You can imagine the anticipation Celtic players as they arrived for training this morning for Saturday’s visit to Firhill. They must be bursting a gut, just desperate to get onto the field and do their stuff. You and I have seen lots of this team, but right now, today, they will have an edge that’s been missing for so long. They have questions to answer, points to prove and a league title to win.
Firhill will be their stage. If anyone at Lennoxtown is in doubt about the job required, I still have my boots, just let me at them.
It’s indicative of where we are that those two draws (Hamilton and Dundee) plunged us into a form crisis. Since the turn of the year we’ve won 9 out of 13 games, failing to win twice with 10 men, once away to our nearest challengers, and that awful Dundee game at Celtic Park. Were it not for the two red cards, I expect the dip in form would be scarcely noticeable.
Over the same period Aberdeen have had a far easier programme, playing only 9 games (in 9 weeks). They’ve won six of these games, including the last two, which has put a more respectable look on their form. It’s still not any better than Celtic’s, though.
We’re still playing fixture catch-up, as we’ve six games in the next five weeks, to Aberdeen’s four, but that’s the price of reaching the latter stages of cup competitions.
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Twitter alive with Res 12,Lawwell and Co better wake up and get the finger out. Time to light a fire under them. They will be emptied just like the Kelly’s and the Whites.
Macjay
You are normally the voice of reason.
But on this I feel you are so out of touch as the Celtic board regarding how the support feels. At least you have an excuse being on the other side of the planet.
HH.
petec
With sponsors & so many ill informed around the UK, I can’t see anything other than a sell-out at Hampdump. The test will be season ticket sales & how many turn up for home games next season.
I suspect there will be many more empty seats.
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 10th March 2016 9:35 am
So.
All the wee guys in the playground are up in arms.
See thon heidy . See me. I hate thon heidy.
He`s pure rubbish ,so he is.
See me.
See ma school.I pure love my school.
Grow up for god`s sake.
There is an alternatve.
Sod off and give us peace.
But please do so without further antagonising real Celtic supporters ,the raison d`etre of this blog.
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You are generalising there, care to be specific?
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on 10th March 2016 9:09 am
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Hail Hail fella, hope yer well.
Aye,….the three dafties :)))
They all laffed at Christopher Columbus, when he said the world was round but……..well, ye know the rest :)
HH
MACJAY1
I don`t quite understand your point.
JJ
Outrageous that Lawell will blatantly ignore the corruption.
Should be chased.
Half-wit of a man.
Greedy, Greedy, Reptile.
PL, you make me sick.
My thoughts are with Mountblow Tim today.
Weeminger,
Hopefully it won’t come to that, just get them to do their job, that is our intention, if they can’t/won’t, that’s the time to use the rules.
” regarding how the support feels”
I do not think CQN is a barometer of how t` the support` feels.
With excellent exceptions, our supporters are just as easily led as anyone else.
JJ
KEVJ
Hail Hail fellow fortune teller
They like being cheated.
Thats why they never listened.
Hypnotized by the PLC.
Too Late Now.
HH
JJ
Morning , hope you’re well. Re a petition , ( I wouldn’t have a clue as to how to create an online one anyway), it’d be impossible for me given my location and travel to organise one offline.
I’m in Scotland tomorrow for the first time since Christmas for 2 days and that’ll be me for a couple months. I will certainly drive any number of miles in the next few days though to add 5 names and season book numbers to any petition raised.
Re have I told Celtic? Not yet, only just seen the news, but rest assured, I will. In fact I’ve got to visit CP on Saturday on personal business and will hand deliver it.
Ellboy on 10th March 2016 9:41 am
petec
With sponsors & so many ill informed around the UK, I can’t see anything other than a sell-out at Hampdump. The test will be season ticket sales & how many turn up for home games next season.
I suspect there will be many more empty seats.
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No No No….
Canamalar is telling you plainly that it is the SFA.
Now this game isn’t on BBC Scotland, totally untrustworthy anyway.
This game is the real moment if Broadhooves is going to be proven correct. Sad, so very sad that reprehensible scum like that are sticking 2 fingers up at the whole of Scottish Fitba – the corrupt little weasal that he is.
