Charles Green, like Whyte and Duff & Phelps before him, is asking for admittance to the SPL on the basis that Rangers FC is a distinct entity from its legal identity. While this theory has been strongly advocated by SPL chief executive, Neil Doncaster, by necessity, if you claim the football benefits of being ‘Rangers’, specifically player registrations, you also inherit Rangers penalties.
Although Rangers clearly won their challenge to Lord Carloway’s 12-month ban on player registration at the Court of Session last month when Lord Glennie referred the matter back to the SFA Appellate Panel, as the full ramification of the decision became clear to Green, who then had an irrevocable contract to buy Rangers or its assets, he floated the idea that he might appeal.
The SFA, correctly, decided not to instruct the Appellate Panel until the 21 day period when an appeal can be raised, which elapses today, has passed, just in case Green tells Lord Glennie he’s got it all wrong.
All this has been terribly confusing, not to mention expensive, for Scottish football, but with yesterday’s news that Rangers have a prima facie case to answer for subverting Scottish football for over a decade, the obstacles before Green are clearly insurmountable. There is reason to believe we can quickly reach some clarity.
The SFA must, without delay, convene the Appellate Panel to consider Lord Glennie’s instructions and apply an appropriate penalty on the various legal and ethereal bodies which claim to be ‘Rangers’. If the Appellate Panel suspend or expel what is left of the football club from the SFA, as must surely be expected, all questions about fan pressure, morals and votes become moot.
In this case, history will record the folly of Green’s appeal to civil law as the act which finally killed off any chance of ‘Rangers’ surviving, conveniently letting the SPL off the hook, while Green would be obliged to dispose of the stadium for a modest return to those capable of forming a genuinely new football club at some point in the future.
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Is it right enough that Walt was on holiday in Nice?
…and was that because Chico Green told him to “get tae France”?
watching henkes last season with us… that team was relentless. they go on about a big side, but after not seeing this in years, they were power & pace and had a steely will to win… i still love big Bobos tackling, and big Varga didnt have score some goals. :)
Tim Malone Will Tell on 19 June, 2012 at 14:50 said:
In Murray’s vineyard if rumours are to be believed.
boondock saint on 19 June, 2012 at 14:07 said:
Very sorry to hear of your dad’s passing. I didnt know him but new him by sight at Mass at St Ignatius. I was at school with your brother and remember you as a kid at St Aidan’s.
Thoughts and prayers are with you and yours.
Starryhope
Walter was in Nice in amorous pursuit of Jo Lumley. Needless to say he was rebuffed with the ferocity you would expect of a daughter of the Gurkha Rifles.
I hope Charlie Green has his security beefed up now,the vermin hordes wont be able to handle much more of this :>
The most telling thing about Walter Nosurname’s statement is the last bit:
“We wish the new Rangers Football Club every good fortune.”
New as in newco as in new team, new company, new start.
Oldco is dead and they’d better start getting used to it.
because of the corruption that is the governing bodies its quite possible that
the myth has been informed of the record that there is no hope of them being
in the spl [i am allowed to dream]and its quite possible that since they have a
case to answer regarding dual contracts that they might just be banished for a few years, is it coincidence that charges are forth coming and he walks?
Starry
I stay not far from the Cosy Corner. When I moved to this end of Hamilton I went in there a few times thinking it was a good place for a quiet pint.
Then I went in one Saturday afternoon only to be met by the local Orange band returning to their lair :-))
Sean McBride from earlier on previous thread.
So sorry to hear the sad news.
Deepest condolences to you and your family
YNWA
I’m beginning to feel sorry for Charles Green. Do you think he wakes up in the morning and feels sick at the thought of the mess he’s got himself into?
or is he still thinking along property development lines?
“We wish the NEW Rangers Football Club every good fortune.”
Even the Loyal Cardigan has acknowledged it.
H/tim -as you know on here you’re judged by the company you keep ;/)
THE EXILED TIM,PETEC
You have mail-personally,I would delete it before you read it!
Have any of the creditors been paid ANYTHING from the 5.5M that Green invested? Or is only D&P who have been paid?
And what exactly are BDO doing on behalf of the taxman?
“We wish the new Rangers Football Club every good fortune.” – Walter Smith.
He ALMOST got it right. There is a new Rangers company. But it isn’t a football club as yet.
Surely the question for Chuck Green and the prophets at the SPL meeting on july 4th would simply be
“Do you have a team /squad registered to play?”
Chuck..”Er no”
SPL …”Goodbye”
Newhuns wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rangers_Football_Club_Ltd
If the huns were in any doubt that should clarify a few things!
HH
hamiltontim on 19 June, 2012 at 14:57 said:
You only need to do that once!!
I haven’t been out anywhere in Hamilton for years and years, I always head to Glasgow, even at Celtic Park last year some old guy took exception to my flowing Sammi like locks ” hope yer no Sammi’s brother” was his quip, ” How no” says I
“cos ah canny stand him” saye he!!
After so long in Europe I’m a big softie, Hamilton is like the Wild West to me now!
