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Fit & Proper test opens Pandora’s Box

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I hear the SFA had asked for clarification on Craig Whyte’s alleged disqualification as a director, without getting confirmation one way or another, since the issue was initially brought to their attention by the landmark BBC documentary, Rangers: The Inside Story.  Rangers disclosure to the Plus Exchange (where the club’s shares are traded) on Wednesday that this specific BBC allegation was correct, was the information the SFA needed before they were in a position to act and apply a Fit and Proper Person (FPP) test to Whyte.

Dramatic though it sounds, failing a FPP test, in itself, is only likely to cause superficial damage to a club or its owner.  An owner would need to resign as a director but he could allow the other directors to continue running the business, or he could appoint a proxy to take control of the business, which is often the way controllers run football clubs anyway.

What is of more interest, however, are matters likely to be disclosed as part of the SFA investigation.  The Association would require Mr Whyte to explain what he did to be barred from holding a directorship for seven years, something the BBC lawyers would be able to question Whyte on in the witness box, should he actually sue, instead of repeatedly threatening to do so.

Of most interest to the SFA will be Rangers financial submission for their Uefa licence, which enabled the club to be nominated as Scotland’s participants in this season’s Champions League.  A condition of participation in Uefa competitions is that no debts to tax authorities due on 31 December the preceding year remains unpaid on 31 March.

In September HM Revenue and Customs gained permission from the court to freeze £2.3m of Rangers money in connection with an unpaid tax bill.  The principle element of this bill has not been disputed by Rangers.  The SFA will now be keen to establish if any part of this bill was in connection to taxes due in prior to 31 December 2010.  If it was, Celtic were entitled to be Scotland’s Champions League representatives, when overcoming the likes of Malmo stood between them and a £15m pay-day.

This is a legal minefield for the SFA chief exec, Stewart Regan, who has my sympathy. Things are about to become interesting.

While we are on the subject of that £2.3m tax bill, HM Revenue and Customs are due to get their hands on the cash after Friday next week, the last day Rangers are able to dispute the debt. If Rangers enter administration prior to that date, the cash would revert to the administrator and the club’s secured creditors would be entitled to it.

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  1. X Man…..

     

     

    I’m guessing they’ll rapidly get to just “Motherwell-born capitalist” when describing the remarkable Whytey…..

     

     

    ;)

  2. The Battered Bunnet says:

     

    3 December, 2011 at 10:33

     

     

    Oh, and it appears as though Kev’s emotional investment in Celtic is off the radar.

     

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    There are now so many radars in the game these days that, to be off one is pretty good going! IMO!

     

     

    Hail! Hail!

  3. Kev

     

     

    Bolderdash. One is either a Tim or one isn’t. I have several friends who would give there eye teeth to be in your position but simply can’t afford to go.

     

     

    Take it down to brass tacks, It’s not financing a PLC, its going to watch Glasgow Celtic. Would you rather no tims at Ibrox, Pittodrie etc because our money is sustaining other clubs.

  4. Breaking gig news…

     

     

    The Scott Brown Conundrum back headlining the bill alongside The Samaras Enigma…

  5. The Battered Bunnet on

    Big Hail Hail to Tarrant:

     

     

    tarrant says:

     

     

    3 December, 2011 at 01:04

     

     

    Regarding the “Celtic-minded” allegations…like other posters, I have never heard a single supporter bemoan WGS’ religious leanings or possible pro- / anti-Celtic background.

     

     

    I do think it is more enlightening to look at the relationship the Celtic support formed with MON – I would say that MON’s Catholic Irish identity allowed some Celtic supporters to assume an identification with him (or more accurately, assume that he made an identification with “us”) that they couldn’t readily do with WGS.