This is the Celtic Supports Last Chance to Just Say No.
Sky will broadcast this to a Massive audience.
Think about it.
Delirium-Silence
Shut up Hampden.
Jungle Jim,
Do you really think that it is only CQN that are unhappy?
CQN is not a barometer of the support, agreed. But this issue is bigger than only CQN. On this issue CQN is not in isolation.
HH.
What frightens me is when, apparently ‘learned’ bampots come on and express ‘surprise’ at the reluctance of Celtic PLC to get into the ring and fight for Celtic justice.
Ah mean, the cleverest types of clogs going around, being ‘surprised’ at being duped by a PLC board who are, no more than a side show to the real-guru…Lawwell.
Ye see, DD izny give a flying duck about Celtic.
That’s why he ‘planted’ Lawwell into the club…..to ransack it!!!!!
That’s what MO’N was trying to tell us all those years ago….only a handful took heed.
The ‘learned’ bampots being surprised is as sickening as, the club being surprised by the LNS shambles.
But……..but, this could be a blessing in disguise……
This level of PLC duplicity, sanctioning the cheating of Celtic’s supporters by their legendary, look the other way tactics….could and should see these swivel-eyed-serpents chased out of town.
Anything less and….Celtic would be as well dying…tonight….rater than torture the long suffrin supporters by a slow death at the hands of the cheating-deid-huns.
So, is this the beginning ?
Or, is this the beginning of the end ?
That board of vipers should be starved out.
They have blatantly sold us out to the Huns.
Sickening
Canamalar
I understand that with the effort you guys have put in you wish to see this through with a positive outcome.
But our PLC should not be forced to act on this. they should have acted without the need to be prompted for the point you guys highlighted that the SFA lied to them. And lets face it, they were at the time more than happy to take that shower of cheats at their word without proper investigation. With the resources and legal teams they have at hand their actions are absolutely disgusting and at odds with everything that our club has ever stood for. How foolish does Mr Quinn’s “Without FEAR or FAVOUR” statement look now?
MWD
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on 10th March 2016 9:46 am
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I don’t want to see Celtic supporters going through any suffering – we’ve been through loads ourselves to know what, or how deep that can cut.
The defining point for me….of, modern version of Celtic was, the ‘shame-game’ where, Neil Lennon was thrown to the rabid-hun-dogs and, Paul McBride QC and, Lawwell tried to stitch-up the Green Brigade with their over enthusiastic part in setting up the OBA thingy.
The divisions among the Celtic support was laid bare.
Rebels replaced by….snobs.
So sad.
HH
Keep Hampden empty and fill Celtic Park to get the 5.
Sounds good to me.
PRAECEPTA on 10TH MARCH 2016 8:43 AM
BT
You might want to read this article – compare and contrast?
How much are your suits paid?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3484616/How-suits-paid-Sportsmail-reveals-earning-chiefs-Premier-League-club.html
You up for Celts For Change ll big guy?
I’ve always understood why the board wouldn’t publicly state what was happening behind the scenes regarding Resolution 12.
However, I cannot fathom why they wouldn’t inform shareholders.
I think the board are hoping that shareholders do the work so they have plausible deniability when the ****storm kicks off.
Risible.
On a positive side.
Is it possible that this could be the focal point that can unite and galvanise the Greater Celtic support ?
HH.
As one of the folk on here last night expressing my anger at the developments outlined by BRTH just after 10pm, can I now say that we should calm down a little.
Things need to be explained and I am now sure that they will.
Let’s see what the day brings.
We may need to look at a more radical approach if we are going to get anywhere. Might be looking for a lorry load of online volunteers.
MWD,
Foolish enough for someone else to have said them :)
But since this started, there has only ever been one goal, and I had to stop a fellow resolutionary trying to widen the scope at our first meeting with the club, get the inquest into the SFA opened and then we can deal with what comes to light, after that goal has been achieved.
This was never going to be a clean or easy process and there was alway going to be fallout but keep focusing on the goal and at least you’ve not been distracted and gave it your best effort.
Many still think this is an old firm issue, I need to keep reminding people including resolutionaries it’s all about the SFA, please don’t give anyone the chance to confuse the issue, it’s always been about bringing an end to corrupt governance.