By the time the new season kicks off, Sevco will be Squadra di Merda.
•-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on 19 June, 2012 at 14:57 said:
“I’m beginning to feel sorry for Charles Green. Do you think he wakes up in the morning and feels sick at the thought of the mess he’s got himself into?”
No.
He’s from Yorkshire.
‘You can always tell a Yorkshireman, but you can’t tell him much.’
‘Ibrox Stadium is a football stadium located on the south side of the River Clyde, on Edmiston Drive in the Ibrox district of Glasgow. It was the home ground of former Scottish Premier League club Rangers for 113 years from 1899 until 14 June 2012.’
boondock saint @ 14:07:
A fine tribute to your Dad, my condolences.
just when you thought it was getting quiet again lol
Who will be the first to say that Walter walking away will be like a new signing? :-)
Seriously though, I think Walt knows that Greeny is up against it and there will be an even rosier deal to be had before long. Time is on the cardigan’s side.
Boondock Saint: Condolences to you and the family.
Just skimming through to see what the news was about ‘no surname’ smith when I came across this – macky on 19 June, 2012 at 13:20 said:
What a load of complete nonsense
1) This IS THE BIGGEST story EVER in the history of scottish football and thanks to this site and guys like Phil, RTC, Paul McC and AT they are not getting away with it. They should be applauded. There is also still plenty talk of Celtic on this site and plenty other subjects too
2) SELL PLAYERS – ha ha ha ha We are not building a team to compete in scotland. We are building a young team to take on Europe again, of that I have no doubt. We are not interested in selling apart a young team that Neil is building…. yes A TEAM…. for the future.
Sure part of the strategy that involves buying and securing the talents of many of europe’s finest young players, will be to sell some of them on for a profit, when the deal suits Celtic. When these deals are done I am sure Neil Lennon will be as successful in finding replacements for them.
Remember this is not the end, the is just the beginning.
It is however the end for rangers formed in 1872/73.
HAIL HAIL
rant over
pyfinl
So who’s next on the Orcs Saviour Conveyer Belt, who will the MSM tell us is going to salve the pain and make it alright??
Graeme Souness come on down!!
The Blue Fairies Consortium fronted by ole curly locks himself…
Headtheball @ 15:10,:
”I think Walt knows that Greeny is up against it and there will be an even rosier deal to be had before long. Time is on the cardigan’s side.”
You could be right, Dave King alluded there was a £20M per annum short fall between outgoings/income.
By the time Mr Green is finished they may be very little overheads left.
He could use the time to get any little Fit & Proper test conundrum Fixed
Starry plough
Souness is lying low Alex “tommo” Thomson is wanting a word with him about EBT involvment :))))))))))))
Adam on 19 June, 2012 at 12:11 said:
Someone please give me a simple answer to my friend, not a Rangers or Celtic supporter, as to why Rangers should be punished, in his words “why punish the fans, it wasn’t their fault, it was people in management”
It’s the club that is being punished primarily for their proven wrong doing Adam, rather than the fans. Yes, they will suffer in the fallout. It’s the same if I am jailed for criminality my family also suffers despite not being culpable.
That’s the way it is. I’m sure your friend can understand that.
larsson7:
its an opinion, fear, call it what u like about us selling players…
when newco move to div 3.
will all our players wish to stay with us ??
will we sell players as we will walk the league ??
i agree about our model of buying young players to sell for profit.
BUT that isnt the point.
my opinion is that we will sell. league is priority. and europe is a bonus which is only factored in financially when we auto qualify :)
Bit of levity on a tedious Tuesday afternoon.
What’s your favourite single sentence or phrase arising out of the whole Rangers saga?
My own two have come in the last 24 hours
Yesterday – “club 12”
Today though its this from Walter Smith’s statement
“We wish the new Rangers Football Club every good fortune.”
Peter Lawwell would be garrotted if he’d said that.
Over to CQN land – knock yourselves out…
alex thomson@alextomo
@lisboninthesun I am looking for Souness now
traditionalist88 on 19 June, 2012 at 15:05 said:
That’s brilliant, and I hope it doesn’t get deleted simply because of a horde of ranging orcs complaining about it.
The only way to avoid ‘punishing’ the fans of any team would be to ensure that every game finished in a draw.
And clearly whenever any ‘punishment is being considered in any human activity what is looked for is some sign of contrition on behalf of the guilty party, for which credit can be given.
So far in this long weary tale of woe there has been absolutely no contrition shown by them.
#1 lesson in life- actions have consequences.
leftclicktic on 19 June, 2012 at 15:21 said:
I read that, there’s no chance of him sticking his head above the parapet I am really wondering how the MSM are going to spin this now, they have no saviours left which is of course the logical conclusion if you are always waiting on a guy on a big white horse to save you!
I kinda miss the MBB and I am sure he still has a few classics to come out with..
“We don’t do walking away” must be the quote of the century …
alex thomson @alextomo
So – after all the claptrap about ‘saviours’, ‘heroes’, ‘legends’ and ‘Rangers people’ – Walter Smith walks away. Surprised? No.
Go Thommo