     

     

    [And i woudl say, an assumption that needn;t have been made. Many supporters ignored at the time and ignore now the subtlety of MON’s quote on the day he was appointed. He never said he would crawl over broken glass to take the job. He said his father told him he should….http://www.whoateallthegoals.com/2011/01/so-what-now-for-martin-oneill.html ]

     

     

    However, all of this needs to be viewed in the context of each man’s appointment. MON had arrived to lead us from the darkness. WGS was taking over from a 5-year reign of a successful-beyond-expectation (and beyond budget) manager who was not leaving in disgraced failure.

     

     

    Look at other recent appointments – Tony Mowbray had played for us before, and was also a very enthusiastic attender of CSC functions, so there was the perception of the “Celtic Man” which could not be had of WGS. His appointment was not greeted with raptures. Nor, more pointedly, was Neil Lennon’s appointment, and could you find a more “Celtic man” than our current manager? Celtic supporters want success. The expectation of success is the main measure of reaction to a new managerial appointment, or to the signing of a new player. We’re not that different from the support of any other team in that regard.

     

     

    However, we are different from the support of most other teams in many regards, and I doubt there is any team in football in the world that wrestles with a notion of self-identity in the way that we do.

     

     

    The accusations levelled by Mags and other posters regarding the roots of the antipathy towards WGS, while unfounded in my opinion, do have resonance in the historic ongoing low-level, and occasionally loud-level argument about the identity of Celtic and of Celtic supporters.

     

     

    We are currently in a loud-level phase of this argument, because of the attempted legislation against “illicit” singing and actions taken against the Green Brigade. This is difficult for many Celtic supporters, because many Celtic supporters do not identify with the Irish Catholic history of the club. They recognise it and respect it, but their appreciation and support for Celtic perhaps does not come from family, or from a familial tradition. I’m Irish, but I live in Scotland, married a Scottish woman, am raising children who will learn about both their parents’ countries’ histories, and more besides. I don’t sing Flower of Scotland – I don’t identify. Similarly I don’t expect every Celtic fan to sing, or to want to sing, Fields of Athenry, or the Soldier’s Song (in English or in its Irish translation). I would however expect every Celtic supporter to sing and/or to idenitfy with Over and Over (“We are Celtic supporters, faithful through and through”), or to sing our version of “This Land is your Land”.

     

     

    Are you somehow “more” of a Celtic supporter if you are Irish, or of Irish descent, and/or Catholic, and/or West of Scotland, or Donegal, or Irish Republican…? I say no. I say this instead.

     

     

    We are Celtic. We welcome all. We are Brother Walfrid and Beram Kayal. We are Willie Maley, Wim Jansen, and Wee Gordon Strachan. We are James McMillan, James McGrory, and Jimmy Johnstone. We are Jock Stein, Johnny Doyle, John Thomson; Patsy Gallagher, Packy Bonner and Paddy McCourt. We are Fergus McCann and Daniel Fergus McGrain. We are the year in my CSC that we had Scotsmen, Shetlanders, Irishmen, Englishmen, Kashmiris, Arabs, a Welshman, a Norwegian and a Bulgarian. We are Kano, Ramie, p*ddy, NegAnon, Kojo, and all points in between. We are Giles Heron, Salim, John Kennaway, Jo Venglos, Morten Wieghorst, me, you.

     

     

    We are not sectarian. We are not exclusive. We are the greatest Club, and the greatest club, in the world. We areall the people.

  6. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!! Tick Tock !! on

    Kev……10.30……..are you finding it hard to accept that your not a Celtic SUPPORTER, but a Celtic FAN……..which is not normally a problem at all…….but you come on here criticising everything Celtic, and you don’t even have a season ticket…….LOL…!!!………..lost credibility all together, I’m afraid….

  7. Is it not true that Broonie has so far followed the Stili(y)an Petrov script religiously?

     

     

    Am saying nowt, just that he could have signed again thinking the club will get a decent fee should I decide to go…

     

     

    Or not, just saying like. Have no notion either way…

  8. Broony – – Looks like I’m in a minority of one (again!) but I am not happy about the new contract given to Broony, even worse if CELTIC paid off his parasite, oops, agent!