Good Morning,
I received an e-mail last night from someone who had read my post re Res 12 and having read it they asked if I was very angry at the stance of the board on the question of UEFA etc.
Let me be very clear on that question:
Yesterday’s post and the ones previous to it were not written as a result of anger or frustration at all – although both those emotions may well be justifiable in the eyes of some.
The post was placed after consultation with others who had sought clarification of the current position from Celtic Park.
Res 12 was supported and undertaken to ensure and reassure shareholders and fans that the executive board of Celtic PLC were aware of salient facts and were asking questions about the conduct of the football authorities.
I am happy to reiterate that Celtic had indeed asked questions about the UEFA licensing procedures followed. However, they had not focused on certain aspects of the procedure nor on certain detailed facts and information which are at the very centre the need for further enquiry.
On being properly appraised, the Celtic board saw exactly why there was a need for enquiry and encouraged further information gathering and engaged with the SFA to talk about the issues raised and the facts and circumstances concerned.
When it came to putting matters in writing, the board, perhaps justifiably at the time, had certain legal reservations about formally intimating certain documentation and so formally introducing the content of the documentation into the already ongoing discussions.
The administrative and legal way round that was to have the shareholders initimate the issues and the documentation which was done through solicitors.
As mentioned previously, this then resulted in the SFA saying officially that they would discuss this matter with the “member club” and the member club alone.
Quite clearly, the SFA will not answer, or attempt not to answer, any direct enquiry ( on this topic at least and possibly any other topic ) or be held to account by the ordinary Scottish Football fan or the ordinary shareholder or investor in a football club — unless they are a director and write on club notepaper.
Presumably, they would not answer any private enquiry from the likes of Dermot Desmond or Peter Lawwell etc or any other shareholder in any other football club.
However, that aside, it was by this method that the shareholders, with the consent and co-operation of the board of Celtic PLC got a full set of questions and enquiries before the Corporate Compliance officer of the SFA.
From that moment onwards — the purposes and aims of Res 12 had been largely fulfilled because full and detailed enquiry was made, seen to be made, made through solicitors, acknowledged by the SFA and responded to.
There could be no doubt about what was asked, when it was asked, who was asked and who acknowledged receipt of the enquiries.
There could also be no doubt about the reply.
The SFA are not accountable to shareholders on an individual basis but they undertook to address the issues with the member club.
Now, let’s pause there.
First, I do not believe that the SFA are only accountable to their member club, and I think that individual shareholders in a “member club” – however that may be defined — should have a right of enquiry and, if necessary, redress against an administrative body which is meant to regulate the trade and business affairs of the company in which the shareholders hold shares.
That is a legal question which may be visited later and on a wider platform.
Secondly, the undoubted state of play is that there is written communication from the SFA which says that they will address the matters raised with Celtic PLC.
Forget whether this is right or wrong, good administration or bad, the fact remains that as a result of the Res 12 process and the formal intimation of the issues by shareholders, The SFA have stated they will take these matters up with Celtic.
In other words, Celtic PLc have the ball – they have skin in the game – and they can press the SFA for further explanation and answers to the detailed questions asked as a result of the Resolution process.
A representative of the board advised and opined to the shareholders “The SFA have the info, they have the documentation, doing nothing with it is not an option as it cannot be ignored!”
They have also advised the SFA that they are accountable to the shareholders and that these questions will not go away.
So far so good you would think.
However, in the last few months …..nothing, nada, zilch and big fat zero in terms of a detailed response or any type of meaningful progress.
Yet some of the questions asked require no more than a simple yes or no answer.
With regard to UEFA, the issue of the time limit is always one which should make any legal team nervous. Don’t miss a time limit — make sure you are inside it and don’t allow a good case — even a reasonable case — to fail because you didn’t ask the question or raise the action in time.
Given the reaction of the SFA to the enquiries ( they don’t answer to football fans ) it is reasonable to presume you might just get the same response from UEFA — thanks for your enquiry, but we only deal with the clubs.
