on or before 31 December 2020”
HT
No, I dont know what measily means?
HH
HAMILTON TIM 1105
Of course-why would anyone suggest anything different?
RefreshCSC
SSN just announced that the huns are on twitter saying 2 of there players have been targets of racist abuse????
Hail hail
mersey’measily’celt :-))))))
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
rangers in administration is the gift that keeps on giving…
SSN just announced that the huns are on twitter saying 2 of there players have been targets of racist abuse
-Damarcus Measily will be one I expect.
HT
LOL!
It must have been a freudian slip justifying the change of moniker as you suggest..
Measilycelt lmfao as….
Is that the best they can come up with to deflect the flak today…
It’s all true you know. Some of the players at RFCia have been the subject of prejudice for years.
It is one of the most heard cries at RFCia, “what about me? Where’s my EBT?”
Spartans were thrown out of the Scottish Cup because they only put one date on a players contract, rather than the required 2 signatures. They were also fined £4,000 , which is approximately 5% of their total annual income.
Thrown out, as in banned from playing in the competition for an entire season.
Compare that with the possibility of the SFA applying the same sanction to Rangers, and fining them 0.2% of their annual income.
For a list of proven offences which are growing by the day, and already are unmatched in the history of Scottish Football.
Rangers and their apologists are looking for a less severe punishment than that meted out to a club who missed out one date on a contract !!
We all know what they are guilty of , they have already been found guilty. We know there is more and worse to come, much worse. The SPL enquiry has to find them guilty of illegal registration. The evidence in the public domain isn’t anecdotal, it’s Prima Facie level proof of guilt. Billy Dodds helpful intervention merely confirmed the direct involvement of the owner and chairman .
The fact that Rangers paid Souness at a time he was not employed by Rangers, not once but multiple times, and at a time he was employed by a competitor European club, is beyond anything Redknapp and Allardyce were even accused of.
And Souness isn’t the only one with something to fear. There were others who were not named in the BBC documentary who received payments.
However that’s for later. The fundamental point here is that Rangers are demanding a punishment less severe than Spartans. That cannot even be a consideration for the SFA.
A year long suspension from football is the very least the SFA can now hand down to them
merseycelt
I couldn’t possibly be philvis we are too far apart in so many ways.
For a start he uses the word ‘awesome’ whereas I’m more of a ‘fandabbydozy’ kinda guy! :-))
The way this mob has run over Scottish Society in the last few months and Scottish Society has not only allowed it, but also excused it, is starting to sicken my soul…
Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20
Been informed that a RFC fan who follows me here is calling my office with threats against me. It is just sad
It’s all they know Gregory
Gregory Ioannidis now confirms on twitter that he is now receiving threats at his office from Scotlands Shame Orc following
They just sink lower and lower