     

    Apart from plenty of gusto Broony gives us nothing. Can’t pass, can’t shoot, can’t dribble, can’t tackle properly, but looking from a positive perspective is should get the club a few bob in January when we sell him hopefully.

     

    Reckon we need some more guile in midfield, a bit of class, a thinker a (dare I say it ) LUBO or Paul Mcstay, even Marc Crosas.

     

    My opinion obviously

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    KINGLuBO

  9. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!! Tick Tock !! on

    Good man, Vhan………and let’s all ignore the media campaign / ‘agenda’………..all their efforts to save their favoured team have failed, and actually contributed to the downfall…..

  10. There’s an unmistakable quality about the posts from those who don’t support the Club but who are motivated to be on this Dear Green Place with malicious intent.

     

     

    Just what is their problem?

     

     

     

    The answer is as obvious as their bitter undermining agenda is clear.

  11. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Good Morning to the Celtic Family from a Sunny Central Scotland. Well im not often right but I was wrong again Broonie signed his new contract one thing it does do though is put to rest all the nonsense about Lennie having lost the dressing room.I am not a huge fan of Scots but at least he cant leave on the cheap now which is something.Todays game at poundland I expect to be an easy home win but as I said earlier Ive been wrong before heres hopeing.H.H.

  12. Sorry if this reveals my ignorance on the subject, but is there anything to stop a Celtic fan phoning Clyde, purporting to want to talk about their favoured subject, then saying what he or she wanted?

     

     

    I’m glad Brown signed, and put me down as a Gordon Strachan fan too.

  13. 67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!! Tick Tock !! says:

     

    3 December, 2011 at 10:40

     

     

    Kev……10.30……..are you finding it hard to accept that your not a Celtic SUPPORTER, but a Celtic FAN……..which is not normally a problem at all…….but you come on here criticising everything Celtic, and you don’t even have a season ticket…….LOL…!!!………..lost credibility all together, I’m afraid….

     

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    How much money does one have to put into Celtic FC before they are qualified to post on CQN ?

     

     

    McCann’s capitalist ideals have bitten deep it seems ?

  14. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!! Tick Tock !! on

    Kev…….your now moving into ‘erse’ territory, I’m afraid

  15. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    67 Heaven On your remarks about Kev having no credibilty at all because he doesnt have a season ticket mean that all our overseas fans have no credibilty? that looks like what your saying.H.H.

  16. CQN Coupon update –

     

     

    Estadio Nacional – Everton

     

    Lennybhoy – Southampton

     

    Greenlion2 – Leeds United

     

    The Token Tim – Shrewsbury Town

     

    Jobo Baldie – Kilmarnock

     

    Awalkacrosstherooftops – Charlton Athletic

     

    Blantyre Tim – Tottenham Hotspur

     

     

    Just PF Ayr’s pick to come then?

     

     

    Jobo

  17. \o/£

     

     

    ^The New Broonie

     

     

    The Skoosh contract is a strange one for me. By the start of next season, he’s (almost) got a clean slate, in that what he has cost up til that point, he was going to cost anyway, so come the new season and new contract, he’s really got pull it out of the hat to prove his worth on the new deal. Each week. He must also start doing this now, although I’m happy and willing to admit that his performances over the last 12 months are much closer to what we all hoped for when he initially signed. If he goes back to that ‘every second touch is a tackle’ nonsense then get rid. ASAP.

     

     

    Time to step up to the plate Scott :-)

  18. 67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!! Tick Tock !! says:

     

    3 December, 2011 at 10:52

     

     

    Kev…….your now moving into ‘erse’ territory, I’m afraid

     

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    You sound like a man of experience…..

  19. wee discussion between KevJungle and HamiltonTim

     

     

    I fall into the KevJungle camp – fully understand where he is coming from. I gave up my ST after 2009, and doubt very much whether I’ll be back while the present incumbent board members are so.