Well, the one way to avoid that, is for the club itself to write to UEFA. The previous legal issues have been resolved by the SFA acknowledging receipt of the documentation and saying they will deal with the club. It is a UEFA related matter so why not simply copy UEFA in and say by the way we are engaged in correspondence with the SFA re matters which involve your licensing system so you may want to note the position and ensure that this situation is registered with you and so on.
That way everything is kept tickety boo.
However, the club want shareholders to do that.
Now there are thousands of shareholders — many of them work at Kerrydale Street — they could just as easily do it themselves on plain paper – but …… for whatever reason they are asking the Res 12 shareholders to perform that function instead of the club.
That is just not right and does not make any business or legal sense.
So, that being the case, those who have been dealing with this and who have been involved in these discussions have a duty to report back to those who supported the original Resolution — and as the resolution was born on this forum it was decided that I should write up a summary and let people know where things stand and why the shareholders concerned think Celtic should be contacting UEFA.
For me, this is just a reporting job — pure and simple — here is where things stand, the upcoming issues that need addressed and an explanation as to who is addressing them at the moment — and if you like who isn’t.
It really is as simple as that.
I’m truly staggered that a supposedly intelligent group of businessmen and alleged Celtic supporters ( never quite sure that Bankier is mind) can be so stupid as to take no action whatsoever regarding blatant cheating by the SFA and the liquidated Rangers. After all their first statutory duty is to preserve shareholder value.
If BRTH’s accusation stands true – and I fully believe him – then by their inaction and craven cowardice this Board will empty the stadium way faster than anything Ronny and the players could. We will always support the team, no matter how badly they may be playing but the Board’s actions? No way. Totally unforgivable.
To think I was stupid enough to think they were “keeping their powder dry”
Totally disgusted by this, if true. I think there will be such supporter reaction that the Club may have to formally clarify their position. If they don’t we’ll all know the game is up and I for one will be finished.
KevJ
Sad indeed bud.
Shafted by Green Huns.
Thats not the Celtic i know.
I dont have much power in this world….but i will rejoice the day Celtic supporters chase these Huns from the Celtic board.
We have been taken over by Huns.
Thats about it.
Shameful.
HH
Twist and Turns
I stated over the weekend I will not be returning and that I was going to post my 4 season books back with a letter to PL and the PLC directors each cc’d in, after yesterdays post by BRTH and Canamalr’s follow ups as well as today’s confirmation that the PLC are acting to obfuscate a return of the Huns (in my view) I will now attend Celtic Park in person next Wednesday and hand my letter’s and my books back in. This letter will also request a reimbursement for the remainder of the season on a prorata basis (yeah I know I am laughing to).
MWD
The Celtic board were never going to push on with anything that would rock the boat. They are part of the self preservation society.
GREENPINATA on 10TH MARCH 2016 9:40 AM
Macjay
You are normally the voice of reason.
But on this I feel you are so out of touch as the Celtic board regarding how the support feels. At least you have an excuse being on the other side of the planet.
HH.
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How does the support feel?
How big is your sample ?
BTW the planet loves Celtic. From top to toe.
!!Bada Bing!!
Back then I was a Supporter and Rebel – these days the PLC class me as a bottom of the scale Customer (retired and with little disposable income = not their target audience/income stream).
Confined to the History Books!
Having slept on this (the Board’s Res 12-related ‘you’re on your own’ bombshell) …
It seems clear the Board is now (only after being asked a direct question by the ‘Res 12 Team’) admitting that its interest in this matter do not align with those of the rest of us (fans and shareholders).
It smacks of utter contempt for the Res 12 Team who have given massively of their time, shovelling and digging on behalf of us all (fans and shareholders – not least the Board).
It’s also hugely condescending: effectively saying, ‘Yeah: that’s a great idea, Bhoys. Good luck with that. And remember, we’re not right behind you.’
There’s either been a massive injustice or there hasn’t; the Board accepts that there has, thereby admitting that a fraud is likely to have been committed, to the sever detriment of the Club.
So it asks ordinary fans/shareholders to carry on giving of their own time and money to have a go at sorting it out?
Truly shocking …
VIP
Mountblow Tim
So sorry to read about the sad loss of your wife. May she rest in peace.
BRTH
Absolutely stunned after reading your post. Finally we have confirmation that the Board of Celtic Football Club are not willing to address any of the cheating and collusion that has taken place between Rangers FC, Sevco and the Scottish football authorities. Let’s not beat about the bush. Our Board members are a collection of yellow-bellied, spineless, gutless cowards. It is now clear that they have no interest in taking any steps whatsoever to protect the interests of Celtic Football Club and will do nothing even if HMRC ultimately triumph in the Big Tax Case after the appeal by BDO is heard.
I probably shouldn’t be but I’m shocked as I thought, like many others, that they were keeping their powder dry until them above matter was resolved before taking the necessary steps to deal with the cheating parties. Clearly they have no desire to do so.
I now find that I have a lot of thinking to do before parting with my money for a season ticket.
Sincere condolences to Mountblow on his sad loss.
Thanks to all for the good wishes yesterday.
Res12.
Saddened to read about the brick wall reached in the campaign.
I can’t say that I am surprised at the development, though.
Football authorities, from FIFA down through UEFA, to the SFA, have their rules to protect themselves.
They forbid and Association or club to challenge them or bring any action against them.
The SFA say that they will only deal through the club, but the club are prohibited from acting against the SFA,( unless the club is Sevco)… Catch 22.
Blatter and his cronies operated with impunity for years. It was only after the FBI took an interest in them that they became accountable.
That is how well they had protected themselves.
My faithful reader may recall my own position re the SFA.
I wanted a strong shareholder, with no official ties to the club, I was thinking of the litigious Denis O’Brian, to take an action against them.
However, Canamalar and his Merry Men took up the cause, admirably.
However,again, the SFA protection package seems to have thwarted them.
In hindsight, it may have been more successful to have gone down the legal route and taken them to court, if that was possible.
As it stands now, I would like Celtic to spell out why they felt that they couldn’t be proactive and why they left it up to the shareholders………even if just to disprove my theory.
It is all about the Money.
The Celtic Board reckon that Celtic and Rangers will make more money than Celtic alone.
Celtic I know is really different from Every other Club.
These are the Last Days so pandering to a hateful £. Nah.
Celtic is excelling because of sites like this helping Others all around the World.
The Gospel according to B.R.T.H. and the other guy.
False prophets?
I don`t know. Do you ?
What inside information do they have?
Let them specify or forever hold their peace.
Morning BRTH!
Having followed the Resolution 12 Saga for some time on the blog (and in discussion with CQNers) – I have to admit that I am extremely concerned that the process could be ‘timed-out’ by the intransigence of the CFC Board.
Can I ask you 2 questions?
If – as I have followed the ‘process’ – the CFC Board were (eventually) sympathetic to the Shareholders’ request and allowed (encouraged) their pursuit with the Authorities (SFA) – ergo it follows that ‘that pursuit’ should include taking this up with UEFA (they being the senior of the Authorities involved).
Q1: If there is no ‘vehicle’ available to the Shareholders to directly interface with UEFA Authorities – is this the type of ‘action’ that could be presented to CAS* based on a serious breach of Sporting/Financial Integrity?
Q2: Under the Companies Act 2006 (and amendments 2009) – can the Shareholders raise DERIVATIVE PROCEEDINGS** under the Act (given that (some) Officers of the Company have misled/ failed to act in the best interests of the Shareholders)?
Suplementary clarification:
* Does a breach of UK Legislation (financial) allow a case to be presented despite UEFA Rules?
** Interesting to note – our old friend (sic) Lord Glennie proffered a ruling on this type of action:
“…consider whether the Petitioner has disclosed a prima facie case on the merits…and also consider whether the petitioner has disclosed a prima facie case that those responsible for that act or omission are and remain in majority control, thus preventing institution of proceedings at the instance of the company.” (quote courtesy of Brodies).
Note: I’ve no legal background – merely looking at any means that would allow the Shareholders to circumvent the Board’s perceived apathy on this matter.
H!H!
Money talks, and unfortunately it’s the only language understood by a lot of people in senior positions in Scottish football.
I’ve just read Canamalar and BRTH’s most recent comments and if and when there’s a need for fans’ voices to be heard, that is the language to use.