  20. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!! Tick Tock !! on

    Joe Filippis………some on CQN have an ‘agenda’……..some of the best Celtic fans I know don’t have season tickets, but they are fans, not Celtic bashers of the highest order, like oor Kev

  21. Joe Filippis Haircut says:

     

    3 December, 2011 at 10:52

     

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    The Celtic support of this day and age, seem to have this class-war thingy about them! IMO!

     

    Hail! Hail!

  22. Remember there will be some who won’t be happy that brown has signed but remember he had his sisters death to deal with

     

    and his ankle has been giving him problems so let’s just wait and see this could be the making of him.

  23. bankiebhoy1 @ 10 37.

     

     

    It would me much more accurate for him to be given the description —

     

     

    The Motherwell born Vulture Capitalist ..

     

     

    Pick the bones of the dying beast and beat it before the hyenas turn up.

  24. The Battered Bunnet says:

     

    3 December, 2011 at 10:40

     

    ‘Are you somehow “more” of a Celtic supporter if you are Irish, or of Irish descent, and/or Catholic, and/or West of Scotland, or Donegal, or Irish Republican…?’

     

     

     

    I think you’re more likely to have an intuative understanding of the heritage, traditions and ethos that make the Club unique and special.

  25. SOT…..

     

     

    I like it!

     

     

    It has a certain ring to it.

     

     

    I wonder why that thought hasn’t ‘resonated’ much with our fearless leader writers in the opinion-forming blatts.

     

     

    HH

  26. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    As far as I am concerned anyone can support Celtic and in my book that also makes them a fan.Now some fans are Lucky they can go through life going to home and away games and not missing a match.Others are not so lucky they may have to move away because of work or they may find a young family takes all there income only two of many reasons some fans cant get to watch there team.Now circumstances change and as we get older if we are lucky we can start watching the Bhoys again as our families leave home and we have a little disposable income.Now who is the better fan imo both groups support Celtic of course the ones who go weekly put there money in regularly the overseas fan may buy merchandise now and then both will hold a view on the team etc and both are entitled to there view now Paul67 does not need me to speak for him but im pretty sure he would welcome both groups to post on CQN. H.H.

  27. Was reading up on old Celtic articles on t’internet and came across this;

     

     

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/YOU%27LL+WALK+ALONE%3B+McCann%3A+Celtic+will+get+stronger+after+I%27m+gone.-a060987672

     

     

    One of the lines in the story is:

     

     

    ”Fergus saved Celtic from going into receivership at a time when the old board – the Insignificant Seven – had allowed the club to fall pounds 9m into debt”.

     

     

    Add another £40 on to that £9 for the Unspeakables. They’re hardly busting the doors down trying to shut them down. Makes you think that they dont like us.

     

     

    Just because we’re paranoid, don’t mean they’re not after us!!

  28. Am i the only person on here that thinks that our captain seems to spend most of his time running around like a heidless chicken trying to kick anybody that he thinks has looked at him the wrong way. When he first signed i had high hopes for him but he has only shown his true abilities in short spells and has been very inconsistent imho. I hope now with the re-signing he gets rejuvenated and can show us all what he is really capable of.

  29. 67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!! Tick Tock !! says:

     

    3 December, 2011 at 11:00

     

     

    Joe Filippis………some on CQN have an ‘agenda’……..some of the best Celtic fans I know don’t have season tickets, but they are fans, not Celtic bashers of the highest order, like oor Kev

     

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    I’m not a Celtic basher….I’m a board/CEO basher!

     

     

    The hoops on the field will be with me from, the cradle to the grave!

     

     

    I love the Cellic but, I have SERIOUS beef’s with the hierarchy!

     

     

    CQN is my main contact with Celtic these days but, WHAT a contact!

     

     

    Hail! Hail!